Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 08:48     Subject: Cohen Testifying

To the 29 Theses poster. It was pointed out that Democrats can walk and chew gum at the same time. Or, in this case, grill Cohen and pass the first substantive gun control legislation in a couple decades. On the same day.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 08:45     Subject: Re:Cohen Testifying

Interesting take on Cohen's testimony by Nixon's former personal lawyer:

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/watergate-master-manipulator-spots-republicans-100853055.html

Former Nixon White House Counsel John Dean tells CNN's @DonLemon that during Michael Cohen's testimony the Republican members of the House Oversight Committee "didn't defend the President. What they did is attack the witness. That shows a certain weakness"

Like Cohen, Dean was a member of the president’s inner circle. He also turned on his onetime boss and cooperated with prosecutors.

Republicans questioning Cohen “had nothing to offer in defense of the president’s character,” Dean said.

Last year, he noted another similarity between himself and Cohen.

“When I became a witness, there was a huge effort to discredit me,” Dean said at the time. “It was just my word against Nixon’s until the tape came out, and they worked mightily to try to discredit me.”



All of this sounds so familiar.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 08:45     Subject: Re:Cohen Testifying

Anonymous wrote:Distract distract distract... this is all the left has and Potus paying his private attorney while in office isnt illegal.


You are either really stupid, or really deflecting. Which is it?
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 08:45     Subject: Re:Cohen Testifying

I adamantly feel that Dems would better serve and gain support by grinding to address the nation's issues. Leave the hyper vigilance of crimes to Mueller. What's It's almost over, no matter the outcome. Here are key takeaways that seem to be getting most of the attention. Cohen dropped crumbs for those in charge to follow.

1. "I am ashamed because I know what Mr. Trump is. He is a racist. He is a conman. He is a cheat."

2. "He was a presidential candidate who knew that Roger Stone was talking with Julian Assange about a WikiLeaks drop of Democratic National Committee emails."

3. "A copy of a check Mr. Trump wrote from his personal bank account -- after he became president -- to reimburse me for the hush money payments I made to cover up his affair with an adult film star and prevent damage to his campaign."

4. "Mr. Trump did not directly tell me to lie to Congress. That's not how he operates."

5. "There were at least a half-dozen times between the Iowa Caucus in January 2016 and the end of June when he would ask me 'How's it going in Russia?' -- referring to the Moscow Tower project."

6. "Trump knew of and directed the Trump Moscow negotiations throughout the campaign and lied about it. He lied about it because he never expected to win the election. He also lied about it because he stood to make hundreds of millions of dollars on the Moscow real estate project."

7. "Mr. Trump would often say, this campaign was going to be the 'greatest infomercial in political history.'"

8. "Mr. Stone told Mr. Trump that he had just gotten off the phone with Julian Assange and that Mr. Assange told Mr. Stone that, within a couple of days, there would be a massive dump of emails that would damage Hillary Clinton's campaign. Mr. Trump responded by stating to the effect of 'wouldn't that be great.'

9. "He once asked me if I could name a country run by a black person that wasn't a 'shithole.' This was when Barack Obama was President of the United States."

10. "He told me that black people would never vote for him because they were too stupid."

11. "He asked me to pay off an adult film star with whom he had an affair, and to lie to his wife about it, which I did."

12. "This $35,000 check was one of 11 check installments that was paid throughout the year -- while he was President. The President of the United States thus wrote a personal check for the payment of hush money as part of a criminal scheme to violate campaign finance laws." note, Cohen said he preferred to be paid in full but installments wouldn't raise red flags, they would be viewed as retainer fees. I may be wrong but remember he also stated that these payments (or others) were made from the foundation fund[b]

13. "I'm talking about a man who declares himself brilliant but directed me to threaten his high school, his colleges, and the College Board to never release his grades or SAT scores."[b]yet points to Trump hypocrisy re his own transparency vs demanding it from Obama, Hillary etc

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14. "He finished the conversation with the following comment. 'You think I'm stupid, I wasn't going to Vietnam.'

15. "Questions have been raised about whether I know of direct evidence that Mr. Trump or his campaign colluded with Russia. I do not."passive defer to Mueller

16. "Don Jr. came into the room and walked behind his father's desk -- which in itself was unusual. People didn't just walk behind Mr. Trump's desk to talk to him. I recalled Don Jr. leaning over to his father and speaking in a low voice, which I could clearly hear, and saying: 'The meeting is all set.' I remember Mr. Trump saying, 'OK good...let me know.'"

17. "I have never asked for, nor would I accept, a pardon from President Trump."

18. "I did not want to go to the White House. I was offered jobs."

19. "[Stone] frequently reached out to Mr. Trump and Mr. Trump was very happy to take his calls. It was -- free service."

20. "Mr. Trump's desire to win would have him work with anyone."

21. "Everything was done with the knowledge of, and at the direction of, Mr. Trump."

22. "It wasn't our responsibility to be the fact checker for a news agency."

23. "They want to know what I know about Mr. Trump ... and not one question has been asked about Mr. Trump."

24. "I have no reason to believe that tape exists."see #27

25. "He speaks in a code. And I understand the code because I've been around him for a decade."[/b]this explains #4 and even the dumbest of criminals would never say, hey I need you to lie to congress[/b]

26. "I have never been to Prague."visited daughter in Europe

27. "I don't believe Mr. Trump ever struck Mrs. Trump, ever."regarding what he believes was a bogus tape of Trump striking first lady in elevator

28. "What he didn't want was to have an entire group of thinks tanks run through his tax return ... and then he'll end up in an audit and eventually have taxable consequences."AOC asked direct questions on alleged tax fraud

29. "I fear that if he loses the presidential election in 2020, there will never be a peaceful transition of power."
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 08:44     Subject: Cohen Testifying

Anonymous wrote:
I believe most people, even supporters of the current administration, know the President to be an unsavory, prejudiced bully who has probably operated his entire life evading taxes and using threats to get what he wants professionally and privately.

