Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I
Can
Not
Wait...
For these shelters to open.
All this presumption about how neighborhoods will suddenly turn into post-apocalyptic Mad Max war zones with widespread anarchy and chaos is outrageous.
I hope people are as open in admitting how idiotic their paranoid delusions were as they are forthcoming in declaring The End Is Near!!

Screw off. You are the only one being hyperbolic. The shelters are going to waste a lot of money, they’re going to do nothing to help homeless that a similar shelter in a more logical location wouldn’t do, and they’re going to make the immediate neighborhood slightly worse. It’s stupid and it sucks, but it’s not the end of the world, and no one is suggesting it will end the world. It is however an entirely avoidable error that Bowser will refuse to change or acknowledge.

What's a more logical location, besides somewhere different than your neighborhood?

Or should the shelter be in a more "diverse" part of town?

Or a more "urban" part of town?

You don’t have to put urban in quotes because we get your point. And by diverse I take it you mean black although you’re obviously using the wrong descriptor because you’re an imbecile. But I’ll bite.......yes, house the homeless near where they are likely to get work and where they are likely to be near family and the social services they require.....e.g., the 95% of DC that you’d describe as black neighborhoods.

Based on this thread I’m convinced the Ward 3 shelter will be a complete disaster for the occupants because they are going to be ostracized and vilified and the community is going to shun them shame them and shit all over them it won’t be pretty.

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if 10-20% of the families say “To hell with this” and opt to go back to being homeless on the street far away from Ward 3 rather than live at that shelter because the locals are going to give them hell. The snooty looks and snarky comments and overall antipathy is going to make it a hellish place to live so I agree with the “Its Not Fair Why Our Neighborhood” whiners 100% this is NOT a good idea because the atmosphere/environment will be way too toxic for these people to get back on their feet.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I
Can
Not
Wait...
For these shelters to open.
All this presumption about how neighborhoods will suddenly turn into post-apocalyptic Mad Max war zones with widespread anarchy and chaos is outrageous.
I hope people are as open in admitting how idiotic their paranoid delusions were as they are forthcoming in declaring The End Is Near!!

Screw off. You are the only one being hyperbolic. The shelters are going to waste a lot of money, they’re going to do nothing to help homeless that a similar shelter in a more logical location wouldn’t do, and they’re going to make the immediate neighborhood slightly worse. It’s stupid and it sucks, but it’s not the end of the world, and no one is suggesting it will end the world. It is however an entirely avoidable error that Bowser will refuse to change or acknowledge.

What's a more logical location, besides somewhere different than your neighborhood?

Or should the shelter be in a more "diverse" part of town?

Or a more "urban" part of town?

Screw off again. It's not being put in my neighborhood. I think it should go in an existing building in a less expensive location. DC owns plenty of unused buildings and lots that could be converted to shelter space more cheaply than this one is to build. But we're jamming a brand new building into an expensive area because Bowser wants to put a shelter into every ward for purely political reasons ... practicality be damned.

Take your veiled accusations of racism and shove them up your ass. It's just a stupid plan. And quite frankly, Bowser's determination to put a shelter in every ward - rather than in spaces that make the most sense - smacks of a race-based calculation itself.

+100. Sometimes Bowser seems like Marion in a skirt.

Agreed. It seemed more like a middle-finger to Ward 3 (and others) and get developer campaign $$$, not help anyone. That's a secondary thought, if it was even a thought at all. Shared bathrooms? No kitchens? Please; it's worse than the hotels people stayed in and complained about, but without adequate transportation options to boot.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I
Can
Not
Wait...
For these shelters to open.
All this presumption about how neighborhoods will suddenly turn into post-apocalyptic Mad Max war zones with widespread anarchy and chaos is outrageous.
I hope people are as open in admitting how idiotic their paranoid delusions were as they are forthcoming in declaring The End Is Near!!

Screw off. You are the only one being hyperbolic. The shelters are going to waste a lot of money, they’re going to do nothing to help homeless that a similar shelter in a more logical location wouldn’t do, and they’re going to make the immediate neighborhood slightly worse. It’s stupid and it sucks, but it’s not the end of the world, and no one is suggesting it will end the world. It is however an entirely avoidable error that Bowser will refuse to change or acknowledge.

What's a more logical location, besides somewhere different than your neighborhood?

Or should the shelter be in a more "diverse" part of town?

Or a more "urban" part of town?

Screw off again. It's not being put in my neighborhood. I think it should go in an existing building in a less expensive location. DC owns plenty of unused buildings and lots that could be converted to shelter space more cheaply than this one is to build. But we're jamming a brand new building into an expensive area because Bowser wants to put a shelter into every ward for purely political reasons ... practicality be damned.

