Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 14:42     Subject: Who here still watches Sister Wives?

I think it is telling that Janelle is the only sister wife Christine wants a relationship with. Meri seemed to revert to her sarcastic, angry self in the last few episodes.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 14:36     Subject: Who here still watches Sister Wives?

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Anonymous wrote:I only started watching sister wives during COVID. Why doesn’t Christine like Meri?


Meri was abusive to Christine’s kids.


What are you talking about? This have never been said!


Yes, it has. Christine had a big fight with Meri about how harsh she was with the kids. The kids have also mentioned it.


Harsh or abusive? Those are very different things.


She has been abusive to Janelle, Christine and their kids. She is a mean and jealous person. https://starcasm.net/sister-wives-history-christine-had-a-huge-fight-with-meri-over-how-meri-treated-her-kids-before-she-got-pregnant-with-truely/


I think Meri is an imperfect victim of a culture that does not treat women well. She grew up believing that her worth was tied up in her being a wife and a mother. And then she struggled greatly with both roles. Not only did she struggle with infertility, she had to do it while her husband had babies with his other wives. On here we regularly here women struggling with infertility feeling agony hearing friends announce their pregnancies, Meri had to hear her literal competition do it after being told that childbearing was essentially her primary role in life her whole life.

He started marrying other women after years of her struggling to get pregnant.

She was absolutely by all accounts mean verging on abusive to the other wives and children. But IMO she was more like a caged wounded animal lashing out than a cruel person.

Clearly somewhere in the aftermath of catfish-gate Meri got serious about finding her own path. And she has kind of transformed as a person. In my opinion at least. She seems genuinely happy in the last 3-4 years in a way she never really did before. Kody failed all of them, mormonism failed all of them, polygamy failed all of them. It is hard to look back and judge these women in a terrible situation for being imperfect people. They couldn't see out of their own predicament. The show has been the best thing for them, it has brought them into the world outside of their church, and shown them that there are other paths.


I agree with this. I think Meri and Christine have both grown in a good way. They are the two I would most want to hang out with. I used to like Janelle but now I think she's just so out to lunch with the trailer and sticking around to watch Kody be an idiot. And Robyn...while I'm sure she is probably the nicest of them all, she is so needy.


Janelle is stuck in a fat girl mindset. Even though she has lost weight it's really hard to shed that mindset. It makes you feel less than and feel like you deserve less and once you do that for many years it's hard to let go. She will eventually move on but it will take her longer.


Apparently Janelle HAS moved on. Her daughter Gwendolyn said during a Q&A on her Patreon.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 14:28     Subject: Who here still watches Sister Wives?

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Anonymous wrote:I only started watching sister wives during COVID. Why doesn’t Christine like Meri?


Meri was abusive to Christine’s kids.


What are you talking about? This have never been said!


Yes, it has. Christine had a big fight with Meri about how harsh she was with the kids. The kids have also mentioned it.


Harsh or abusive? Those are very different things.


She has been abusive to Janelle, Christine and their kids. She is a mean and jealous person. https://starcasm.net/sister-wives-history-christine-had-a-huge-fight-with-meri-over-how-meri-treated-her-kids-before-she-got-pregnant-with-truely/


I think Meri is an imperfect victim of a culture that does not treat women well. She grew up believing that her worth was tied up in her being a wife and a mother. And then she struggled greatly with both roles. Not only did she struggle with infertility, she had to do it while her husband had babies with his other wives. On here we regularly here women struggling with infertility feeling agony hearing friends announce their pregnancies, Meri had to hear her literal competition do it after being told that childbearing was essentially her primary role in life her whole life.

He started marrying other women after years of her struggling to get pregnant.

She was absolutely by all accounts mean verging on abusive to the other wives and children. But IMO she was more like a caged wounded animal lashing out than a cruel person.

Clearly somewhere in the aftermath of catfish-gate Meri got serious about finding her own path. And she has kind of transformed as a person. In my opinion at least. She seems genuinely happy in the last 3-4 years in a way she never really did before. Kody failed all of them, mormonism failed all of them, polygamy failed all of them. It is hard to look back and judge these women in a terrible situation for being imperfect people. They couldn't see out of their own predicament. The show has been the best thing for them, it has brought them into the world outside of their church, and shown them that there are other paths.


