Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 11:02     Subject: Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s the reasoning for trying them as adults instead of as juveniles?


The State's attorney said that by law 1st degree rape is always transferred to adult/criminal court. The attorneys for the defendants can request a waiver to have it sent back to juvenile court.


The attorneys for the defendants HAVE requested a waiver to have it sent back to juvenile court.


That courtroom is going to be filled to the brim. Can’t wait for the names to be released.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 11:01     Subject: Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team
Brooms up the @$$?!?!?

Heads better roll and if any of them show up in MCPS ever again more heads will roll.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 10:59     Subject: Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s the reasoning for trying them as adults instead of as juveniles?


The State's attorney said that by law 1st degree rape is always transferred to adult/criminal court. The attorneys for the defendants can request a waiver to have it sent back to juvenile court.


The attorneys for the defendants HAVE requested a waiver to have it sent back to juvenile court.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 10:59     Subject: Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team
Anonymous wrote:Father of Damascus High School student. My son heard that two JV football players were hazed with a broom. I called the school and they told me they're working on a letter home.

Has anyone else heard about this?


Hit associates press and wapo article.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 10:58     Subject: Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team
Disgusting. Lock them up and their parents and guardians.

wTF values are they being taught? Is parental physical or sexual abuse at place?
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 10:57     Subject: Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

PP is correct. 15-year-olds are not adults. But that's not the point, since the charges are first-degree rape, and MD charges as adults for this crime.


Yes they are correct in that statement and I'm guessing that they are the poster that keeps rebutting with 'but they're not adults' despite the fact that's not really the argument here. They are being tried as adults, not because of their age, but because of the heinous act they committed and because it (first degree rape) carries a maximum punishment of up to life in prison. I think everyone knows that 15 year olds are 15 year olds. It does not bear repeating. It's tiresome.


The point is that 15-year-olds, not being adults, should not be charged as adults. And also should not be sentenced to life in prison.


It's Maryland law. If you don't like the law, advocate to change it.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 10:55     Subject: Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team
Anonymous wrote:What’s the reasoning for trying them as adults instead of as juveniles?


The State's attorney said that by law 1st degree rape is always transferred to adult/criminal court. The attorneys for the defendants can request a waiver to have it sent back to juvenile court.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 10:15     Subject: Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

PP is correct. 15-year-olds are not adults. But that's not the point, since the charges are first-degree rape, and MD charges as adults for this crime.


Yes they are correct in that statement and I'm guessing that they are the poster that keeps rebutting with 'but they're not adults' despite the fact that's not really the argument here. They are being tried as adults, not because of their age, but because of the heinous act they committed and because it (first degree rape) carries a maximum punishment of up to life in prison. I think everyone knows that 15 year olds are 15 year olds. It does not bear repeating. It's tiresome.


The point is that 15-year-olds, not being adults, should not be charged as adults. And also should not be sentenced to life in prison.


Now you know that is not how our judicial system works! Maybe it should, maybe not.

I don't think they will get life. If convicted, with not priors I think they are looking at 15-25 for the First degree Rape charge. I tried to do the math using what little information I could know and the Maryland sentencing guidelines from 11/1/2018.


Why would they get 15-25 years when the sentencing guidelines for raping girls is <3 years.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 10:15     Subject: Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

PP is correct. 15-year-olds are not adults. But that's not the point, since the charges are first-degree rape, and MD charges as adults for this crime.


Yes they are correct in that statement and I'm guessing that they are the poster that keeps rebutting with 'but they're not adults' despite the fact that's not really the argument here. They are being tried as adults, not because of their age, but because of the heinous act they committed and because it (first degree rape) carries a maximum punishment of up to life in prison. I think everyone knows that 15 year olds are 15 year olds. It does not bear repeating. It's tiresome.


The point is that 15-year-olds, not being adults, should not be charged as adults. And also should not be sentenced to life in prison.


It's going to the court of appeals this summer to determine if sentencing 15-year olds to life in prison is cruel and unusual.

