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Anonymous wrote:There are many literary reference to the abstemious nature of food culture in the British Isles including distrust of rich food, strict portion control, not expressing too much enjoyment of food, not askiing for or offering additional food. In my Irish-American family, I was trained never to ask for food and to always leave a small amount of the food (no matter how small the portion) on my plate out of politeness. It was wild to eat with Italian or Jewish friends and constantly be offered more, expected to eat a large amount, and expected to say how good the food was.

That’s an interesting observation. Growing up in Toronto in the 80’s (before its food culture became more cosmopolitan), restaurants were all indoors, with no patio eating, and they all had dark windows
so you couldn’t see what was going on inside. For some reason, being seen eating was considered slightly shameful.

I think it goes back to the more austere Protestant culture that used to be dominant in the northern US and Canada. Definitely a different take on communal dining compared to white ethnic, black, Hispanic, Asian etc. cultures.

Wow. The observation about Toronto in the ‘80s is fascinating. We have a summer place in Ontario that I’ve been going to since I was a child in the 70s and never heard this, though we rarely eat out, as it’s more rural. This background is why I think the idea of a cabin share in the forest sounds appealing. For the life of me though, I can’t understand why a person like OP doesn’t go eat breakfast with her small family in the forest where no ravening teens can intrude and place any demands on her.

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Anonymous wrote:How is this thread still going on???

LOL I was thinking the same thing but then I saw OP refer to the kid as "Lardass" and that explained everything

Anonymous wrote:How is this thread still going on???

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Wow. 38 pages.

We came back from the trip. I have to say that most of our travel companions were normal.

The problem is really just one kid, a 13 year old boy. He's just a greedy little a**hole. He ate all the other family's cookies, drunk all their sodas and didn't want to eat what his mother cooked him, but he wanted our food for EVERY meal.

The same problem we had with him last time. His mom doesn't tell him no.

Everyone else acted normal and everyone shared the extras they had.

When you start calling other people's kids greedy a'holes it's clear that group travel is not for you, or group travel in this crazy way is not for you.

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Anonymous wrote:I have read every page of this thread (I was the one indicating that it had potential). How did we get to racism?
1. I don't want to cook a lot/extra
2. That's WASP? In xyz culture we cook tons.

Is that how we got here? There are also WASP families that cook tons. And don't drink like fish!

Can we get back to solutions?
How about packing a case of candy bars and when kids ask for your breakfast just give them a candy bar. Candy > breakfast food to all kids, their parents aren't helping, and it's easily packed.

But then YOUR kids will want candy too. Dilemma....

You're the exact reason I got sucked down this rabbit hole and I thank you.

The most ridiculous thing in this thread was the WASP saying everything and anything to discredit anyone who claimed anything negative about WASPS (I'm a WASP -- gain some perspective and some self awareness "other WASP", the pp's are absolutely right!).

How can you even compare "fighting over the check" & "we usually bring hired help in to cook anyway" with other nationalities more welcoming "the more the merrier" or "there's always a seat at our table" type of viewpoint?

You can't.

One is warm and welcoming and the other is cold and distant. There were many times in my childhood where I would be envious of my Italian or Jewish friends whose families were so very welcoming during holidays.
Yes, our parents may grab the check first, but our homes were never the place friends felt comfortable hanging out over (and that went for all of my WASP friends). There was always something underneath the surface that you could tell wasn't being discussed -- swept under the rug per se for appearances.

The fact that this "other WASP" tried repeatedly to use isolation from social situations as an insult is hysterical and ridiculous, and it just proves everyone else's point and she doesn't even realize it... because she's the literal poster girl (lacking in self awareness).

Oh, the irony.

Sorry to digress PP, I just had to get it out of my system.

OMG the wasp basher with some deep childhood trauma from the WSP side of her family is back 😆

No, I’m that WASP, and this new WASP isn’t me.

