Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And so how does the SAVE act protect us from the proven cases of fraud like the one posted above? He would still have had his IDs when he voted illegally.
That is why you need to prove citizenship to register. That is what the SAVE Act is about.
You’re not answering the question. How does SAVE protect us from proven voter fraud like the below:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/georgia-republican-party-official-voted-illegally-nine-judge-rules-rcna145563
If you are saying this is your answer to voter fraud…why doesn’t it address voter fraud?
Anonymous wrote:And so how does the SAVE act protect us from the proven cases of fraud like the one posted above? He would still have had his IDs when he voted illegally.
That is why you need to prove citizenship to register. That is what the SAVE Act is about.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And so how does the SAVE act protect us from the proven cases of fraud like the one posted above? He would still have had his IDs when he voted illegally.
That is why you need to prove citizenship to register. That is what the SAVE Act is about.
Not true. If that were the case, then a REAL ID would be sufficient. But that isn't what the law says. Be honest.
Anonymous wrote:And so how does the SAVE act protect us from the proven cases of fraud like the one posted above? He would still have had his IDs when he voted illegally.
That is why you need to prove citizenship to register. That is what the SAVE Act is about.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And so how does the SAVE act protect us from the proven cases of fraud like the one posted above? He would still have had his IDs when he voted illegally.
That is why you need to prove citizenship to register. That is what the SAVE Act is about.
If they cared they would provide a free and easy way to do it prospectively, not retrospectively disenfranchise voters with poll tax hoops to jump through, all to “solve” a problem that doesn’t exist.
We know that this is about.
Anonymous wrote:And so how does the SAVE act protect us from the proven cases of fraud like the one posted above? He would still have had his IDs when he voted illegally.
That is why you need to prove citizenship to register. That is what the SAVE Act is about.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://electionfraud.heritage.org/
database of election fraud. Never happens?
No one said it never happens. They’re saying that it has never happened at all scale that would affect outcomes of any elections.
That database has 1,680 entries. From 1982 - 2025. That is hundreds of millions of votes. If we assume that all of these happened in one year (2024), that would still only be 0.00109%. In actuality, it is orders of magnitude smaller.
Crime is crime, so it's ok to ignore murderers and rapes as long as it's statisticly small and won't affect most people ? Wow
We don’t ignore murder and rape, but we also don’t systematically castrate all men even though it would prevent 95% of those crimes. The prevention would be worse than the harm, just like stripping massive numbers of U.S. citizens of their voting rights unless they pay extra money would be a disproportionate solution to the nonexistent harm that’s occurred from the illegal voting.
I hardly think that showing documents is the equivalent of castrating men. I also don't think the harm done is "nonexistent."
And, that data posted is only the fraud that was proven. There are far more cases than go to trial.
Fraud is hidden crimes. It is not like a burglary where you see the results.
And then....not proven in courts, so...not fraud.
But, there are enough to show fraud.
And so how does the SAVE act protect us from the proven cases of fraud like the one posted above? He would still have had his IDs when he voted illegally.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://electionfraud.heritage.org/
database of election fraud. Never happens?
No one said it never happens. They’re saying that it has never happened at all scale that would affect outcomes of any elections.
That database has 1,680 entries. From 1982 - 2025. That is hundreds of millions of votes. If we assume that all of these happened in one year (2024), that would still only be 0.00109%. In actuality, it is orders of magnitude smaller.
Crime is crime, so it's ok to ignore murderers and rapes as long as it's statisticly small and won't affect most people ? Wow
We don’t ignore murder and rape, but we also don’t systematically castrate all men even though it would prevent 95% of those crimes. The prevention would be worse than the harm, just like stripping massive numbers of U.S. citizens of their voting rights unless they pay extra money would be a disproportionate solution to the nonexistent harm that’s occurred from the illegal voting.
I hardly think that showing documents is the equivalent of castrating men. I also don't think the harm done is "nonexistent."
And, that data posted is only the fraud that was proven. There are far more cases than go to trial.
Fraud is hidden crimes. It is not like a burglary where you see the results.
And then....not proven in courts, so...not fraud.
But, there are enough to show fraud.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://electionfraud.heritage.org/
database of election fraud. Never happens?
No one said it never happens. They’re saying that it has never happened at all scale that would affect outcomes of any elections.
That database has 1,680 entries. From 1982 - 2025. That is hundreds of millions of votes. If we assume that all of these happened in one year (2024), that would still only be 0.00109%. In actuality, it is orders of magnitude smaller.
Crime is crime, so it's ok to ignore murderers and rapes as long as it's statisticly small and won't affect most people ? Wow
We don’t ignore murder and rape, but we also don’t systematically castrate all men even though it would prevent 95% of those crimes. The prevention would be worse than the harm, just like stripping massive numbers of U.S. citizens of their voting rights unless they pay extra money would be a disproportionate solution to the nonexistent harm that’s occurred from the illegal voting.
