Anonymous
Post 09/28/2018 13:14     Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
i would never combine VA rankings and direct experience in any calculus of where the strong teams are that dictate shifts. DA is going to involve region I play so take a look at history and flights at Jeff Cup and head to head match ups and I see 2 ECNL clubs . . . . . and then everyone else. No dog in this fight either. Already went through this before, so good luck to all.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2018 12:56     Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do not use GotSoccer rankings.

I found 07 girls rankings for the board from the PP's website. Confirmed as follows:

Region I RANKINGS for 2007s at GDA/ECNL clubs in NoVA

8. Loudoun (ECNL)
26. McLean (ECNL)

102. Arlington (GDA)
110. BRYC (ECNL)
154. FCV (GDA)

N/A. W. Spirit (Great Falls not a substitute)





Link?


Please go to Youth Soccer Rankings website and search 2007 girls for Region I. Then read down the list of NoVA teams. Loudoun's B team is higher then Arlington and the rest.


I stated above that I got it. Thanks!
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2018 12:54     Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do not use GotSoccer rankings.

I found 07 girls rankings for the board from the PP's website. Confirmed as follows:

Region I RANKINGS for 2007s at GDA/ECNL clubs in NoVA

8. Loudoun (ECNL)
26. McLean (ECNL)

102. Arlington (GDA)
110. BRYC (ECNL)
154. FCV (GDA)

N/A. W. Spirit (Great Falls not a substitute)





Link?


Please go to Youth Soccer Rankings website and search 2007 girls for Region I. Then read down the list of NoVA teams. Loudoun's B team is higher then Arlington and the rest.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2018 12:54     Subject: Re:Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And BRYC is #7

The problem with using GotSoccer is it mostly only tracks tourneys and the carryover of points in the fall can be very misleading depending on a teams tournament schedule. This can inflate a clubs ranking or deflate.

Youth Soccer rankings tends to look at more info including league standings when available.


exactly

and that's why I did not use them and instead used the REGION I Youth Soccer rankings, a better indicator of how these teams play


Got it you used Region 1, I was using State.

The problem with comparing local teams based on Regional rankings is the case in point that your player pool is not in fact regional. Also, while Youthsoccerrankings does not suffer some of the problems that GotSoccer does it is still not a very good telescope but it is a better microscope.

When kids are older and the number of teams compress due to 11v11 etc then Regional and National rankings make more sense. But the affect a single loss in some tourneys finals has on the points of a ranking when there are well over a 1000 teams being ranked within a region can drop a team 50-60 points.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2018 12:51     Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Do not use GotSoccer rankings.

I found 07 girls rankings for the board from the PP's website. Confirmed as follows:

Region I RANKINGS for 2007s at GDA/ECNL clubs in NoVA

8. Loudoun (ECNL)
26. McLean (ECNL)

102. Arlington (GDA)
110. BRYC (ECNL)
154. FCV (GDA)

N/A. W. Spirit (Great Falls not a substitute)


Just FYI, Great Falls is a direct feeder for WS now. Their 13U group practices with the Spirit 13U group on occasion.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2018 12:51     Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Do not use GotSoccer rankings.

I found 07 girls rankings for the board from the PP's website. Confirmed as follows:

Region I RANKINGS for 2007s at GDA/ECNL clubs in NoVA

8. Loudoun (ECNL)
26. McLean (ECNL)

102. Arlington (GDA)
110. BRYC (ECNL)
154. FCV (GDA)

N/A. W. Spirit (Great Falls not a substitute)

Just FYI, Great Falls is a direct feeder for WS now. Their 13U group practices with the Spirit 13U group on occasion.



Anonymous
Post 09/28/2018 12:49     Subject: Re:Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Gunston is ranked 8th as well according to Got Soccer.

So two of WS affiliate/partner clubs are top ten quality teams and they border a top 5 team in McLean.

FCV is no slouch and border a top 5 team as well.

Arlington, while not ranked in GotSoccer i refuse to believe is anything less than a top ten team in their own right.

What this points to, is depending on where the Loudoun or McLean kids end up playing, a much tighter DA in the region than has been on display with the current age groups.


Using Got Soccer is a Fool's errand. Any "bordering" of McLean or Loudon soccer clubs based on GotSoccer VA rankings is wishful thinking. FCV will be strong too, agree with you there, but the rest of these clubs are not leading the pack this winter to see where the talent and Joneses are going.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2018 12:41     Subject: Re:Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:And BRYC is #7

The problem with using GotSoccer is it mostly only tracks tourneys and the carryover of points in the fall can be very misleading depending on a teams tournament schedule. This can inflate a clubs ranking or deflate.

Youth Soccer rankings tends to look at more info including league standings when available.


exactly

and that's why I did not use them and instead used the REGION I Youth Soccer rankings, a better indicator of how these teams play
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2018 12:38     Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is still early to tell with the younger age groups. It will be more clear in Jan at the DA ID sessions. Many of the 07s are still deciding where to focus trying out.