I don't know though. All the adult men that rape students in MoCo schools get 18 months because lord forbid they go to the real prison.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 10:13     Subject: Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

PP is correct. 15-year-olds are not adults. But that's not the point, since the charges are first-degree rape, and MD charges as adults for this crime.


Yes they are correct in that statement and I'm guessing that they are the poster that keeps rebutting with 'but they're not adults' despite the fact that's not really the argument here. They are being tried as adults, not because of their age, but because of the heinous act they committed and because it (first degree rape) carries a maximum punishment of up to life in prison. I think everyone knows that 15 year olds are 15 year olds. It does not bear repeating. It's tiresome.


The point is that 15-year-olds, not being adults, should not be charged as adults. And also should not be sentenced to life in prison.


Now you know that is not how our judicial system works! Maybe it should, maybe not.

I don't think they will get life. If convicted, with not priors I think they are looking at 15-25 for the First degree Rape charge. I tried to do the math using what little information I could know and the Maryland sentencing guidelines from 11/1/2018.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 09:49     Subject: Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

PP is correct. 15-year-olds are not adults. But that's not the point, since the charges are first-degree rape, and MD charges as adults for this crime.


Yes they are correct in that statement and I'm guessing that they are the poster that keeps rebutting with 'but they're not adults' despite the fact that's not really the argument here. They are being tried as adults, not because of their age, but because of the heinous act they committed and because it (first degree rape) carries a maximum punishment of up to life in prison. I think everyone knows that 15 year olds are 15 year olds. It does not bear repeating. It's tiresome.


The point is that 15-year-olds, not being adults, should not be charged as adults. And also should not be sentenced to life in prison.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 09:41     Subject: Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team
Anonymous wrote:

PP is correct. 15-year-olds are not adults. But that's not the point, since the charges are first-degree rape, and MD charges as adults for this crime.


Yes they are correct in that statement and I'm guessing that they are the poster that keeps rebutting with 'but they're not adults' despite the fact that's not really the argument here. They are being tried as adults, not because of their age, but because of the heinous act they committed and because it (first degree rape) carries a maximum punishment of up to life in prison. I think everyone knows that 15 year olds are 15 year olds. It does not bear repeating. It's tiresome.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 09:39     Subject: Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

omg - enough with this bs!

NORMAL children do not RAPE other children. Again, too few of you dingdongs aren't placing yourself in the role of the victims' parents. How often must I ask this question? HOW forgiving would you be if your son had been sodomized with brooms by these vile young men?

Being 15 doesn't mean you're necessarily naive.


Correct. Being 15 does, however, mean that you're 15. And 15-year-olds are not adults.


Seems that we are questioning how the term "adults" as defined in court in the state of Maryland. Whether it's "right or wrong" to charge these kids as adults in this case is subjective. However the prosecutor is, and should, use the law fully to represent his/her clients wishes.


We are the prosecutor's clients. We, the people.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 09:38     Subject: Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

omg - enough with this bs!

NORMAL children do not RAPE other children. Again, too few of you dingdongs aren't placing yourself in the role of the victims' parents. How often must I ask this question? HOW forgiving would you be if your son had been sodomized with brooms by these vile young men?

Being 15 doesn't mean you're necessarily naive.


Correct. Being 15 does, however, mean that you're 15. And 15-year-olds are not adults.


Seems that we are questioning how the term "adults" as defined in court in the state of Maryland. Whether it's "right or wrong" to charge these kids as adults in this case is subjective. However the prosecutor is, and should, use the law fully to represent his/her clients wishes.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 09:26     Subject: Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

omg - enough with this bs!

NORMAL children do not RAPE other children. Again, too few of you dingdongs aren't placing yourself in the role of the victims' parents. How often must I ask this question? HOW forgiving would you be if your son had been sodomized with brooms by these vile young men?

Being 15 doesn't mean you're necessarily naive.


Correct. Being 15 does, however, mean that you're 15. And 15-year-olds are not adults.


I'm not sure if you have your head in the sand or up your ass.


PP is correct. 15-year-olds are not adults. But that's not the point, since the charges are first-degree rape, and MD charges as adults for this crime.