Anonymous
10/01/2025 16:28
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the government shut down? I got mail. It seems like a big nothingburger.
Got my SS check, Medicare and the planes are flying. The government does nothing. Shut it down and fire everyone!
So you are happy for what you got from the government but f*ck everyone else.
No food or healthcare for kids. No research. No parks. No weather forecasting.
Just like a republican.
DP. I'm tired of money getting taken out of my pay check for health insurance subsidies for complete strangers.
The HC industry is holding this country hostage. We spend 17% of GDP on HC. The next closest countries, Germany and the UK spend 10% to 11%.
Most other countries spend 6% to 7%. Why are we an outlier? There's practically no competition here. Just govt writing checks to pharma, hospitals and medical establishments. And people paying hefty friggin' premiums.
And democrats are right at the front of the line saying we need to spend more and more. Enough already.
lol under Trump healthcare will go up to 24% of GDP in a year. Get ready for healthcare rationing. Can’t wait for all those rural hospitals to shut down!
Oh and the only people I know on ACA are republicans and maga.
Anonymous
10/01/2025 16:27
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the government shut down? I got mail. It seems like a big nothingburger.
Got my SS check, Medicare and the planes are flying. The government does nothing. Shut it down and fire everyone!
So you are happy for what you got from the government but f*ck everyone else.
No food or healthcare for kids. No research. No parks. No weather forecasting.
Just like a republican.
DP. I'm tired of money getting taken out of my pay check for health insurance subsidies for complete strangers.
The HC industry is holding this country hostage. We spend 17% of GDP on HC. The next closest countries, Germany and the UK spend 10% to 11%.
Most other countries spend 6% to 7%. Why are we an outlier? There's practically no competition here. Just govt writing checks to pharma, hospitals and medical establishments. And people paying hefty friggin' premiums.
And democrats are right at the front of the line saying we need to spend more and more. Enough already.
I think we all agree that our healthcare system is a disaster. In the short term, we're all going to be paying more out of pocket if those subsidies are canceled.
Anonymous
10/01/2025 16:26
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GOP is defunding the police
Department of Homeland Security is cutting over $187 million or 86% of homeland security funding to New York State which will radically defund NYPD, FDNY, and NY State Police terrorism programs
This can't be.....all we hear is how MAGA is all about backing the blue. Do you get it MAGA fools. Trump is not here for you.
Those are blue police. MAGA does not support them. They are all leftists and Hamas!
NY is a sanctuary state. Cut their federal funding completely.
Anonymous
10/01/2025 16:24
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GOP is defunding the police
Department of Homeland Security is cutting over $187 million or 86% of homeland security funding to New York State which will radically defund NYPD, FDNY, and NY State Police terrorism programs
This can't be.....all we hear is how MAGA is all about backing the blue. Do you get it MAGA fools. Trump is not here for you.
Those are blue police. MAGA does not support them. They are all leftists and Hamas!
Anonymous
10/01/2025 16:10
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of us here have been through this a couple of times (or more). Congress always gets the blame. This is a very high risk strategy by the Dem leadership. I heard Chuck Schumer say the American people are on his side. I find that very hard to believe. If you’re going to fall on your sword it should be over something righteous. Free health care for illegal aliens, seriously?[/quote]
That is a lie.
Democrats released a budget proposal that seeks to extend Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies before they expire at the end of the year. The plan, put forward by Connecticut Representative Rosa DeLauro and Washington Senator Patty Murray, also includes a reversal of Medicaid cuts made earlier this year.
The proposal does not include free healthcare for illegal immigrants.
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said Monday that Republicans were misrepresenting the Democratic Party’s position.
“Federal law prohibits the expenditure of taxpayer dollars on providing healthcare to undocumented immigrants,” Jeffries told reporters. “Nowhere have democrats suggested that we are interested in changing federal law.
According to KFF, an organization that analyzes health policy in the U.S., under the Republicans’ 2025 Tax and Budget Law, 1.4 million lawfully present immigrants could lose health coverage.
The analysis refers to the Congressional Budget Office’s (CBO) own reporting, which said $131 billion could be saved by making it so that a smaller list of lawful immigrants is able to access Medicaid and CHIP. Among the immigrants set to lose access to health care plans are refugees and asylees, those paroled into the U.S., and those with Temporary Protected Status (TPS).