I hardly think that showing documents is the equivalent of castrating men. I also don't think the harm done is "nonexistent."
And, that data posted is only the fraud that was proven. There are far more cases than go to trial.
Fraud is hidden crimes. It is not like a burglary where you see the results.
And then....not proven in courts, so...not fraud.
But, there are enough to show fraud.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://electionfraud.heritage.org/
database of election fraud. Never happens?
No one said it never happens. They’re saying that it has never happened at all scale that would affect outcomes of any elections.
That database has 1,680 entries. From 1982 - 2025. That is hundreds of millions of votes. If we assume that all of these happened in one year (2024), that would still only be 0.00109%. In actuality, it is orders of magnitude smaller.
Crime is crime, so it's ok to ignore murderers and rapes as long as it's statisticly small and won't affect most people ? Wow
We don’t ignore murder and rape, but we also don’t systematically castrate all men even though it would prevent 95% of those crimes. The prevention would be worse than the harm, just like stripping massive numbers of U.S. citizens of their voting rights unless they pay extra money would be a disproportionate solution to the nonexistent harm that’s occurred from the illegal voting.
I hardly think that showing documents is the equivalent of castrating men. I also don't think the harm done is "nonexistent."
And, that data posted is only the fraud that was proven. There are far more cases than go to trial.
Fraud is hidden crimes. It is not like a burglary where you see the results.
And then....not proven in courts, so...not fraud.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://electionfraud.heritage.org/
database of election fraud. Never happens?
No one said it never happens. They’re saying that it has never happened at all scale that would affect outcomes of any elections.
That database has 1,680 entries. From 1982 - 2025. That is hundreds of millions of votes. If we assume that all of these happened in one year (2024), that would still only be 0.00109%. In actuality, it is orders of magnitude smaller.
Crime is crime, so it's ok to ignore murderers and rapes as long as it's statisticly small and won't affect most people ? Wow
We don’t ignore murder and rape, but we also don’t systematically castrate all men even though it would prevent 95% of those crimes. The prevention would be worse than the harm, just like stripping massive numbers of U.S. citizens of their voting rights unless they pay extra money would be a disproportionate solution to the nonexistent harm that’s occurred from the illegal voting.
I hardly think that showing documents is the equivalent of castrating men. I also don't think the harm done is "nonexistent."
And, that data posted is only the fraud that was proven. There are far more cases than go to trial.
Fraud is hidden crimes. It is not like a burglary where you see the results.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://electionfraud.heritage.org/
database of election fraud. Never happens?
No one said it never happens. They’re saying that it has never happened at all scale that would affect outcomes of any elections.
That database has 1,680 entries. From 1982 - 2025. That is hundreds of millions of votes. If we assume that all of these happened in one year (2024), that would still only be 0.00109%. In actuality, it is orders of magnitude smaller.
Crime is crime, so it's ok to ignore murderers and rapes as long as it's statisticly small and won't affect most people ? Wow
We don’t ignore murder and rape, but we also don’t systematically castrate all men even though it would prevent 95% of those crimes. The prevention would be worse than the harm, just like stripping massive numbers of U.S. citizens of their voting rights unless they pay extra money would be a disproportionate solution to the nonexistent harm that’s occurred from the illegal voting.
I hardly think that showing documents is the equivalent of castrating men. I also don't think the harm done is "nonexistent."
And, that data posted is only the fraud that was proven. There are far more cases than go to trial.
Fraud is hidden crimes. It is not like a burglary where you see the results.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://electionfraud.heritage.org/
database of election fraud. Never happens?
No one said it never happens. They’re saying that it has never happened at all scale that would affect outcomes of any elections.
That database has 1,680 entries. From 1982 - 2025. That is hundreds of millions of votes. If we assume that all of these happened in one year (2024), that would still only be 0.00109%. In actuality, it is orders of magnitude smaller.
Crime is crime, so it's ok to ignore murderers and rapes as long as it's statisticly small and won't affect most people ? Wow
We don’t ignore murder and rape, but we also don’t systematically castrate all men even though it would prevent 95% of those crimes. The prevention would be worse than the harm, just like stripping massive numbers of U.S. citizens of their voting rights unless they pay extra money would be a disproportionate solution to the nonexistent harm that’s occurred from the illegal voting.
I hardly think that showing documents is the equivalent of castrating men. I also don't think the harm done is "nonexistent."
And, that data posted is only the fraud that was proven. There are far more cases than go to trial.
Fraud is hidden crimes. It is not like a burglary where you see the results.