Anonymous wrote:Why are we suddenly talking about NM and ML like they’re coaching gods worth following? For years, there have been constant complaints about NM’s “coaching style”…err yelling, his conflicts of interest (which everyone, defectors included used to gripe about), and his massive rosters (30+ players on his 2009 team last season). But now he’s supposedly the next Pep Guardiola?

And ML…his “big” accomplishment is inheriting a stacked 2010 team and riding it on cruise control to the playoffs each year. Even then, he never advanced past group stage two years in a row and managed to take a 10–0 loss in the postseason, which this very forum chalked up to his lack of coaching ability. Was it his amazing coaching or the Brave/FVU merger that got him over the line this year? Make up your mind, because prior to all this some of the new BSC parents were touting the fact that the influx of 6 brave players made a “super team”

But suddenly these two are so great that parents are willing to abandon the team they just went to the final 8 with? Makes total sense. Go ahead and tell everyone NM and ML’s “development” were the real reason you left, definitely not the promises and glossy sales pitch they dangled in front of you the last three months.

Overnight, the “stench” of FVU became too much to handle but if your supposed coaching gods NM and ML hadn’t been canned, would you still be shouting “Go FVU” from the sidelines this season? Guaranteed. So i guess it wasn’t the crap show that is FVU after all.

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Anonymous wrote:Were any of the girls leaving starters?

All are starters except for the #2 goalie, and its a grand total of 5 players. Only one is irreplaceable. Roster is at 15 now , FVU will be just fine. #1 goalie gets full games now, roster will grow to 18 but stays slim which parents love especially in recruitment years. This may be addition by subraction...as long as everyone stays healthy. On the flipisde I heard there were 2 ACLs injuries in that group of 15 left. So who knows?

Wrong! Only 3 players have requested player cards to leave to BSC, but none have been released by ECNL with the recruitment violations now exposed and false information provided to these families by BSC. There might now be reconsideration by a couple. There were also 2 unregistered players being recruited, but 1 has already committed to FVU, the other is still deciding. 2 forwards declined BSC to remain at FVU.

No dog in fight and don't know any of the initials being talked about. But this above is why this always seemed stupid to me. Its after July 1, so FVU would have to release players to allow them to join another ECNL club within 50 miles. Maybe you go after 1 or 2 and get lucky, but once you go after eight there's no chance FVU is going to let any of them go. Strategically stupid.

It's August 1 for the new season. July was playoffs. So they wanted to play in playoffs and then leave.

Lies! More than a few had no plan or intention to leave at all, until they got the calls from the new BSC coaches. In fact, their initial reaction was shock and despair that the team could be breaking apart as leaving was never their intention. But the manipulation, hard sell and promises worked on them.

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hilarious. 42 pages and still going. End of the day NM and ML got fired, took around 10 players from various age groups across the river whether on true or false pretenses and FVU is left wondering how that happened.

FVU leadership was arrogant enough to think firing 3 out of their 4 McLean coaches would come with no repercussions, but they will live on in some way, wether it’s ECNL or go back to VYS.

We just witnessed the end of a pretty damn good team FVU 2010’s whom will never be the same. We played them every year and will miss that level of competitiveness…from a VDA parent.

Oh well. Just another Friday in DMV youth soccer I guess.

Let’s see what 2026 brings us, if it’s anything like the last 4 years, it’s gonna be exciting and drama filled.

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Anonymous wrote:Were any of the girls leaving starters?

All are starters except for the #2 goalie, and its a grand total of 5 players. Only one is irreplaceable. Roster is at 15 now , FVU will be just fine. #1 goalie gets full games now, roster will grow to 18 but stays slim which parents love especially in recruitment years. This may be addition by subraction...as long as everyone stays healthy. On the flipisde I heard there were 2 ACLs injuries in that group of 15 left. So who knows?