I agree with this. I think Meri and Christine have both grown in a good way. They are the two I would most want to hang out with. I used to like Janelle but now I think she's just so out to lunch with the trailer and sticking around to watch Kody be an idiot. And Robyn...while I'm sure she is probably the nicest of them all, she is so needy.


Janelle is stuck in a fat girl mindset. Even though she has lost weight it's really hard to shed that mindset. It makes you feel less than and feel like you deserve less and once you do that for many years it's hard to let go. She will eventually move on but it will take her longer.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 14:23     Subject: Who here still watches Sister Wives?

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Anonymous wrote:I only started watching sister wives during COVID. Why doesn’t Christine like Meri?


Meri was abusive to Christine’s kids.


What are you talking about? This have never been said!


Yes, it has. Christine had a big fight with Meri about how harsh she was with the kids. The kids have also mentioned it.


Harsh or abusive? Those are very different things.


Merriam-Webster definition:

“abusive
adjective
abu·​sive ə-ˈbyü-siv also -ziv
1
a
: using harsh, insulting language
an angry and abusive crowd
b
: harsh and insulting
abusive language
c
: using or involving physical violence or emotional cruelty
abusive behavior
an abusive husband
an abusive relationship”



Let me re-phrase. Are we talking about definition a, b or c? Not that any are ok, but I think you knew what I was trying to get at.


Not sexual abuse, obviously.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 14:15     Subject: Who here still watches Sister Wives?

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Anonymous wrote:I only started watching sister wives during COVID. Why doesn’t Christine like Meri?


Meri was abusive to Christine’s kids.


What are you talking about? This have never been said!


Yes, it has. Christine had a big fight with Meri about how harsh she was with the kids. The kids have also mentioned it.


Harsh or abusive? Those are very different things.


She has been abusive to Janelle, Christine and their kids. She is a mean and jealous person. https://starcasm.net/sister-wives-history-christine-had-a-huge-fight-with-meri-over-how-meri-treated-her-kids-before-she-got-pregnant-with-truely/


I think Meri is an imperfect victim of a culture that does not treat women well. She grew up believing that her worth was tied up in her being a wife and a mother. And then she struggled greatly with both roles. Not only did she struggle with infertility, she had to do it while her husband had babies with his other wives. On here we regularly here women struggling with infertility feeling agony hearing friends announce their pregnancies, Meri had to hear her literal competition do it after being told that childbearing was essentially her primary role in life her whole life.

He started marrying other women after years of her struggling to get pregnant.

She was absolutely by all accounts mean verging on abusive to the other wives and children. But IMO she was more like a caged wounded animal lashing out than a cruel person.

Clearly somewhere in the aftermath of catfish-gate Meri got serious about finding her own path. And she has kind of transformed as a person. In my opinion at least. She seems genuinely happy in the last 3-4 years in a way she never really did before. Kody failed all of them, mormonism failed all of them, polygamy failed all of them. It is hard to look back and judge these women in a terrible situation for being imperfect people. They couldn't see out of their own predicament. The show has been the best thing for them, it has brought them into the world outside of their church, and shown them that there are other paths.


I agree with this. I think Meri and Christine have both grown in a good way. They are the two I would most want to hang out with. I used to like Janelle but now I think she's just so out to lunch with the trailer and sticking around to watch Kody be an idiot. And Robyn...while I'm sure she is probably the nicest of them all, she is so needy.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 14:13     Subject: Who here still watches Sister Wives?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I only started watching sister wives during COVID. Why doesn’t Christine like Meri?


Meri was abusive to Christine’s kids.


What are you talking about? This have never been said!


Yes, it has. Christine had a big fight with Meri about how harsh she was with the kids. The kids have also mentioned it.


Harsh or abusive? Those are very different things.