Agree.
in Virginia FCV 07s will stay for DA. They are ranked 154 in region 1, but a better team then that. The 2 big power clubs with very strong 07 girls are Loudoun (ranked #8) and Mclean (#26), but they are the ECNL, so any DA shift may not occur unless say top 3-5 at each club defect. The other 2 DAs, WS and arlington (#102) are either non-existent or a weaker group, so if everyone stays home, it will all be spread out and diluted again with 2 strong ECNL clubs at that age . . . . . Loudoun + Mclean.

braddock (#110) is the ECNL but probably lower on chain.

All speculation but a lot may be about the DAs trying to get commits before the ECNLdoes . . . . . why doesn't the ECNL change that approch and go earlier?


P.s. these are from youthsoccerrankings.us!
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2018 12:38     Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Do not use GotSoccer rankings.

I found 07 girls rankings for the board from the PP's website. Confirmed as follows:

Region I RANKINGS for 2007s at GDA/ECNL clubs in NoVA

8. Loudoun (ECNL)
26. McLean (ECNL)

102. Arlington (GDA)
110. BRYC (ECNL)
154. FCV (GDA)

N/A. W. Spirit (Great Falls not a substitute)





Link?
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2018 12:36     Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Do not use GotSoccer rankings.

I found 07 girls rankings for the board from the PP's website. Confirmed as follows:

Region I RANKINGS for 2007s at GDA/ECNL clubs in NoVA

8. Loudoun (ECNL)
26. McLean (ECNL)

102. Arlington (GDA)
110. BRYC (ECNL)
154. FCV (GDA)

N/A. W. Spirit (Great Falls not a substitute)



Anonymous
Post 09/28/2018 12:35     Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is still early to tell with the younger age groups. It will be more clear in Jan at the DA ID sessions. Many of the 07s are still deciding where to focus trying out.


Agree.
in Virginia FCV 07s will stay for DA. They are ranked 154 in region 1, but a better team then that. The 2 big power clubs with very strong 07 girls are Loudoun (ranked #8) and Mclean (#26), but they are the ECNL, so any DA shift may not occur unless say top 3-5 at each club defect. The other 2 DAs, WS and arlington (#102) are either non-existent or a weaker group, so if everyone stays home, it will all be spread out and diluted again with 2 strong ECNL clubs at that age . . . . . Loudoun + Mclean.

braddock (#110) is the ECNL but probably lower on chain.

All speculation but a lot may be about the DAs trying to get commits before the ECNLdoes . . . . . why doesn't the ECNL change that approch and go earlier?


This is funny. Here are the rankings according to Youth Soccer Rankings:
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/VA/12/Girls/

1. Loudoun
2. McLean
5. Arlington
11. Gunston
12. Great Falls
16. FCV


if you haven't seen all these teams play, and you check out rankings, my region 1 rankings from that SAME website of yours will tell you a lot more about the strength of those clubs age groups then where they are in virginia.

you don't only play VA teams at jeff cup

Best is to watch them play of course.


Absolutely watching the teams play can give important info but looking over the game history can be a bit illuminating:
http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=922753&History=yes&compact=



Anonymous
Post 09/28/2018 12:30     Subject: Re:Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Gunston is ranked 8th as well according to Got Soccer.

So two of WS affiliate/partner clubs are top ten quality teams and they border a top 5 team in McLean.

FCV is no slouch and border a top 5 team as well.

Arlington, while not ranked in GotSoccer i refuse to believe is anything less than a top ten team in their own right.

What this points to, is depending on where the Loudoun or McLean kids end up playing, a much tighter DA in the region than has been on display with the current age groups.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2018 12:25     Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is still early to tell with the younger age groups. It will be more clear in Jan at the DA ID sessions. Many of the 07s are still deciding where to focus trying out.


Agree.
in Virginia FCV 07s will stay for DA. They are ranked 154 in region 1, but a better team then that. The 2 big power clubs with very strong 07 girls are Loudoun (ranked #8) and Mclean (#26), but they are the ECNL, so any DA shift may not occur unless say top 3-5 at each club defect. The other 2 DAs, WS and arlington (#102) are either non-existent or a weaker group, so if everyone stays home, it will all be spread out and diluted again with 2 strong ECNL clubs at that age . . . . . Loudoun + Mclean.

braddock (#110) is the ECNL but probably lower on chain.

All speculation but a lot may be about the DAs trying to get commits before the ECNLdoes . . . . . why doesn't the ECNL change that approch and go earlier?


This is funny. Here are the rankings according to Youth Soccer Rankings:
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/VA/12/Girls/

1. Loudoun
2. McLean
5. Arlington
11. Gunston
12. Great Falls
16. FCV


if you haven't seen all these teams play, and you check out rankings, my region 1 rankings from that SAME website of yours will tell you a lot more about the strength of those clubs age groups then where they are in virginia.

you don't only play VA teams at jeff cup

Best is to watch them play of course.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2018 12:24     Subject: Re:Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Got Soccer rankings:
http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Country=USA&Level=State&Gender=Girls&Age=12&Region=1&State=VA

1. Loudoun
2. McLean
4. FCV
5. Great Falls
13. BRYC

There are no GotSoccer rankings beyond 25 clubs so the rankings are very incomplete at this point.