Wrong! Only 3 players have requested player cards to leave to BSC, but none have been released by ECNL with the recruitment violations now exposed and false information provided to these families by BSC. There might now be reconsideration by a couple. There were also 2 unregistered players being recruited, but 1 has already committed to FVU, the other is still deciding. 2 forwards declined BSC to remain at FVU.

No dog in fight and don't know any of the initials being talked about. But this above is why this always seemed stupid to me. Its after July 1, so FVU would have to release players to allow them to join another ECNL club within 50 miles. Maybe you go after 1 or 2 and get lucky, but once you go after eight there's no chance FVU is going to let any of them go. Strategically stupid.

It's August 1 for the new season. July was playoffs. So they wanted to play in playoffs and then leave.

Anonymous wrote:Why are we suddenly talking about NM and ML like they’re coaching gods worth following? For years, there have been constant complaints about NM’s “coaching style”…err yelling, his conflicts of interest (which everyone, defectors included used to gripe about), and his massive rosters (30+ players on his 2009 team last season). But now he’s supposedly the next Pep Guardiola?

And ML…his “big” accomplishment is inheriting a stacked 2010 team and riding it on cruise control to the playoffs each year. Even then, he never advanced past group stage two years in a row and managed to take a 10–0 loss in the postseason, which this very forum chalked up to his lack of coaching ability. Was it his amazing coaching or the Brave/FVU merger that got him over the line this year? Make up your mind, because prior to all this some of the new BSC parents were touting the fact that the influx of 6 brave players made a “super team”

But suddenly these two are so great that parents are willing to abandon the team they just went to the final 8 with? Makes total sense. Go ahead and tell everyone NM and ML’s “development” were the real reason you left, definitely not the promises and glossy sales pitch they dangled in front of you the last three months.

Overnight, the “stench” of FVU became too much to handle but if your supposed coaching gods NM and ML hadn’t been canned, would you still be shouting “Go FVU” from the sidelines this season? Guaranteed. So i guess it wasn’t the crap show that is FVU after all.

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Anonymous wrote:What is this saga about? It is a pay to play system. If I used to go to Golds Gym and decided to switch to orange theory, will Golds Gym sue me? Worst case I lose my payments. Parents can move their kids anywhere, there are no professional contracts between parents and clubs. Why are we treating a bunch of kids like Pros?? This board is crazy.

You're oversimplifying it.
The kids shouldn't be punished, they should be able to switch clubs. But when coaches carve up three age groups in a club purposefully, while being paid by said club, months past tryouts dates, recruiting them heavy during Nationals (and before for some) and while players had already accepted offers - it sets a an uneasy precedent financially and morally - which is DMV soccer for a decade. Good luck to those moving forward and club directors beware, it's the wild west now.

Actually you are oversimplifying it.
This whole debacle is on FVU. If the parents had a choice on who the coaches would have been for the 3 age groups, almost all would have picked the 3 coaches at Bethesda and all the players would have stayed. Instead FVU did not listen to us parents as many of us called and even did a petition.

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Anonymous wrote:Were any of the girls leaving starters?

All are starters except for the #2 goalie, and its a grand total of 5 players. Only one is irreplaceable. Roster is at 15 now , FVU will be just fine. #1 goalie gets full games now, roster will grow to 18 but stays slim which parents love especially in recruitment years. This may be addition by subraction...as long as everyone stays healthy. On the flipisde I heard there were 2 ACLs injuries in that group of 15 left. So who knows?

Wrong! Only 3 players have requested player cards to leave to BSC, but none have been released by ECNL with the recruitment violations now exposed and false information provided to these families by BSC. There might now be reconsideration by a couple. There were also 2 unregistered players being recruited, but 1 has already committed to FVU, the other is still deciding. 2 forwards declined BSC to remain at FVU.

No dog in fight and don't know any of the initials being talked about. But this above is why this always seemed stupid to me. Its after July 1, so FVU would have to release players to allow them to join another ECNL club within 50 miles. Maybe you go after 1 or 2 and get lucky, but once you go after eight there's no chance FVU is going to let any of them go. Strategically stupid.