The BBB limited the scope of ACA subsidies to exclude these groups- who are here legally. Immigrant =/= illegal.
Wait. I was told illegal immigrants can't get govt healthcare. What's up with that?
Anonymous
10/01/2025 16:09
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the government shut down? I got mail. It seems like a big nothingburger.
Got my SS check, Medicare and the planes are flying. The government does nothing. Shut it down and fire everyone!
So you are happy for what you got from the government but f*ck everyone else.
No food or healthcare for kids. No research. No parks. No weather forecasting.
Just like a republican.
DP. I'm tired of money getting taken out of my pay check for health insurance subsidies for complete strangers.
The HC industry is holding this country hostage. We spend 17% of GDP on HC. The next closest countries, Germany and the UK spend 10% to 11%.
Most other countries spend 6% to 7%. Why are we an outlier? There's practically no competition here. Just govt writing checks to pharma, hospitals and medical establishments. And people paying hefty friggin' premiums.
And democrats are right at the front of the line saying we need to spend more and more. Enough already.
Anonymous
10/01/2025 15:50
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of us here have been through this a couple of times (or more). Congress always gets the blame. This is a very high risk strategy by the Dem leadership. I heard Chuck Schumer say the American people are on his side. I find that very hard to believe. If you’re going to fall on your sword it should be over something righteous. Free health care for illegal aliens, seriously?[/quote]
That is a lie.
Democrats released a budget proposal that seeks to extend Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies before they expire at the end of the year. The plan, put forward by Connecticut Representative Rosa DeLauro and Washington Senator Patty Murray, also includes a reversal of Medicaid cuts made earlier this year.
The proposal does not include free healthcare for illegal immigrants.
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said Monday that Republicans were misrepresenting the Democratic Party’s position.
“Federal law prohibits the expenditure of taxpayer dollars on providing healthcare to undocumented immigrants,” Jeffries told reporters. “Nowhere have democrats suggested that we are interested in changing federal law.
According to KFF, an organization that analyzes health policy in the U.S., under the Republicans’ 2025 Tax and Budget Law, 1.4 million lawfully present immigrants could lose health coverage.
The analysis refers to the Congressional Budget Office’s (CBO) own reporting, which said $131 billion could be saved by making it so that a smaller list of lawful immigrants is able to access Medicaid and CHIP. Among the immigrants set to lose access to health care plans are refugees and asylees, those paroled into the U.S., and those with Temporary Protected Status (TPS).
The BBB limited the scope of ACA subsidies to exclude these groups- who are here legally. Immigrant =/= illegal.
Just adding that this isnt the whole component Democrats are fighting for. Lots of rural and self-employed and others will lose ACA subsidies.
Those constituencies overwhelmingly vote MAGA. Give them what they voted for.
Anonymous
10/01/2025 15:48
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of us here have been through this a couple of times (or more). Congress always gets the blame. This is a very high risk strategy by the Dem leadership. I heard Chuck Schumer say the American people are on his side. I find that very hard to believe. If you’re going to fall on your sword it should be over something righteous. Free health care for illegal aliens, seriously?[/quote]
That is a lie.
Democrats released a budget proposal that seeks to extend Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies before they expire at the end of the year. The plan, put forward by Connecticut Representative Rosa DeLauro and Washington Senator Patty Murray, also includes a reversal of Medicaid cuts made earlier this year.
The proposal does not include free healthcare for illegal immigrants.
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said Monday that Republicans were misrepresenting the Democratic Party’s position.
“Federal law prohibits the expenditure of taxpayer dollars on providing healthcare to undocumented immigrants,” Jeffries told reporters. “Nowhere have democrats suggested that we are interested in changing federal law.
According to KFF, an organization that analyzes health policy in the U.S., under the Republicans’ 2025 Tax and Budget Law, 1.4 million lawfully present immigrants could lose health coverage.
The analysis refers to the Congressional Budget Office’s (CBO) own reporting, which said $131 billion could be saved by making it so that a smaller list of lawful immigrants is able to access Medicaid and CHIP. Among the immigrants set to lose access to health care plans are refugees and asylees, those paroled into the U.S., and those with Temporary Protected Status (TPS).
