I'm still laughing so hard about the Theodore comment. Sounded like a bad romance novel.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear Tyler,

You seem like a fun guy! You’re clearly intelligent and have found much success in your personal and professional lives.

I must ask, what are you doing with Jen? How do you truly feel about her? What messages are you trying to send? Jen is so free with her public displays of adoration for you. Yet in return, she gets nothing from you. Nothing public at least. The inequity is so glaring that it almost feels like these are cries for help from Jen. I never want to egregiously accuse a Black man of abusing a White woman (RIP Emmitt Till and so many others) but this is worrisome!

You have re-released your book, a grand occasion for celebration! So where is your grand gratitude for Jen? You know the woman who put an entire paragraph of dedication to you in her best-selling cookbook even though you weren’t even around when she created it…

As a professional in her own right, Jen has been publicly and unquestionably instrumental in your recent successes. How she supports you privately, I am fairly certain is equally as intense.

Jennifer Hatmaker as your girlfriend and collaborator deserves more public praise and respect than you show. When men are blatantly and unashamedly disrespectful to their partners in public, this registers as a major red flag 🚩

Jen is not responsible for your successes but she has obviously been a major contributor to your recent successes. She loves you and you claim to love her. Why are you not jumping at every chance to lust in her, to sing her praises?

I do not write this because I idolize Jen, am friends with her or want Tyler to fail. I’d feel as disappointed and concerned if I saw this dynamic play out with any couple.

Peace xo

Did you also wax on about Theodore? Or are there several new wackos on this forum lately?! I mean, welcome. But wow.This is… a lot.

"RIP Emmitt Till"

WTAF. Show yourself out.

Anonymous wrote:Dear Tyler,

You seem like a fun guy! You’re clearly intelligent and have found much success in your personal and professional lives.

I must ask, what are you doing with Jen? How do you truly feel about her? What messages are you trying to send? Jen is so free with her public displays of adoration for you. Yet in return, she gets nothing from you. Nothing public at least. The inequity is so glaring that it almost feels like these are cries for help from Jen. I never want to egregiously accuse a Black man of abusing a White woman (RIP Emmitt Till and so many others) but this is worrisome!

You have re-released your book, a grand occasion for celebration! So where is your grand gratitude for Jen? You know the woman who put an entire paragraph of dedication to you in her best-selling cookbook even though you weren’t even around when she created it…

As a professional in her own right, Jen has been publicly and unquestionably instrumental in your recent successes. How she supports you privately, I am fairly certain is equally as intense.

Jennifer Hatmaker as your girlfriend and collaborator deserves more public praise and respect than you show. When men are blatantly and unashamedly disrespectful to their partners in public, this registers as a major red flag 🚩

Jen is not responsible for your successes but she has obviously been a major contributor to your recent successes. She loves you and you claim to love her. Why are you not jumping at every chance to lust in her, to sing her praises?

I do not write this because I idolize Jen, am friends with her or want Tyler to fail. I’d feel as disappointed and concerned if I saw this dynamic play out with any couple.

Peace xo

Did you also wax on about Theodore? Or are there several new wackos on this forum lately?! I mean, welcome. But wow.This is… a lot.

Anonymous wrote:Dear Tyler,

You seem like a fun guy! You’re clearly intelligent and have found much success in your personal and professional lives.

I must ask, what are you doing with Jen? How do you truly feel about her? What messages are you trying to send? Jen is so free with her public displays of adoration for you. Yet in return, she gets nothing from you. Nothing public at least. The inequity is so glaring that it almost feels like these are cries for help from Jen. I never want to egregiously accuse a Black man of abusing a White woman (RIP Emmitt Till and so many others) but this is worrisome!

You have re-released your book, a grand occasion for celebration! So where is your grand gratitude for Jen? You know the woman who put an entire paragraph of dedication to you in her best-selling cookbook even though you weren’t even around when she created it…

As a professional in her own right, Jen has been publicly and unquestionably instrumental in your recent successes. How she supports you privately, I am fairly certain is equally as intense.