Take your veiled accusations of racism and shove them up your ass. It's just a stupid plan. And quite frankly, Bowser's determination to put a shelter in every ward - rather than in spaces that make the most sense - smacks of a race-based calculation itself.

+100. Sometimes Bowser seems like Marion in a skirt.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I
Can
Not
Wait...
For these shelters to open.
All this presumption about how neighborhoods will suddenly turn into post-apocalyptic Mad Max war zones with widespread anarchy and chaos is outrageous.
I hope people are as open in admitting how idiotic their paranoid delusions were as they are forthcoming in declaring The End Is Near!!

Screw off. You are the only one being hyperbolic. The shelters are going to waste a lot of money, they’re going to do nothing to help homeless that a similar shelter in a more logical location wouldn’t do, and they’re going to make the immediate neighborhood slightly worse. It’s stupid and it sucks, but it’s not the end of the world, and no one is suggesting it will end the world. It is however an entirely avoidable error that Bowser will refuse to change or acknowledge.

What's a more logical location, besides somewhere different than your neighborhood?

Or should the shelter be in a more "diverse" part of town?

Or a more "urban" part of town?

Screw off again. It's not being put in my neighborhood. I think it should go in an existing building in a less expensive location. DC owns plenty of unused buildings and lots that could be converted to shelter space more cheaply than this one is to build. But we're jamming a brand new building into an expensive area because Bowser wants to put a shelter into every ward for purely political reasons ... practicality be damned.

Take your veiled accusations of racism and shove them up your ass. It's just a stupid plan. And quite frankly, Bowser's determination to put a shelter in every ward - rather than in spaces that make the most sense - smacks of a race-based calculation itself.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I
Can
Not
Wait...
For these shelters to open.
All this presumption about how neighborhoods will suddenly turn into post-apocalyptic Mad Max war zones with widespread anarchy and chaos is outrageous.
I hope people are as open in admitting how idiotic their paranoid delusions were as they are forthcoming in declaring The End Is Near!!

Screw off. You are the only one being hyperbolic. The shelters are going to waste a lot of money, they’re going to do nothing to help homeless that a similar shelter in a more logical location wouldn’t do, and they’re going to make the immediate neighborhood slightly worse. It’s stupid and it sucks, but it’s not the end of the world, and no one is suggesting it will end the world. It is however an entirely avoidable error that Bowser will refuse to change or acknowledge.

What's a more logical location, besides somewhere different than your neighborhood?

Or should the shelter be in a more "diverse" part of town?

Or a more "urban" part of town?

I assume that many of those who dismiss as self-centered or suggest as racist the concerns of those live in McLean Gardens about the shelter's impact on the immediate neighborhood, themselves live some distance away. It's very easy to get up on a moral high horse knowing that you can just ride away.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I
Can
Not
Wait...
For these shelters to open.
All this presumption about how neighborhoods will suddenly turn into post-apocalyptic Mad Max war zones with widespread anarchy and chaos is outrageous.
I hope people are as open in admitting how idiotic their paranoid delusions were as they are forthcoming in declaring The End Is Near!!

Screw off. You are the only one being hyperbolic. The shelters are going to waste a lot of money, they’re going to do nothing to help homeless that a similar shelter in a more logical location wouldn’t do, and they’re going to make the immediate neighborhood slightly worse. It’s stupid and it sucks, but it’s not the end of the world, and no one is suggesting it will end the world. It is however an entirely avoidable error that Bowser will refuse to change or acknowledge.

What's a more logical location, besides somewhere different than your neighborhood?

Or should the shelter be in a more "diverse" part of town?

Or a more "urban" part of town?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I
Can
Not
Wait...
For these shelters to open.
All this presumption about how neighborhoods will suddenly turn into post-apocalyptic Mad Max war zones with widespread anarchy and chaos is outrageous.
I hope people are as open in admitting how idiotic their paranoid delusions were as they are forthcoming in declaring The End Is Near!!

Screw off. You are the only one being hyperbolic. The shelters are going to waste a lot of money, they’re going to do nothing to help homeless that a similar shelter in a more logical location wouldn’t do, and they’re going to make the immediate neighborhood slightly worse. It’s stupid and it sucks, but it’s not the end of the world, and no one is suggesting it will end the world. It is however an entirely avoidable error that Bowser will refuse to change or acknowledge.

+1000000

Nor will do as I say leader Cheh. When is she up for reelection and who is running against her who cares about constituents in ward 3?