It's August 1 for the new season. July was playoffs. So they wanted to play in playoffs and then leave.

Like any rational person. They were part of the reason that team made playoffs and any good club would have sent them whether they were leaving or not. Especially since you pay dues through the end of July.

How would it have changed anything for FVU if the players told them they were leaving in May? It would have created a divide on the team for playoffs and likely would have got FVU to remove our coaches.

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Anonymous wrote:Were any of the girls leaving starters?

All are starters except for the #2 goalie, and its a grand total of 5 players. Only one is irreplaceable. Roster is at 15 now , FVU will be just fine. #1 goalie gets full games now, roster will grow to 18 but stays slim which parents love especially in recruitment years. This may be addition by subraction...as long as everyone stays healthy. On the flipisde I heard there were 2 ACLs injuries in that group of 15 left. So who knows?

Wrong! Only 3 players have requested player cards to leave to BSC, but none have been released by ECNL with the recruitment violations now exposed and false information provided to these families by BSC. There might now be reconsideration by a couple. There were also 2 unregistered players being recruited, but 1 has already committed to FVU, the other is still deciding. 2 forwards declined BSC to remain at FVU.

No dog in fight and don't know any of the initials being talked about. But this above is why this always seemed stupid to me. Its after July 1, so FVU would have to release players to allow them to join another ECNL club within 50 miles. Maybe you go after 1 or 2 and get lucky, but once you go after eight there's no chance FVU is going to let any of them go. Strategically stupid.

It's August 1 for the new season. July was playoffs. So they wanted to play in playoffs and then leave.

Like any rational person. They were part of the reason that team made playoffs and any good club would have sent them whether they were leaving or not. Especially since you pay dues through the end of July.

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Anonymous wrote:Were any of the girls leaving starters?

All are starters except for the #2 goalie, and its a grand total of 5 players. Only one is irreplaceable. Roster is at 15 now , FVU will be just fine. #1 goalie gets full games now, roster will grow to 18 but stays slim which parents love especially in recruitment years. This may be addition by subraction...as long as everyone stays healthy. On the flipisde I heard there were 2 ACLs injuries in that group of 15 left. So who knows?

Wrong! Only 3 players have requested player cards to leave to BSC, but none have been released by ECNL with the recruitment violations now exposed and false information provided to these families by BSC. There might now be reconsideration by a couple. There were also 2 unregistered players being recruited, but 1 has already committed to FVU, the other is still deciding. 2 forwards declined BSC to remain at FVU.

No dog in fight and don't know any of the initials being talked about. But this above is why this always seemed stupid to me. Its after July 1, so FVU would have to release players to allow them to join another ECNL club within 50 miles. Maybe you go after 1 or 2 and get lucky, but once you go after eight there's no chance FVU is going to let any of them go. Strategically stupid.

It's August 1 for the new season. July was playoffs. So they wanted to play in playoffs and then leave.

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Anonymous wrote:Were any of the girls leaving starters?

All are starters except for the #2 goalie, and its a grand total of 5 players. Only one is irreplaceable. Roster is at 15 now , FVU will be just fine. #1 goalie gets full games now, roster will grow to 18 but stays slim which parents love especially in recruitment years. This may be addition by subraction...as long as everyone stays healthy. On the flipisde I heard there were 2 ACLs injuries in that group of 15 left. So who knows?

Wrong! Only 3 players have requested player cards to leave to BSC, but none have been released by ECNL with the recruitment violations now exposed and false information provided to these families by BSC. There might now be reconsideration by a couple. There were also 2 unregistered players being recruited, but 1 has already committed to FVU, the other is still deciding. 2 forwards declined BSC to remain at FVU.

No dog in fight and don't know any of the initials being talked about. But this above is why this always seemed stupid to me. Its after July 1, so FVU would have to release players to allow them to join another ECNL club within 50 miles. Maybe you go after 1 or 2 and get lucky, but once you go after eight there's no chance FVU is going to let any of them go. Strategically stupid.