Jennifer Hatmaker as your girlfriend and collaborator deserves more public praise and respect than you show. When men are blatantly and unashamedly disrespectful to their partners in public, this registers as a major red flag 🚩

Jen is not responsible for your successes but she has obviously been a major contributor to your recent successes. She loves you and you claim to love her. Why are you not jumping at every chance to lust in her, to sing her praises?

I do not write this because I idolize Jen, am friends with her or want Tyler to fail. I’d feel as disappointed and concerned if I saw this dynamic play out with any couple.

Peace xo

Not a Tyler fan, but he is smart to keep his personal life private.

Dear Tyler,

You seem like a fun guy! You’re clearly intelligent and have found much success in your personal and professional lives.

I must ask, what are you doing with Jen? How do you truly feel about her? What messages are you trying to send? Jen is so free with her public displays of adoration for you. Yet in return, she gets nothing from you. Nothing public at least. The inequity is so glaring that it almost feels like these are cries for help from Jen. I never want to egregiously accuse a Black man of abusing a White woman (RIP Emmitt Till and so many others) but this is worrisome!

You have re-released your book, a grand occasion for celebration! So where is your grand gratitude for Jen? You know the woman who put an entire paragraph of dedication to you in her best-selling cookbook even though you weren’t even around when she created it…

As a professional in her own right, Jen has been publicly and unquestionably instrumental in your recent successes. How she supports you privately, I am fairly certain is equally as intense.

Jennifer Hatmaker as your girlfriend and collaborator deserves more public praise and respect than you show. When men are blatantly and unashamedly disrespectful to their partners in public, this registers as a major red flag 🚩

Jen is not responsible for your successes but she has obviously been a major contributor to your recent successes. She loves you and you claim to love her. Why are you not jumping at every chance to lust in her, to sing her praises?

I do not write this because I idolize Jen, am friends with her or want Tyler to fail. I’d feel as disappointed and concerned if I saw this dynamic play out with any couple.

Peace xo

Big sass put up a stupid video, he's SO full of himself. even that wing back chair he sits in for those overly dramatic (not funny or cute) videos he makes is so over the top.

Jen's livelihood, sadly, is her online "brand", which has been a couple of different things over the past decade or so.

In 2023 it seems to be all over the map. She has no real, solid, grounded point of view. She's not a Bible teacher anymore, that's for sure. She's not a life and family HDTV influencer anymore. That was always an awkward fit anyway and she's not married anymore with an disinterested boyfriend who lives out of state and her kids are largely grown. She's not really a teacher as she's not an expert on anything so she always has to bring in the real experts for content. She's not a champion of combating excess as she's super materialistic and she throws out literal trailers of junk once a year.

Now days throw everything out there and see what sticks, then double down on what sticks until it's dead then pivot to something new. It feels like it's just all about maximizing her income and maintaining relevance at all costs.

Anonymous wrote:where does all the 3 years of no sex come from? Where was that ever disclosed?

Interview with Brandon with the Healing Center. Part 1.

where does all the 3 years of no sex come from? Where was that ever disclosed?

Anonymous wrote: I came relatively late to her book/podcast world. And, even though I’m a decade older, I still found wisdom and humor in her work. I found her to be authentic and as a fellow “3” I identified with her. The problem I have with the current Jen is that, after years of revealing everything, and using those revelations to help herself and her audience learn and grow, she now doesn’t reveal the most important event in her life. It feels like a betrayal. It feels dishonest. I’m sure there is a voyeuristic element to wanting to know “what happened.” But, there also is a genuine sense that after marketing her self as super real, she is now …. not. And we don’t know what the “not” is.

Interesting. I had a different reaction.

When everything came crashing down, we learned she didn't reveal everything. That the story we had been fed was illusory and filled with lies. That their "perfect" marriage was in real life marked by angst, emotional distance and lack of sex for 3 years.

