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It's not the substance of the conversation that is the issue. It's the Congresswoman's (and the media's) suggestion that Trump called with the intent of disrespecting her husband. And likely, in many people's minds, because the soldier was black.

I have not seen this inferred or suggested. The bottom line is that Trump called and WAS disrespectful. Whether he meant to or not, I highly doubt it was the intent.

He is just that much of a b00b.

If people have suggested it's because he was black (and they have), then how are they not implying....err, inferring...that it was intentional?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm concerned because it seems like any condemnation of a black person's behavior is claimed to be because of race. It's like with the NFL players, many of whom are white. When we say we think they are being disrepectful, I've heard retorts that we are mad because they "don't know their place." Will you only be satisfied when black people can behave however atrociously they want to because, well....criticism of blacks is not allowed?

Congresswoman Wilson's behavior has been reprehensible, and her mocking, facetious attitude displayed this morning shows she thinks she's subjected to a different standard of conduct. And I am condemning her behavior, even though she's black. Sue me.

Please, this is a good time to focus on honoring the sacrifices of Gold Star families and those who mourn.

Yes, and that is why Wilson should have kept her trap shut.

Oh look, another conservative telling an outspoken woman to keep her trap shut. Quoting Paul, are we?

I notice that not a single Trump supporter here has commented on Wilson's close involvement in her community over the course of decades and the lives she has helped through her mentoring program and her outspokenness about helping black men avoid becoming statistics of violence and crime. Because you just want to keep pushing the narrative of a loud mouthed black elder who needs to keep her trap shut and pay obeisance to the master in the White House.

http://5000rolemodels.dadeschools.net/

Black elder? Still playing the race card, are we?

And as far as what she's done to help her community, I haven't followed her career (although apparently she's been good at grabbing taxpayer money to give to her constituents). Besides, it makes no difference in the instance we are discussing, which is how she took a private moment to try and shame the president. Shame on her!

AGAIN, she wasn't in Congress in 2009 when the funds were appropriated for the FBI field office so characterizing her as "good at grabbing taxpayer money to give to her constituents" is BS.

And her mentoring program, which way predates her service in Congress, is exactly the kind of thing that keeps underprivileged communities safe and successful. But you'd never acknowledge that, as much as you bitch about Chicago.

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Anonymous wrote:God, this is just a gross story. The WH is totally incompetent. Trump tweeting after Kelly botched his defense of him. Just LET IT GO. Stop talking about it.

Why should we? The Congresswoman was on CNN this morning, keeping it alive by talking about it for 20 minutes while saying the family doesn't like it! Shouldn't both sides let it go?

The WH CoS used the podium with the presidential seal to lie and otherwise slander and impugn the ethics and integrity of a MoC. So, no. Trump drags everyone down to his level. Kelly needs to go. He's an embarrassment.

She impugns her own integrity and ethics. Not to mention her sense of fashion and ability to do her makeup. Looks like she applies it with a shovel. I hope she doesn't think she's any better than Trump in that regard.

So much for not denigrating someone for their perceived looks. Should Sarah Sanders be fair game again?

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It's not the substance of the conversation that is the issue. It's the Congresswoman's (and the media's) suggestion that Trump called with the intent of disrespecting her husband. And likely, in many people's minds, because the soldier was black.

I have not seen this inferred or suggested. The bottom line is that Trump called and WAS disrespectful. Whether he meant to or not, I highly doubt it was the intent.

He is just that much of a b00b.

I would like someone to post one story where Trump took the high road and was gracious without making a story all about the injustice to himself or "punching back 10 times harder." Just one.

Because he seems utterly incapable of it. The presidential thing for him to have said/done in response to Rep. Wilson's claim is "I am truly sorry for Mrs. Johnson's great loss. I grieve along with her and am very sorry that my phone call was not the comforting experience I intended it to be. We as a nation respect his service and feel gratitude for it." And then invite the family to the White House for tea with him and Melania.

That would have been the classy thing to do.

And to those who trot out "yeah well he constantly gets slammed" - seriously, if that's his excuse, he should never have run for president. If he can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

So, Trump supporters, come back and show us how many times he has graciously taken the high road. Because most presidents before him were able to do that with their critics. Seriously, did Obama ever get into a sling match with Rep. Joe "You Lie" Wilson? Doesn't anyone remember how Hillary invited Barbara Bush to the White House after BB called her a "name that rhymes with witch"?