Anonymous wrote:Why are we suddenly talking about NM and ML like they’re coaching gods worth following? For years, there have been constant complaints about NM’s “coaching style”…err yelling, his conflicts of interest (which everyone, defectors included used to gripe about), and his massive rosters (30+ players on his 2009 team last season). But now he’s supposedly the next Pep Guardiola?

And ML…his “big” accomplishment is inheriting a stacked 2010 team and riding it on cruise control to the playoffs each year. Even then, he never advanced past group stage two years in a row and managed to take a 10–0 loss in the postseason, which this very forum chalked up to his lack of coaching ability. Was it his amazing coaching or the Brave/FVU merger that got him over the line this year? Make up your mind, because prior to all this some of the new BSC parents were touting the fact that the influx of 6 brave players made a “super team”

But suddenly these two are so great that parents are willing to abandon the team they just went to the final 8 with? Makes total sense. Go ahead and tell everyone NM and ML’s “development” were the real reason you left, definitely not the promises and glossy sales pitch they dangled in front of you the last three months.

Overnight, the “stench” of FVU became too much to handle but if your supposed coaching gods NM and ML hadn’t been canned, would you still be shouting “Go FVU” from the sidelines this season? Guaranteed. So i guess it wasn’t the crap show that is FVU after all.

Anonymous wrote:Why are we suddenly talking about NM and ML like they’re coaching gods worth following? For years, there have been constant complaints about NM’s “coaching style”…err yelling, his conflicts of interest (which everyone, defectors included used to gripe about), and his massive rosters (30+ players on his 2009 team last season). But now he’s supposedly the next Pep Guardiola?

And ML…his “big” accomplishment is inheriting a stacked 2010 team and riding it on cruise control to the playoffs each year. Even then, he never advanced past group stage two years in a row and managed to take a 10–0 loss in the postseason, which this very forum chalked up to his lack of coaching ability. Was it his amazing coaching or the Brave/FVU merger that got him over the line this year? Make up your mind, because prior to all this some of the new BSC parents were touting the fact that the influx of 6 brave players made a “super team”

But suddenly these two are so great that parents are willing to abandon the team they just went to the final 8 with? Makes total sense. Go ahead and tell everyone NM and ML’s “development” were the real reason you left, definitely not the promises and glossy sales pitch they dangled in front of you the last three months.

Overnight, the “stench” of FVU became too much to handle but if your supposed coaching gods NM and ML hadn’t been canned, would you still be shouting “Go FVU” from the sidelines this season? Guaranteed. So i guess it wasn’t the crap show that is FVU after all.

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Anonymous wrote:The FVU transfers will be fine its everyone else who has not been in communication with NM that will get a raw deal. NM burns bridges where ver he goes. If KL thinks he can control him, hes up for a rude awakening. This is NM's team good luck to all, hes the best right? Lets see cause this is a hot mess of a team with too many players at the same positions and parent egos who understandibly at u16 will have no patience for their child to ride the pine

Existing BSC 10s are the Coke, FVU 10s imports are the mentos!

Can I get a XXL bag of popcorn for this show please???

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And BSC players will soon find out about the B (developmental) team that their new coaches are introducing. The incoming teammates know all about it .. it's the plan for the many BSC players they will be edging out.

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Anonymous wrote:The FVU transfers will be fine its everyone else who has not been in communication with NM that will get a raw deal. NM burns bridges where ver he goes. If KL thinks he can control him, hes up for a rude awakening. This is NM's team good luck to all, hes the best right? Lets see cause this is a hot mess of a team with too many players at the same positions and parent egos who understandibly at u16 will have no patience for their child to ride the pine

Existing BSC 10s are the Coke, FVU 10s imports are the mentos!

Can I get a XXL bag of popcorn for this show please???