Her brand was built on this illusion. Not only has she lost the core of her brand, she's lost credibility. Her followers can't trust her because everything they believed to be true turned out to be a marketing campaign. Combine that with going through a painful divorce and it now feels like she's just flailing around to figure out what might stick instead. While I can't imagine how hard this must be and wouldn't wish on anyone the pain of a public divorce, it highlights how troubling being a social influencer is and the false adulation that's tied up in many of those personalities. She needs to heal in private...trying to keep up the charade of I-have-it-all-together-and-you-can-too-for-only-$69 is just more of the phony folly. And most of her former followers now know it.

I don't think she owes us details about her divorce. There's multiple lives wrapped up in that (Brandon's, her children) and it's not her place to disclose things that could infringe on other's privacy, so I respect that.

She had a niche that her brand was built upon. Now that that niche has disintegrated (messy bun Christian family leader), she's desperately searching for a new one. I'm not sure she sees how adrift she comes across. What she probably needs is to get off social media for a long time to reflect, heal and reset. The conundrum is that her income is tied to social media, so the painful charade continues. The perils of being an Influencer.

Can you even believe this old pic with the brunette color? Looks 10000000x better and fresher. I get that she's actually 8 years younger but man does it make a difference.

I'm a brunette so I understand the struggle of gray roots but she's simply subbed brown brassy roots for the gray so it's still high maintenance.

If she doesn't want to be as dark as this, she can go bronde but even back in 2018 when she was closer to a bronde, her stylist is still picking too orange and brassy.

https://www.instagram.com/p/x2nZw9S9pp/

There's no such thing as 'dry-ish' January. She seems drunk in the video making the mocktails and her whole thing is that it has no alcohol but that's just subbed for cbd oil to still give a literal buzz? That's not the intention of mocktails or dry anything. She's such a fool. And all that lip smacking with her fat tongue. Gross.

I know, i know don’t-talk-about-appearance, its shallow and yada yada yada, yup you are right but here i go, sorry - big sis is an attractive person but that hair color keeps getting lighter and lighter and it looks like absolute TRASH on her

I’ll admit- I enjoy lurking here and getting the tea. I know them both from afar- went to their church for several years a long time ago. Never was close to them. But, I saw the smugness and the “we’re better than you” attitude they gave off to those of us who were not in the inner circle. She’s off the deepend- everyone knows it. He’s a douche with his big truck and “hard” persona— dude couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag. But—perhaps we should just quit giving this thing oxygen and let them flame out for good. They’ll likely be better for it. We may never know the true story, that is ok. As much as I want to drag them through the streets, they are just folks. He got caught. He self medicated. She is way over the top and not quite the girl she wants us all to think she is. Let the charade die.

Anonymous wrote: I came relatively late to her book/podcast world. And, even though I’m a decade older, I still found wisdom and humor in her work. I found her to be authentic and as a fellow “3” I identified with her. The problem I have with the current Jen is that, after years of revealing everything, and using those revelations to help herself and her audience learn and grow, she now doesn’t reveal the most important event in her life. It feels like a betrayal. It feels dishonest. I’m sure there is a voyeuristic element to wanting to know “what happened.” But, there also is a genuine sense that after marketing her self as super real, she is now …. not. And we don’t know what the “not” is. I would have rather she said (or says): “We are divorced. I may talk about it at some point. But, I’ve got a lot of work to do. And, I have kids. I can’t talk about me yet. And I won’t talk about my kids’ dad right now. Our family needs to process and heal and that will take a long time. So, we will go on with other things.” And she could still do good work and earn a living. But, these shadows, this hinting and teasing about the big, terrible thing that nearly destroyed her but not being honest about that terrible thing and at the same time wanting us to watch and learn as she recovers and moves on from it…. feels odd. It diminishes her and, as evidenced by the hundreds, if not thousands, of comments here, her brand.

You’ve absolutely nailed it. I personally think she’s out of sorts because Brandon’s behavior was much worse than we know, and she doesn’t know how to talk about it but also wants to make it clear it was him. And that’s fine, but you can still be real that divorce sucks, you’re still healing, etc.