Merriam-Webster definition:

“abusive
adjective
abu·​sive ə-ˈbyü-siv also -ziv
1
a
: using harsh, insulting language
an angry and abusive crowd
b
: harsh and insulting
abusive language
c
: using or involving physical violence or emotional cruelty
abusive behavior
an abusive husband
an abusive relationship”



Let me re-phrase. Are we talking about definition a, b or c? Not that any are ok, but I think you knew what I was trying to get at.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 13:55     Subject: Who here still watches Sister Wives?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I only started watching sister wives during COVID. Why doesn’t Christine like Meri?


Meri was abusive to Christine’s kids.


What are you talking about? This have never been said!


Yes, it has. Christine had a big fight with Meri about how harsh she was with the kids. The kids have also mentioned it.


Harsh or abusive? Those are very different things.


She has been abusive to Janelle, Christine and their kids. She is a mean and jealous person. https://starcasm.net/sister-wives-history-christine-had-a-huge-fight-with-meri-over-how-meri-treated-her-kids-before-she-got-pregnant-with-truely/


I think Meri is an imperfect victim of a culture that does not treat women well. She grew up believing that her worth was tied up in her being a wife and a mother. And then she struggled greatly with both roles. Not only did she struggle with infertility, she had to do it while her husband had babies with his other wives. On here we regularly here women struggling with infertility feeling agony hearing friends announce their pregnancies, Meri had to hear her literal competition do it after being told that childbearing was essentially her primary role in life her whole life.

He started marrying other women after years of her struggling to get pregnant.

She was absolutely by all accounts mean verging on abusive to the other wives and children. But IMO she was more like a caged wounded animal lashing out than a cruel person.

Clearly somewhere in the aftermath of catfish-gate Meri got serious about finding her own path. And she has kind of transformed as a person. In my opinion at least. She seems genuinely happy in the last 3-4 years in a way she never really did before. Kody failed all of them, mormonism failed all of them, polygamy failed all of them. It is hard to look back and judge these women in a terrible situation for being imperfect people. They couldn't see out of their own predicament. The show has been the best thing for them, it has brought them into the world outside of their church, and shown them that there are other paths.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 13:39     Subject: Who here still watches Sister Wives?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I only started watching sister wives during COVID. Why doesn’t Christine like Meri?


Meri was abusive to Christine’s kids.


What are you talking about? This have never been said!


Yes, it has. Christine had a big fight with Meri about how harsh she was with the kids. The kids have also mentioned it.


Harsh or abusive? Those are very different things.


Merriam-Webster definition:

“abusive
adjective
abu·​sive ə-ˈbyü-siv also -ziv
1
a
: using harsh, insulting language
an angry and abusive crowd
b
: harsh and insulting
abusive language
c
: using or involving physical violence or emotional cruelty
abusive behavior
an abusive husband
an abusive relationship”

Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 13:35     Subject: Who here still watches Sister Wives?

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Post 11/16/2022 13:24     Subject: Who here still watches Sister Wives?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I only started watching sister wives during COVID. Why doesn’t Christine like Meri?


Meri was abusive to Christine’s kids.


What are you talking about? This have never been said!


Yes, it has. Christine had a big fight with Meri about how harsh she was with the kids. The kids have also mentioned it.


Harsh or abusive? Those are very different things.


She has been abusive to Janelle, Christine and their kids. She is a mean and jealous person. https://starcasm.net/sister-wives-history-christine-had-a-huge-fight-with-meri-over-how-meri-treated-her-kids-before-she-got-pregnant-with-truely/

The article doesn’t describe abuse. And it’s written by someone that doesn’t know the difference between roll and role.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 13:23     Subject: Who here still watches Sister Wives?

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Post 11/16/2022 13:20     Subject: Who here still watches Sister Wives?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I only started watching sister wives during COVID. Why doesn’t Christine like Meri?


Meri was abusive to Christine’s kids.


What are you talking about? This have never been said!


Yes, it has. Christine had a big fight with Meri about how harsh she was with the kids. The kids have also mentioned it.


Harsh or abusive? Those are very different things.


She has been abusive to Janelle, Christine and their kids. She is a mean and jealous person. https://starcasm.net/sister-wives-history-christine-had-a-huge-fight-with-meri-over-how-meri-treated-her-kids-before-she-got-pregnant-with-truely/
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 13:18     Subject: Who here still watches Sister Wives?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I only started watching sister wives during COVID. Why doesn’t Christine like Meri?