Is any of it going to oust him from the Presidency or cause him grief afterward? Maybe not.
A. None of it may rise to crimes committed by the President himself.
B. None of it may be impeachable. Sadly, the President's party is still convinced it needs to support him to get elected.

We just have to face this reality and move on.





Note that the only person actually defending Trump at the hearing was Cohen. Who insisted Trump doesn’t beat his wife. Kind of a low bar, but Republicans are in a race to the bottom. Everyone else attacked Cohen, who was a Trumps only defender. I certainly didnt hear anyone say— Trump is honest. Trump would collude with a foreign power. Trump’s combined M+V SATs were above 1000. Trump is a liar, and cheat, a con man, or a fraud.

I guess Meadows tried to day he wasn’t a racist.

Trump is indefensible. The GOP Congress has stopped trying.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 08:40     Subject: Cohen Testifying

Anonymous wrote:
I believe most people, even supporters of the current administration, know the President to be an unsavory, prejudiced bully who has probably operated his entire life evading taxes and using threats to get what he wants professionally and privately.

Is any of it going to oust him from the Presidency or cause him grief afterward? Maybe not.
A. None of it may rise to crimes committed by the President himself.
B. None of it may be impeachable. Sadly, the President's party is still convinced it needs to support him to get elected.

We just have to face this reality and move on.





Nah. I think we’ll let AG, Special Counsel, and district investigations conclude first. But thanks for the clearly sincere pathos.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 08:39     Subject: Cohen Testifying

Anonymous wrote:
I believe most people, even supporters of the current administration, know the President to be an unsavory, prejudiced bully who has probably operated his entire life evading taxes and using threats to get what he wants professionally and privately.

Is any of it going to oust him from the Presidency or cause him grief afterward? Maybe not.
A. None of it may rise to crimes committed by the President himself.
B. None of it may be impeachable. Sadly, the President's party is still convinced it needs to support him to get elected.

We just have to face this reality and move on.




Yes, this has been true since the early days of his administration. The only thing saving us from his dictatorship is his own incompetence. Hopefully he will remain incompetent until he leaves office.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 08:39     Subject: Cohen Testifying

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump is so f#cked.

So is the GOP.


The party tearing down women who have been sexually assaulted, elevating Beer Bong Brett, using POC as props, snarking about young lawmakers, denying climate change is real, making student loans harder to get, being retrogressive on social issues and now starting to alienate even men with a college education?

Yep. A shrinking base seems like a losing strategy.

I don’t really care. Do you?
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 08:34     Subject: Re:Cohen Testifying

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Anonymous wrote:Just a reminder -
Michael Cohen never went to Prague.


Love how you believe the parts of his testimony that serve your narrative.


Kind of blows the whole dossier narrative, eh?


No, that means that one detail in the dossier might be wrong.


Which makes a lot more of it wrong.

Maybe, maybe not. It is raw intelligence. It's what spies send in from the field before the analysts in Washington assess it, verify it, and form a narrative. Which is what Mueller is doing right now.


See...and that is a problem.
The information in the dossier was used in a FISA warrant request, or several of them. When making such a request, those who sign are saying the information is true and verified. But, you can see it wasn't.
And, it is not Mueller's job to do that..... it should have been done long ago.
Now you are starting to understand why this whole Russian investigation should have never been opened.


Sounds like you don’t want the truth exposed. What are you afraid of?


The truth?
The truth is that this whole RUSSIA investigation was opened for one reason. And, it wasn't because the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia.
There were a few people in leadership positions who were upset at the outcome of the election.

I expect the leadership of the FBI to know the law and follow the law. Is that too much to ask?


And I expect the “president” to know and follow the law.

I guess we are both having bad weeks.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 08:32     Subject: Re:Cohen Testifying

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Anonymous wrote:Can we get back to analyzing Farah - the curling iron lady???


Haha yes I'm the OP of Farrah. Anyone know who she is? She was over the top in first half testimony...laughing, nodding, crying.


Dena Grayson, twitter personality extraordinare and former Congressional candidate.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DrDenaGrayson


Thank you DCUM friend. Tragicomedy


Da nada. Someone in my twitter feed retweets her every move. And boy was she excited to get a spot on camera behind Cohen yesterday.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 08:27     Subject: Re:Cohen Testifying

Distract distract distract... this is all the left has and Potus paying his private attorney while in office isnt illegal.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 08:27     Subject: Cohen Testifying


I believe most people, even supporters of the current administration, know the President to be an unsavory, prejudiced bully who has probably operated his entire life evading taxes and using threats to get what he wants professionally and privately.

Is any of it going to oust him from the Presidency or cause him grief afterward? Maybe not.
A. None of it may rise to crimes committed by the President himself.
B. None of it may be impeachable. Sadly, the President's party is still convinced it needs to support him to get elected.

We just have to face this reality and move on.



Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 08:16     Subject: Cohen Testifying

The man produced a cancelled check signed by Trump from the Oval Office for hush money. I mean, that is a smoking gun right there.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 08:07     Subject: Cohen Testifying

Anonymous wrote:Trump is so f#cked.

So is the GOP.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2019 08:06     Subject: Cohen Testifying

Trump is so f#cked.