The BBB limited the scope of ACA subsidies to exclude these groups- who are here legally. Immigrant =/= illegal.
Just adding that this isnt the whole component Democrats are fighting for. Lots of rural and self-employed and others will lose ACA subsidies.
Anonymous
10/01/2025 15:48
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe finally something will be done once and for all to shrink the bloated nanny state and bleed dry the thousands of leeches around here -- the so-called "lobbyists, contractors and strategists" who've enriched themselves on the backs of taxpayers.
Hmm . . . They are still working.
Yep. This is the irony. Myself and my colleagues are still working. We are paid by the government but aren't feds. It's the way and sequence in which contracts are awarded, which year's budget the money comes from. The feds who are furloughed will also get paid, despite not having worked. No money is saved and in fact a shutdown incurs additional costs. You do not get to pay less taxes as a result of a shutdown. You only get less services.
Anonymous
10/01/2025 15:47
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Many of us here have been through this a couple of times (or more). Congress always gets the blame. This is a very high risk strategy by the Dem leadership. I heard Chuck Schumer say the American people are on his side. I find that very hard to believe. If you’re going to fall on your sword it should be over something righteous. Free health care for illegal aliens, seriously?[/quote]
That is a lie.
Democrats released a budget proposal that seeks to extend Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies before they expire at the end of the year. The plan, put forward by Connecticut Representative Rosa DeLauro and Washington Senator Patty Murray, also includes a reversal of Medicaid cuts made earlier this year.
The proposal does not include free healthcare for illegal immigrants.
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said Monday that Republicans were misrepresenting the Democratic Party’s position.
“Federal law prohibits the expenditure of taxpayer dollars on providing healthcare to undocumented immigrants,” Jeffries told reporters. “Nowhere have democrats suggested that we are interested in changing federal law.
According to KFF, an organization that analyzes health policy in the U.S., under the Republicans’ 2025 Tax and Budget Law, 1.4 million lawfully present immigrants could lose health coverage.
The analysis refers to the Congressional Budget Office’s (CBO) own reporting, which said $131 billion could be saved by making it so that a smaller list of lawful immigrants is able to access Medicaid and CHIP. Among the immigrants set to lose access to health care plans are refugees and asylees, those paroled into the U.S., and those with Temporary Protected Status (TPS).
The BBB limited the scope of ACA subsidies to exclude these groups- who are here legally. Immigrant =/= illegal.
Anonymous
10/01/2025 15:44
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of us here have been through this a couple of times (or more). Congress always gets the blame. This is a very high risk strategy by the Dem leadership. I heard Chuck Schumer say the American people are on his side. I find that very hard to believe. If you’re going to fall on your sword it should be over something righteous. Free health care for illegal aliens, seriously?
And who controls both houses of congress?
? 60 votes is required in the Senate to pass CR. The Repubs got 55, they only have a bare majority in the Senate.
Anonymous
10/01/2025 15:42
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Maybe finally something will be done once and for all to shrink the bloated nanny state and bleed dry the thousands of leeches around here -- the so-called "lobbyists, contractors and strategists" who've enriched themselves on the backs of taxpayers.
Hmm . . . They are still working.
Anonymous
10/01/2025 15:36
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Maybe finally something will be done once and for all to shrink the bloated nanny state and bleed dry the thousands of leeches around here -- the so-called "lobbyists, contractors and strategists" who've enriched themselves on the backs of taxpayers.
Anonymous
10/01/2025 15:34
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the government shut down? I got mail. It seems like a big nothingburger.
Got my SS check, Medicare and the planes are flying. The government does nothing. Shut it down and fire everyone!
I can’t tell if this is supposed to be satire? In case PP meant it genuinely…
You do realize that Social Security, Medicare, and the air travel system are FROM THE GOVERNMENT, right? The reason they’re still continuing is because there are exceptions in the shutdown. But they’re still government services.
Anonymous
10/01/2025 15:31
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the government shut down? I got mail. It seems like a big nothingburger.
Got my SS check, Medicare and the planes are flying. The government does nothing. Shut it down and fire everyone!
So you are happy for what you got from the government but f*ck everyone else.
No food or healthcare for kids. No research. No parks. No weather forecasting.
Just like a republican.