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Anonymous wrote:God, this is just a gross story. The WH is totally incompetent. Trump tweeting after Kelly botched his defense of him. Just LET IT GO. Stop talking about it.

Why should we? The Congresswoman was on CNN this morning, keeping it alive by talking about it for 20 minutes while saying the family doesn't like it! Shouldn't both sides let it go?

The WH CoS used the podium with the presidential seal to lie and otherwise slander and impugn the ethics and integrity of a MoC. So, no. Trump drags everyone down to his level. Kelly needs to go. He's an embarrassment.

She impugns her own integrity and ethics. Not to mention her sense of fashion and ability to do her makeup. Looks like she applies it with a shovel. I hope she doesn't think she's any better than Trump in that regard.

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One HUGE thing he has done has rolled back regulation that has strangled business. He is also actively working to enact tax reform.... the market is anticipating that this will happen.

Specifically what regulations have been rolled back and what businesses were those regulations strangling? Be specific. The generalities are just campaign speech and EO Signing ceremony rhetoric.

The Clean Power Act or whatever it was called. Terrible for business. And the mine will be approved in Alaska to get precious metals. I could go on and on.

The clean power act that continues the path towards energy independence without harming the environment? I can't imagine why rolling that back would be seen as a positive?

Opening a mine in Alaska - so further soiling the environment to give some fat cat donors a few bucks at the expense of a fragile ecosystem?

Yay, winning!

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Anonymous wrote:God, this is just a gross story. The WH is totally incompetent. Trump tweeting after Kelly botched his defense of him. Just LET IT GO. Stop talking about it.

Kelly botched his defense? Were you listening to the same broadcast I was? Kelly was phenomenal. If you weren't moved by his speech (and he lost his own son, remember), then you are too "contaminated" by hatred of all things Trump to see things objectively.

Kelly was doing good until he decided to lay into Congresswoman Wilson with a fake story. He fvcked up big time, and eroded his credibility. There's nothing objective about a lie.

Stop lying. He was amazing. Trump was so smart when he hired Kelly. Class act guy.

Kelly lied. I guess you could say he was amazing in that regard, if you think lying is something to be revered.

He is an amazing clean-up man. Trump should have owned this whole thing. If he would have just come out and said something to the effect that I apologize if my words were taken poorly, I meant no disrespect he could closed this issue. Instead he sent The Clean-up man. He is a coward and I now I view Kelly much the same way. If he was a gentleman with class he would have left the congresswoman out of his new conference and focused on the family.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm concerned because it seems like any condemnation of a black person's behavior is claimed to be because of race. It's like with the NFL players, many of whom are white. When we say we think they are being disrepectful, I've heard retorts that we are mad because they "don't know their place." Will you only be satisfied when black people can behave however atrociously they want to because, well....criticism of blacks is not allowed?

Congresswoman Wilson's behavior has been reprehensible, and her mocking, facetious attitude displayed this morning shows she thinks she's subjected to a different standard of conduct. And I am condemning her behavior, even though she's black. Sue me.

Please, this is a good time to focus on honoring the sacrifices of Gold Star families and those who mourn.

Yes, and that is why Wilson should have kept her trap shut.

Oh look, another conservative telling an outspoken woman to keep her trap shut. Quoting Paul, are we?

I notice that not a single Trump supporter here has commented on Wilson's close involvement in her community over the course of decades and the lives she has helped through her mentoring program and her outspokenness about helping black men avoid becoming statistics of violence and crime. Because you just want to keep pushing the narrative of a loud mouthed black elder who needs to keep her trap shut and pay obeisance to the master in the White House.

http://5000rolemodels.dadeschools.net/

Black elder? Still playing the race card, are we?

And as far as what she's done to help her community, I haven't followed her career (although apparently she's been good at grabbing taxpayer money to give to her constituents). Besides, it makes no difference in the instance we are discussing, which is how she took a private moment to try and shame the president. Shame on her!

The family has taken that private moment to shame the president as well. Are you going to slam them?

They have? I've seen no statement from the family. If so, what exactly did they say?

They corroborated the account of the call and how hurtful it was.

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Anonymous wrote:God, this is just a gross story. The WH is totally incompetent. Trump tweeting after Kelly botched his defense of him. Just LET IT GO. Stop talking about it.

Kelly botched his defense? Were you listening to the same broadcast I was? Kelly was phenomenal. If you weren't moved by his speech (and he lost his own son, remember), then you are too "contaminated" by hatred of all things Trump to see things objectively.

