My heart broke for poor Isaac. Kail is truly a horrid person. I used to really root for her but she truly is just terrible.

Anonymous wrote:I think Chelsea is gonna make. She will be ok. The others I dont have such hope.

Do you think Cole is for real? Who is that nice all the time? Don't they ever fight or doesn't he ever get annoyed with her?

Anonymous wrote:I think Chelsea is gonna make. She will be ok. The others I dont have such hope.

She named her baby WATSON. WTF was she thinking?! The baby talk had been fading but I think it's coming back full force.

Janelle: can not stop pretending to prioritize her kids but really prioritizing her men.

Kail: despite being the only one with a bachelor's degree, total shit show in her personal life. If my marriage fell apart while my husband was deployed, I'd still let him come home. We'd just have separate bedrooms while he looked for a place. I am feeling a rage for her normally reserved for Farrah.

Crackwhore: Corey should just have the girls all the time. Even the little one that's not his.

I think Chelsea is gonna make. She will be ok. The others I dont have such hope.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how sweet Jace is to Barbara. Breaks my heart at how sad he looks when Jenelle talks about keeping him and how he tells Jenelle he'll miss her if she doesn't take him back

Even sadder, he said he'd miss DAYCARE if he went with Janelle. He'd rather be institutionalized than spend time with his birth mother.

Yea. He said he gets to play tennis there. And Jenelles like we can do that. But obviously never has

I think he likes the stability of daycare. He knows what he will be doing every day and it's fun. Life with Janelle is likely exciting for the cameras and boring IRL. Day camp is probably fun every day. He knows Babs will pick him up and he will have dinner and bed. Routine and stability are so important for kids.

My thoughts as well. He probably has regular friends there, he knows the teachers, and they have fun structured activities for him, and probably no adults screaming at each other. Babs is great, but I'm sure she's stressed and that trickles down to Jace inevitably. Day camp is his escape, where it can be all about him. Sounds like when the cameras aren't there, Jace plays his XBox by himself or with Maryssa (although I think she's only there for the cameras, too). I was just thinking, has there been a time recently when Jenelle wasn't involved with a man that Jace would be old enough to remember? She was with Nathan for a while (in Jenelle-land), then she was battling with him, and now she's with Dave. so there's never really been a time when Jace could go to his mom's house, and just BE WITH HIS MOM. There's always somebody else taking up her time. No wonder he calls Babs Mommy. (Jenelle: Oh you mean Meme? Jace: sure whatever)

All of these women are starving for the attention of men. Especially the ones without father figures in their lives (Jenelle, Kail specifically). The others seem to manage better without a man.

I feel for all of these kids. Surely the cycle will continue.

someone posted this on another site--Jo actually has a conversation about the divorce with Isaac. So Kail and her husband are getting divorced, and her son is really confused, so sure, leave it to his father, a third party, to smooth it over and explain everything. http://www.mtv.com/video-clips/0rkdr5/teen-mom-2-sneak-peek-jo-explains-the-hard-truth-to-isaac

If you don't want to watch the vid, basically Isaac is sad because he wants to see Javi's new house and says Kail told him he can't go. Jo says that he will make sure Isaac gets to see Javi, and that he will talk to Kail and Javi about it. Oh, and he flat out tells him that Javi is not going to live with Kail anymore. I hate the way Kail seems to dance around these issues. She just started talking about Javi's new house, but it didn't seem like she ever sat Isaac down and said "We are braking up. He is moving out. He does not live with us anymore." She may have done it when the cameras weren't rolling, but if she had, I think Isaac would be a little more clear about things. He's what, 6-7 years old now? He can understand these things.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how sweet Jace is to Barbara. Breaks my heart at how sad he looks when Jenelle talks about keeping him and how he tells Jenelle he'll miss her if she doesn't take him back

Even sadder, he said he'd miss DAYCARE if he went with Janelle. He'd rather be institutionalized than spend time with his birth mother.

Yea. He said he gets to play tennis there. And Jenelles like we can do that. But obviously never has

I think he likes the stability of daycare. He knows what he will be doing every day and it's fun. Life with Janelle is likely exciting for the cameras and boring IRL. Day camp is probably fun every day. He knows Babs will pick him up and he will have dinner and bed. Routine and stability are so important for kids.

My thoughts as well. He probably has regular friends there, he knows the teachers, and they have fun structured activities for him, and probably no adults screaming at each other. Babs is great, but I'm sure she's stressed and that trickles down to Jace inevitably. Day camp is his escape, where it can be all about him. Sounds like when the cameras aren't there, Jace plays his XBox by himself or with Maryssa (although I think she's only there for the cameras, too). I was just thinking, has there been a time recently when Jenelle wasn't involved with a man that Jace would be old enough to remember? She was with Nathan for a while (in Jenelle-land), then she was battling with him, and now she's with Dave. so there's never really been a time when Jace could go to his mom's house, and just BE WITH HIS MOM. There's always somebody else taking up her time. No wonder he calls Babs Mommy. (Jenelle: Oh you mean Meme? Jace: sure whatever)

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Anonymous wrote:I love how sweet Jace is to Barbara. Breaks my heart at how sad he looks when Jenelle talks about keeping him and how he tells Jenelle he'll miss her if she doesn't take him back

Even sadder, he said he'd miss DAYCARE if he went with Janelle. He'd rather be institutionalized than spend time with his birth mother.