Meri was abusive to Christine’s kids.


What are you talking about? This have never been said!


Yes, it has. Christine had a big fight with Meri about how harsh she was with the kids. The kids have also mentioned it.


Harsh or abusive? Those are very different things.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 13:09     Subject: Who here still watches Sister Wives?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I only started watching sister wives during COVID. Why doesn’t Christine like Meri?


Meri was abusive to Christine’s kids.


What are you talking about? This have never been said!


Yes, it has. Christine had a big fight with Meri about how harsh she was with the kids. The kids have also mentioned it.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2022 11:17     Subject: Who here still watches Sister Wives?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I only started watching sister wives during COVID. Why doesn’t Christine like Meri?


Lots and lots and lots of baggage. Kody and Meri married first and I think from photos at the time and from footage of the show in the beginning they had real romantic love for each other. She grew up in polygamy and did know what she was signing up for. Janelle married Cody next and she and Meri HATED each other. Fought constantly, it was apparently by all accounts a fairly dark time in the family. Reading between the lines, Janelle was popping out her kids at this time and Meri, after struggling to get pregnant with Leon (then Mariah), had secondary infertility that she never overcame. Additionally, Janelle is actually Meri's BROTHER'S ex wife. And there was clearly some funny business happening because they had virtually no courtship and everyone felt like it was quite out of the blue. So Janelle left Meri's brother to marry her husband. So Janelle's integration into 'the family' was not smooth. Then Kody married Christine to 'fix' the situation with Meri and Janelle. And then the kids started coming (Meri married in 1989, Janelle in 1993, Christine in 1994). So it went from bad relationships with having 100 kids to look after. Janelle was essentially the breadwinner during this time and Meri was by all accounts just kind of sulking through her struggles with infertility and raising Mariah. Christine was taking care of her and Janelle's kids (an eventual total of TWELVE children). And she was living in the basement of their house. Janelle had the biggest section upstairs because I believe she basically bought the house and Meri had it seems like a very cushy part of the house because she was the first wife.

In the early years of the show they were all constantly in therapy and it was clear Meri and Janelle just did not like each other and had had some NASTY fights. A lot of bitterness. And Christine is just kind of below all this, unhappy, but trying her best, but not the main character in any conflict. She was closer with Janelle though due to obviously the relationship she had with Janelle's children and the gratitude Janelle had for her. And apparently the way the house was set up in Utah the kids would end up running through Meri's apartment a lot and she would just tear into them. Where Christine was a (somewhat indentured) loving caretaker for all the kids, Meri was the bitter spinstress who couldn't have another baby and wallowed in it and got angry and spiteful towards these other women and all their bountiful fertility/children. Whereas during this time where Christine and Janelle are bonding over motherhood, Meri is continually unable to get pregnant and suffered apparently a very traumatic miscarriage sometime in the 00s.

Then, years and years later Kody meets and marries Robyn, a divorcee in 2010. She is the only other wife he married for love IMO. She was younger, they were more financially stable and put together, and they have what I think is essentially a normal marriage hidden under a blanket of polygamy.

And his other wives, who have all swallowed a variety of indiginities over the decades under the agreement that they are all kind of in the same boat, are like, wtf. If we're all unhappy that is somewhat acceptable, because we just kind of thought that is the price we pay for this life. But all of a sudden one of them has this happy and flourishing marriage and its like the rules of the game changed.


Based on all this, wouldn't it be imperative in regular polygamy (not the child marrying, 100 wives kind) that your wives like each other before you marry? Seems like all of these relationships were doomed before they even started and Cody is an immature self absorbed ass so that doesn't help.


Nope, it's all about the "principle" and Kody's place in the kingdom of heaven. At least, it used to be. I think once they all broke from the church, they realized that it was a big sham and there was no reason to keep up the charade. I mean, none of them act religious in any way. Yet in old pictures, they are wearing the long dresses so they must have been pretty strong believers at one point. Now they just believe in making money from TLC.