Kelly lied about the Congresswoman.
Kelly used his own experience as a political football.
Kelly confirmed the substance of the call.

But yes, he was solemn.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm concerned because it seems like any condemnation of a black person's behavior is claimed to be because of race. It's like with the NFL players, many of whom are white. When we say we think they are being disrepectful, I've heard retorts that we are mad because they "don't know their place." Will you only be satisfied when black people can behave however atrociously they want to because, well....criticism of blacks is not allowed?

Congresswoman Wilson's behavior has been reprehensible, and her mocking, facetious attitude displayed this morning shows she thinks she's subjected to a different standard of conduct. And I am condemning her behavior, even though she's black. Sue me.

Please, this is a good time to focus on honoring the sacrifices of Gold Star families and those who mourn.

Yes, and that is why Wilson should have kept her trap shut.

Oh look, another conservative telling an outspoken woman to keep her trap shut. Quoting Paul, are we?

I notice that not a single Trump supporter here has commented on Wilson's close involvement in her community over the course of decades and the lives she has helped through her mentoring program and her outspokenness about helping black men avoid becoming statistics of violence and crime. Because you just want to keep pushing the narrative of a loud mouthed black elder who needs to keep her trap shut and pay obeisance to the master in the White House.

http://5000rolemodels.dadeschools.net/

Black elder? Still playing the race card, are we?

And as far as what she's done to help her community, I haven't followed her career (although apparently she's been good at grabbing taxpayer money to give to her constituents). Besides, it makes no difference in the instance we are discussing, which is how she took a private moment to try and shame the president. Shame on her!

The family has taken that private moment to shame the president as well. Are you going to slam them?

They have? I've seen no statement from the family. If so, what exactly did they say?

"Trump did disrespect my son"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/10/18/totally-fabricated-trump-disputes-congresswomans-depiction-of-his-exchange-with-soldiers-widow/?utm_term=.d94df02ecea6

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It's not the substance of the conversation that is the issue. It's the Congresswoman's (and the media's) suggestion that Trump called with the intent of disrespecting her husband. And likely, in many people's minds, because the soldier was black.

I have not seen this inferred or suggested. The bottom line is that Trump called and WAS disrespectful. Whether he meant to or not, I highly doubt it was the intent.

He is just that much of a b00b.

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One HUGE thing he has done has rolled back regulation that has strangled business. He is also actively working to enact tax reform.... the market is anticipating that this will happen.

Specifically what regulations have been rolled back and what businesses were those regulations strangling? Be specific. The generalities are just campaign speech and EO Signing ceremony rhetoric.

The Clean Power Act or whatever it was called. Terrible for business. And the mine will be approved in Alaska to get precious metals. I could go on and on.

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Anonymous wrote:God, this is just a gross story. The WH is totally incompetent. Trump tweeting after Kelly botched his defense of him. Just LET IT GO. Stop talking about it.

Kelly botched his defense? Were you listening to the same broadcast I was? Kelly was phenomenal. If you weren't moved by his speech (and he lost his own son, remember), then you are too "contaminated" by hatred of all things Trump to see things objectively.

Kelly was doing good until he decided to lay into Congresswoman Wilson with a fake story. He fvcked up big time, and eroded his credibility. There's nothing objective about a lie.

Stop lying. He was amazing. Trump was so smart when he hired Kelly. Class act guy.

Kelly lied. I guess you could say he was amazing in that regard, if you think lying is something to be revered.

Anonymous wrote:God, this is just a gross story. The WH is totally incompetent. Trump tweeting after Kelly botched his defense of him. Just LET IT GO. Stop talking about it.

Maybe you should suggest that to the self-proclaimed "rock star."

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Anonymous wrote:God, this is just a gross story. The WH is totally incompetent. Trump tweeting after Kelly botched his defense of him. Just LET IT GO. Stop talking about it.

Kelly botched his defense? Were you listening to the same broadcast I was? Kelly was phenomenal. If you weren't moved by his speech (and he lost his own son, remember), then you are too "contaminated" by hatred of all things Trump to see things objectively.

Kelly was doing good until he decided to lay into Congresswoman Wilson with a fake story. He fvcked up big time, and eroded his credibility. There's nothing objective about a lie.

Stop lying. He was amazing. Trump was so smart when he hired Kelly. Class act guy.