Yea. He said he gets to play tennis there. And Jenelles like we can do that. But obviously never has

I think he likes the stability of daycare. He knows what he will be doing every day and it's fun. Life with Janelle is likely exciting for the cameras and boring IRL. Day camp is probably fun every day. He knows Babs will pick him up and he will have dinner and bed. Routine and stability are so important for kids.

To be fair thats something my kid would say too about daycare. He loves it and would say just that if asked despite being in a stable nuclear family. I mean I dont have a butterfly garden, don't do shit for chinese new year, I dont have those bingo stompers, I dont read the books as well while holding the pictures outward, etc etc. These are all things my kid comments on when comparing daycare to myself LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Sigh, these names. Although Watson isn't terrible in the grand Teen Mom scheme...

Chelsea:
Aubree Skye Lind
Watson Cole DeBoer

Jenelle:
Jace Vahn Evans
Kaiser Orion Griffin
Ensley Jolie Eason

Leah:
Aliannah Hope Simms
Aleeah Grace Simms
Adalynn Faith Calvert

Kail:
Isaac Elliot Rivera
Lincoln Marshall Marroquin

Too many different last names, poor kids.

It's funny Kail's kids have the most normal names and the most dysfunctional mom!

That's so fitting for her though--she's so concerned with what others think. She said in one of the reunions or specials that their girl name for Isaac was a name she hated, but that Jo liked: Brooklyn. I could totally see her being judgey about baby names (How very DCUM of her!) She was all upset with Jo because he dressed Isaac "in a certain way" that didn't approve of (shoe tongues out was her example, sounds like she really meant that Jo dressed him like a mini-Jo, a little hip-hop kid), which is super judgmental of Jo's style. Of course, she also dressed Isaac in a certain way, but she thought her preppy way was better, so ti didn't matter if Jo's tastes were reflected.

Of the kids, only three were born within a marriage (Addalyn, Lincoln, and Watson), and two of those marriages are no more. Not saying you need to be married to have a child, but at least being in a long-term relationship helps!

For funsies, the Teen Mom OG names--
Maci:
Bentley Cadence Edwards
Jayde Carter McKinney
Maverick Reed McKinney

Amber:
Leah Leann Shirley

Farrah:
Sophia Laurent Abraham

Catelynn:
Novalee Reign Baltierra

Good thing Catelynn was there to step up with Nova, when the other girls decided on mostly normal names for their kids!

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Anonymous wrote:I love how sweet Jace is to Barbara. Breaks my heart at how sad he looks when Jenelle talks about keeping him and how he tells Jenelle he'll miss her if she doesn't take him back

Even sadder, he said he'd miss DAYCARE if he went with Janelle. He'd rather be institutionalized than spend time with his birth mother.

Yea. He said he gets to play tennis there. And Jenelles like we can do that. But obviously never has

I think he likes the stability of daycare. He knows what he will be doing every day and it's fun. Life with Janelle is likely exciting for the cameras and boring IRL. Day camp is probably fun every day. He knows Babs will pick him up and he will have dinner and bed. Routine and stability are so important for kids.

Anonymous wrote:Sigh, these names. Although Watson isn't terrible in the grand Teen Mom scheme...

Chelsea:
Aubree Skye Lind
Watson Cole DeBoer

Jenelle:
Jace Vahn Evans
Kaiser Orion Griffin
Ensley Jolie Eason

Leah:
Aliannah Hope Simms
Aleeah Grace Simms
Adalynn Faith Calvert

Kail:
Isaac Elliot Rivera
Lincoln Marshall Marroquin

Too many different last names, poor kids.

It's funny Kail's kids have the most normal names and the most dysfunctional mom!

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Anonymous wrote:I love how sweet Jace is to Barbara. Breaks my heart at how sad he looks when Jenelle talks about keeping him and how he tells Jenelle he'll miss her if she doesn't take him back

Even sadder, he said he'd miss DAYCARE if he went with Janelle. He'd rather be institutionalized than spend time with his birth mother.

Yea. He said he gets to play tennis there. And Jenelles like we can do that. But obviously never has

Anonymous wrote:I love how sweet Jace is to Barbara. Breaks my heart at how sad he looks when Jenelle talks about keeping him and how he tells Jenelle he'll miss her if she doesn't take him back

Even sadder, he said he'd miss DAYCARE if he went with Janelle. He'd rather be institutionalized than spend time with his birth mother.

I love how sweet Jace is to Barbara. Breaks my heart at how sad he looks when Jenelle talks about keeping him and how he tells Jenelle he'll miss her if she doesn't take him back

Anonymous wrote:Sigh, these names. Although Watson isn't terrible in the grand Teen Mom scheme...

Chelsea:
Aubree Skye Lind
Watson Cole DeBoer

Jenelle:
Jace Vahn Evans
Kaiser Orion Griffin
Ensley Jolie Eason

Leah:
Aliannah Hope Simms
Aleeah Grace Simms
Adalynn Faith Calvert

Kail:
Isaac Elliot Rivera
Lincoln Marshall Marroquin

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10 children from 4 mothers and only 2 are from the same dad (not due to a long relationship, but because they are twins). 2 out of ten were conceived during a marriage (Lincoln and Adalynn). One is already twice divorced. 2 of the four had drug issues and another one (Aub's dad) had drug issues. Two have mental health issues and 3 of four have had multiple men in and out of their kids' lives. Two have also had major custody issues.

These are women who are so young in these predicaments.