Anonymous wrote:I
Can
Not
Wait...
For these shelters to open.
All this presumption about how neighborhoods will suddenly turn into post-apocalyptic Mad Max war zones with widespread anarchy and chaos is outrageous.
I hope people are as open in admitting how idiotic their paranoid delusions were as they are forthcoming in declaring The End Is Near!!

Screw off. You are the only one being hyperbolic. The shelters are going to waste a lot of money, they’re going to do nothing to help homeless that a similar shelter in a more logical location wouldn’t do, and they’re going to make the immediate neighborhood slightly worse. It’s stupid and it sucks, but it’s not the end of the world, and no one is suggesting it will end the world. It is however an entirely avoidable error that Bowser will refuse to change or acknowledge.

I
Can
Not
Wait...
For these shelters to open.
All this presumption about how neighborhoods will suddenly turn into post-apocalyptic Mad Max war zones with widespread anarchy and chaos is outrageous.
I hope people are as open in admitting how idiotic their paranoid delusions were as they are forthcoming in declaring The End Is Near!!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious why they didn't put it in the Lab School instead of giving them a sweetheart deal? Or charge the Lab School what the property is worth and use that $ for these sites and services? Nothing in this city's real estate dealings and expenditures makes sense for the actual citizens represented, many of whom are funding these initiatives with their hard labor and taxes.

Politics, my dear. And political contributions. The Lab School and its backers clearly have some fantastic connections at the District Building. So do the developers who are pushing the closing of DC General so that they can get the property on attractive terms. And the neighbors in Mass. Ave. Heights obviously have more pull downtown than the schmoes in McLean Gardens.

For like the 500th time in this thread, neighborhood opposition to the Mass Ave Heights site -- while prevalent -- did not kill that proposal. Instead, Bowser's barely concealed attempt to basically hand her developer campaign donors millions to lease the land and build the shelter killed it after the Council figured out her scheme.

If Bowser wasn't such an ethically challenged dim bulb, they'd be building a homeless shelter in Mass Ave Heights right now.

This is part of it. The shelter scheme has ALWAYS been more about the developer campaign donors rather than serving the homeless. The developers, first of all, are salivating to see DC General closed so that they can get a sweetheart deal to redevelop it. Other contributors stood to gain from Bowser's "public-private partnerships" to build, lease to DC and operate new shelters across the city. Lost in the conversation was how the DC government planned to successfully and effectively replicate services to homeless families in multiple site, when it couldn't even provide them at scale in a centralized location. The Mass Ave. neighbors, or course, weren't stupid. They also seized on the argument that Bowser's original plan was a gift to her cronies and that DC should look at other sites, particularly ones that it already owned. Several helpfully proposed the police station site. Cheh, whose visible impatience with opinions other than her own is exceeded only by her inflated notion of her own intelligence and judgment, wanted One and Done and to move on. Having killed the Mass Ave. Heights shelter, She Who Knows Best for Us chose the Idaho site over the objections of the Department of General Services. Without even talking to the police about how it would impact their operations, she rushed legislation approving the shelter at the Idaho site through the DC Council in about 10 days.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious why they didn't put it in the Lab School instead of giving them a sweetheart deal? Or charge the Lab School what the property is worth and use that $ for these sites and services? Nothing in this city's real estate dealings and expenditures makes sense for the actual citizens represented, many of whom are funding these initiatives with their hard labor and taxes.

Politics, my dear. And political contributions. The Lab School and its backers clearly have some fantastic connections at the District Building. So do the developers who are pushing the closing of DC General so that they can get the property on attractive terms. And the neighbors in Mass. Ave. Heights obviously have more pull downtown than the schmoes in McLean Gardens.

For like the 500th time in this thread, neighborhood opposition to the Mass Ave Heights site -- while prevalent -- did not kill that proposal. Instead, Bowser's barely concealed attempt to basically hand her developer campaign donors millions to lease the land and build the shelter killed it after the Council figured out her scheme.

If Bowser wasn't such an ethically challenged dim bulb, they'd be building a homeless shelter in Mass Ave Heights right now.

Then there's not much to say or advocate. They will do what they will do, and it has nothing to do with saving money or serving residents ethically and competently.

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious why they didn't put it in the Lab School instead of giving them a sweetheart deal? Or charge the Lab School what the property is worth and use that $ for these sites and services? Nothing in this city's real estate dealings and expenditures makes sense for the actual citizens represented, many of whom are funding these initiatives with their hard labor and taxes.

Politics, my dear. And political contributions. The Lab School and its backers clearly have some fantastic connections at the District Building. So do the developers who are pushing the closing of DC General so that they can get the property on attractive terms. And the neighbors in Mass. Ave. Heights obviously have more pull downtown than the schmoes in McLean Gardens.