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Anonymous wrote:If all the kids want bacon and eggs (and who wouldn’t if the alternative was oatmeal) the parents should take turns cooking for everyone. So maybe OP has to cook for 10 people one day; is that so bad if the next 2 days you get to chill on the deck with your coffee?

This is what rational people do in a multi-family vacation house. That's the beauty about having more adults around. It's kind of weird to have every family making their own meals separately. So much pointless duplication of effort.

+1

Yeah, but when you get stuck with selfish people in one house, and one family that has a different work ethic, guess what leeches do?

I’d suggest that if you think some of your friends are “leeches”, you should probably look for new friends.

I bet that that other people from OP’s rental house have a very different take on what breakfast is like there.

OP here. Yes, the other people were perfectly fine. In fact, part of Lardass's family was also fine. It's just Lardass who didn't want what his mom cooked and demolished everyone else's supplies. Kind of the same thing happened the last time. His mom enables this behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:If all the kids want bacon and eggs (and who wouldn’t if the alternative was oatmeal) the parents should take turns cooking for everyone. So maybe OP has to cook for 10 people one day; is that so bad if the next 2 days you get to chill on the deck with your coffee?

This is what rational people do in a multi-family vacation house. That's the beauty about having more adults around. It's kind of weird to have every family making their own meals separately. So much pointless duplication of effort.

+1

Yeah, but when you get stuck with selfish people in one house, and one family that has a different work ethic, guess what leeches do?

I’d suggest that if you think some of your friends are “leeches”, you should probably look for new friends.

I bet that that other people from OP’s rental house have a very different take on what breakfast is like there.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have read every page of this thread (I was the one indicating that it had potential). How did we get to racism?
1. I don't want to cook a lot/extra
2. That's WASP? In xyz culture we cook tons.

Is that how we got here? There are also WASP families that cook tons. And don't drink like fish!

Can we get back to solutions?
How about packing a case of candy bars and when kids ask for your breakfast just give them a candy bar. Candy > breakfast food to all kids, their parents aren't helping, and it's easily packed.

But then YOUR kids will want candy too. Dilemma....

You're the exact reason I got sucked down this rabbit hole and I thank you.

The most ridiculous thing in this thread was the WASP saying everything and anything to discredit anyone who claimed anything negative about WASPS (I'm a WASP -- gain some perspective and some self awareness "other WASP", the pp's are absolutely right!).

How can you even compare "fighting over the check" & "we usually bring hired help in to cook anyway" with other nationalities more welcoming "the more the merrier" or "there's always a seat at our table" type of viewpoint?

You can't.

One is warm and welcoming and the other is cold and distant. There were many times in my childhood where I would be envious of my Italian or Jewish friends whose families were so very welcoming during holidays.
Yes, our parents may grab the check first, but our homes were never the place friends felt comfortable hanging out over (and that went for all of my WASP friends). There was always something underneath the surface that you could tell wasn't being discussed -- swept under the rug per se for appearances.

The fact that this "other WASP" tried repeatedly to use isolation from social situations as an insult is hysterical and ridiculous, and it just proves everyone else's point and she doesn't even realize it... because she's the literal poster girl (lacking in self awareness).

Oh, the irony.

Sorry to digress PP, I just had to get it out of my system.

OMG the wasp basher with some deep childhood trauma from the WSP side of her family is back 😆

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Anonymous wrote:DP- she's venting. Better she do it here than directly at the kid when the mom is seriously the problem.

Anyone remember the thread where the 20 year old son brought the friend, and said friend ate all the cookies, ordered the most expensive things, and used allllll the sunblock in one selfish squeeze? I loved that thread and that OP.

Some kids do ACT like a-holes. Always a good reason why.

I had actually thought of that thread more than once as I followed this one that doesn't seem to die. Wonder if that kid ever got invited anywhere again, and if he is still enjoying his seashells.

Anonymous wrote:You're already planning to share covid -- bring extra Trix.