Anonymous
08/21/2021 14:00
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You really don’t understand elections. Fine, don’t vote for her again but the recall was a political effort with no basis that was designed to keep up division and anger.
And will create more backlash/division that works against you. Any moderate Democrat who might have been frustrated by some of the SB policies has been now been made aware of how awful (and short-sighted) the opposition is.
Tholen is unpopular in Dranesville now for so many reasons that it really doesn't matter that the recall petition failed. She is politically toxic and the local Democrats who had her back out of a sense of blind party loyalty don't seem to realize how much they are diluting their brand in the process.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 13:50
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:You really don’t understand elections. Fine, don’t vote for her again but the recall was a political effort with no basis that was designed to keep up division and anger.
And will create more backlash/division that works against you. Any moderate Democrat who might have been frustrated by some of the SB policies has been now been made aware of how awful (and short-sighted) the opposition is.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 13:45
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
You really don’t understand elections. Fine, don’t vote for her again but the recall was a political effort with no basis that was designed to keep up division and anger.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 13:43
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Open Fcps are such whiny losers.
Very mature - dont be a bully.
You all have been 'bullying' Tholen for a year. You can't take a day of legal celebrations in your opponent's favor?
We've been asking her to do her job; she didnt so we organized and brought her to court - and what happened yesterday was one Dem bailing out another Dem.
She did her job. You jist didn’t agree with her decisions. That doesn’t mean she should be recalled. A bunch of very entitled people tried this stunt and lost.
DP, but there are a lot of people in her district who don't agree with Tholen's decisions, whether it was her decisions about keeping schools closed, extending Brabrand's contract for a year, going along with TJ admissions changes that reduce the number of Dranesville students getting into TJHSST, or adjusting school boundaries to favor wealthy Langley.
I guess local Democratic activistscan keep calling everyone in Tholen's district who feels let down "entitled," but it doesn't position them very well for the next election.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 13:37
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Open Fcps are such whiny losers.
Very mature - dont be a bully.
You all have been 'bullying' Tholen for a year. You can't take a day of legal celebrations in your opponent's favor?
We've been asking her to do her job; she didnt so we organized and brought her to court - and what happened yesterday was one Dem bailing out another Dem.
Oh please. The judge who tossed your baseless recall out of court is the former General Counsel for the NRA.
Presumably the hands of the judge - who had refused to grant a prior motion to quash the proceeding - were largely tied when the Democratic prosecutor refused to present the case.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 13:36
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Open Fcps are such whiny losers.
Very mature - dont be a bully.
You all have been 'bullying' Tholen for a year. You can't take a day of legal celebrations in your opponent's favor?
We've been asking her to do her job; she didnt so we organized and brought her to court - and what happened yesterday was one Dem bailing out another Dem.
She did her job. You jist didn’t agree with her decisions. That doesn’t mean she should be recalled. A bunch of very entitled people tried this stunt and lost.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 13:34
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"We are very pleased that the Court dismissed this case and saw it for what it was – an attempt by a small number of people to substitute their judgment for that of the full elected School Board," said a FCPS spokesperson.
Yeah was complete BS. Pat Hynes was the worst school board member I’ve seen and there was no case to remove her. Let Elaine do her job.
We tried to let elaine do her job - she failed at every turn. Failed worse than others. 5000 people (at least) agree.
elaine - now that we have your attention, we are coming for you in the election. Please announce soon that you will not seek re-election.
5000 out of 1.16 million. Whoop de woo.
Wow - ok how about 5000 people in Dranesville District. total population 116,000. Assuming 2/3rds are adults/registered voters gets us to around 38,000. Assuming 50% voter turnout gets us to 19,000.
Now how does the 5,000 signatures look?
whoop de woo indeed.
elaine is in big trouble in 2023. Hopefully she won't run at all. If she does, she will lose.
I know quite a few people in Dranesville who didn't think the recall petition would succeed and didn't bother signing (and were right), but will vote for anyone but Tholen if she runs again. Many are people who voted for her before.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 13:27
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Open Fcps are such whiny losers.
Very mature - dont be a bully.
You all have been 'bullying' Tholen for a year. You can't take a day of legal celebrations in your opponent's favor?
We've been asking her to do her job; she didnt so we organized and brought her to court - and what happened yesterday was one Dem bailing out another Dem.
Oh please. The judge who tossed your baseless recall out of court is the former General Counsel for the NRA.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 13:24
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"In this case, a small group of people unhappy about Covid restrictions tried to use the law to substitute their opinion for a unanimous consensus of the Fairfax County School Board," said Tholen in response to the petition dismissal. "I was happy to hear the special prosecutor tell the judge that the case was about a policy disagreement, and that the recall process is not a vehicle to resolve such disputes with elected officials and governing bodies. That is why we have elections."
So you silly 5000 people who are just upset about covid - get out of elaine's way as she is putting this behind her and focusing on in-person learning.
So the recall group now has a mailing list with over 5000 names of people who wanted Tholen removed, whereas Tholen probably has a few dozen core supporters consisting mostly of current and former School Board members and local Democratic Party officials?
Come 2023 it may turn out to have been a case of winning a battle but losing the war.
You remind me of the Trump supporters yelling about his packed stadiums in a pandemic while Biden had 6 people at a town hall. Guess who won?
There are over 185,000 students in FCPS which means you pitiful 5,000 signatures (assuming all are legitimate) is nothing.
Dont be a bully. 5000 was enough to get her into a court room and send a message that she has and continues to fail in her job. Dont be so offended that some dont like the job she is doing - just accept it and we'll talk more in 2023.
Maybe you should have told yourself the same thing in 2020. We told you a recall wouldn't work and you were stuck with the board members you just voted in on December 12th, 2019. Too bad. Could have saved yourself a lot of ridiculous vitriol.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 13:20
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"We are very pleased that the Court dismissed this case and saw it for what it was – an attempt by a small number of people to substitute their judgment for that of the full elected School Board," said a FCPS spokesperson.
Yeah was complete BS. Pat Hynes was the worst school board member I’ve seen and there was no case to remove her. Let Elaine do her job.
We tried to let elaine do her job - she failed at every turn. Failed worse than others. 5000 people (at least) agree.
elaine - now that we have your attention, we are coming for you in the election. Please announce soon that you will not seek re-election.
5000 out of 1.16 million. Whoop de woo.
Wow - ok how about 5000 people in Dranesville District. total population 116,000. Assuming 2/3rds are adults/registered voters gets us to around 38,000. Assuming 50% voter turnout gets us to 19,000.
Now how does the 5,000 signatures look?
whoop de woo indeed.
elaine is in big trouble in 2023. Hopefully she won't run at all. If she does, she will lose.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 12:59
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Open Fcps are such whiny losers.
Very mature - dont be a bully.
You all have been 'bullying' Tholen for a year. You can't take a day of legal celebrations in your opponent's favor?
We've been asking her to do her job; she didnt so we organized and brought her to court - and what happened yesterday was one Dem bailing out another Dem.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 12:58
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"In this case, a small group of people unhappy about Covid restrictions tried to use the law to substitute their opinion for a unanimous consensus of the Fairfax County School Board," said Tholen in response to the petition dismissal. "I was happy to hear the special prosecutor tell the judge that the case was about a policy disagreement, and that the recall process is not a vehicle to resolve such disputes with elected officials and governing bodies. That is why we have elections."
So you silly 5000 people who are just upset about covid - get out of elaine's way as she is putting this behind her and focusing on in-person learning.
So the recall group now has a mailing list with over 5000 names of people who wanted Tholen removed, whereas Tholen probably has a few dozen core supporters consisting mostly of current and former School Board members and local Democratic Party officials?
Come 2023 it may turn out to have been a case of winning a battle but losing the war.
You remind me of the Trump supporters yelling about his packed stadiums in a pandemic while Biden had 6 people at a town hall. Guess who won?
There are over 185,000 students in FCPS which means you pitiful 5,000 signatures (assuming all are legitimate) is nothing.
Dont be a bully. 5000 was enough to get her into a court room and send a message that she has and continues to fail in her job. Dont be so offended that some dont like the job she is doing - just accept it and we'll talk more in 2023.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 12:28
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"We are very pleased that the Court dismissed this case and saw it for what it was – an attempt by a small number of people to substitute their judgment for that of the full elected School Board," said a FCPS spokesperson.
Yeah was complete BS. Pat Hynes was the worst school board member I’ve seen and there was no case to remove her. Let Elaine do her job.
We tried to let elaine do her job - she failed at every turn. Failed worse than others. 5000 people (at least) agree.
elaine - now that we have your attention, we are coming for you in the election. Please announce soon that you will not seek re-election.
5000 out of 1.16 million. Whoop de woo.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 11:48
Subject: Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Open Fcps are such whiny losers.
Very mature - dont be a bully.
You all have been 'bullying' Tholen for a year. You can't take a day of legal celebrations in your opponent's favor?
Anonymous
08/21/2021 11:47
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"In this case, a small group of people unhappy about Covid restrictions tried to use the law to substitute their opinion for a unanimous consensus of the Fairfax County School Board," said Tholen in response to the petition dismissal. "I was happy to hear the special prosecutor tell the judge that the case was about a policy disagreement, and that the recall process is not a vehicle to resolve such disputes with elected officials and governing bodies. That is why we have elections."
So you silly 5000 people who are just upset about covid - get out of elaine's way as she is putting this behind her and focusing on in-person learning.
So the recall group now has a mailing list with over 5000 names of people who wanted Tholen removed, whereas Tholen probably has a few dozen core supporters consisting mostly of current and former School Board members and local Democratic Party officials?
Come 2023 it may turn out to have been a case of winning a battle but losing the war.
You remind me of the Trump supporters yelling about his packed stadiums in a pandemic while Biden had 6 people at a town hall. Guess who won?
There are over 185,000 students in FCPS which means you pitiful 5,000 signatures (assuming all are legitimate) is nothing.