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Anonymous wrote:Female veteran who now works with crime victims. Trump voter. I don’t think women should be in combat. I 1000% do not think this amoral clown should be SECDEF.

I think one of the things that bothers me most about the pick is that it appears to just be about Trump thumbing his nose at Biden. Hegseth was removed from the National Guard detail for Biden's inauguration due to reports that he held beliefs consistent with January 6th insurectionists (and sensitivity to that was at it's peak in the planning for Biden's inauguration). Hegseth wrote a book in which he claims that he was removed due to his Christian faith (which is laughable -- I guarantee that most if not all of the people who made that decision are devout Christians). So Trump pics Hegseth as a repudiation of all of it -- the concern over J6, the effort to protect Biden at a time when threat of political violence was very high, and the false claim that Hegseth was discriminated against as a Christian.

It has absolutely nothing with choosing a SECDEF who will do a good job at the Pentagon. Nothing to do with leadership credentials or even how much he aligns politically with Trump. It's entirely about Trump using this nomination to settle scores. Just like Gaetz. An embarassment.

I agree with your assessment 100% but where was all this appropriate and warranted scrutiny when you people were electing 80 year old unfit people during the past two elections? You think the SECDEF position is deserving of more candidate vetting than POTUS? Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. Especially given the fact that you can actually choose not to vote for unfit POTUS candidates where as confirmation of cabinet members is out of voter control.

DP. The parties used to be gatekeepers for candidates. But they stopped because "that is undemocratic". Now whoever voters vote for must be the right pick. Are we beginning to see the error of getting rid of gatekeepers? Or not yet?

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Anonymous wrote:Female veteran who now works with crime victims. Trump voter. I don’t think women should be in combat. I 1000% do not think this amoral clown should be SECDEF.

I think one of the things that bothers me most about the pick is that it appears to just be about Trump thumbing his nose at Biden. Hegseth was removed from the National Guard detail for Biden's inauguration due to reports that he held beliefs consistent with January 6th insurectionists (and sensitivity to that was at it's peak in the planning for Biden's inauguration). Hegseth wrote a book in which he claims that he was removed due to his Christian faith (which is laughable -- I guarantee that most if not all of the people who made that decision are devout Christians). So Trump pics Hegseth as a repudiation of all of it -- the concern over J6, the effort to protect Biden at a time when threat of political violence was very high, and the false claim that Hegseth was discriminated against as a Christian.

It has absolutely nothing with choosing a SECDEF who will do a good job at the Pentagon. Nothing to do with leadership credentials or even how much he aligns politically with Trump. It's entirely about Trump using this nomination to settle scores. Just like Gaetz. An embarassment.

I agree with your assessment 100% but where was all this appropriate and warranted scrutiny when you people were electing 80 year old unfit people during the past two elections? You think the SECDEF position is deserving of more candidate vetting than POTUS? Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. Especially given the fact that you can actually choose not to vote for unfit POTUS candidates where as confirmation of cabinet members is out of voter control.

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Anonymous wrote:Female veteran who now works with crime victims. Trump voter. I don’t think women should be in combat. I 1000% do not think this amoral clown should be SECDEF.

I think one of the things that bothers me most about the pick is that it appears to just be about Trump thumbing his nose at Biden. Hegseth was removed from the National Guard detail for Biden's inauguration due to reports that he held beliefs consistent with January 6th insurectionists (and sensitivity to that was at it's peak in the planning for Biden's inauguration). Hegseth wrote a book in which he claims that he was removed due to his Christian faith (which is laughable -- I guarantee that most if not all of the people who made that decision are devout Christians). So Trump pics Hegseth as a repudiation of all of it -- the concern over J6, the effort to protect Biden at a time when threat of political violence was very high, and the false claim that Hegseth was discriminated against as a Christian.

It has absolutely nothing with choosing a SECDEF who will do a good job at the Pentagon. Nothing to do with leadership credentials or even how much he aligns politically with Trump. It's entirely about Trump using this nomination to settle scores. Just like Gaetz. An embarassment.

Anonymous wrote:Female veteran who now works with crime victims. Trump voter. I don’t think women should be in combat. I 1000% do not think this amoral clown should be SECDEF.

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Anonymous wrote:Not that MAGA cares or anything, but because of their emphasis on family values, I think it’s interesting to note that he’s on his third wife, like Trump. The third wife was his affair partner while he was married to the second wife.

Yes, not that I care or anything.

Biden had three children, two of which turned out to be drug addicted.

Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, slaps women.


Get off the cross. We need the wood.

DP. Thank you. So sick of sanctimonious liberals who pretend to be pious and holier-than-thou, all while peddling their own complete sh!tshow - one that the nation has rejected soundly.

DP. Are you unfamiliar with the military? They actually have rules about all of this stuff - the Secretary of Defense should know about them and follow them, right?

The only time I’ve seen a service member punished for an affair under UCMJ was if the affair partner was another service member’s spouse (makes for some hard feelings at work!) or if the affair partner was also a service member and it was fraternization, or if the affair comprised their duty/mission/security.

A National Gaurd solider having an affair with a civilian is unlikely to be prosecuted, which is exactly why he wasn’t.

They don’t necessarily get punished under UCMJ, but they do get sidelined. And the stigma that comes with making bad decisions follows them professionally. It’s going to require some serious acting skills for the JCS to pretend to respect this guy.

Oh, please. Absolutely no doubt plenty of these people have their own skeletons.
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Yeah, there are likely more affair partners of senate members than there are of members themselves, if you totaled them up.

According to many DCUM posters, affairs and babies born to single mothers are no big deal.

For the millionth time, there are actually rules about this in the military. And consequences. I get that only 1% serve, but the fact that the military has different rules than the rest of the population is pretty elementary.

Spare me. Plenty of higher up military officers engage in affairs.

Maybe that's the excuse your father or husband told you, but it's not an excuse to have an affair.

I'm not morally against infidelity. I don't care who people sleep with, as long as I don't have to watch or clean up after, but being a serial cheater shows some really poor impulse control, and probably a lack of empathy for your wives and kids. Do you think it's easy for those children? What kind of man is so weak he'd do that to kids?

Whatever, you say? Men do that all the time?

Can't we find one who doesn't flunk the marshmallow test to be in charge of our military?

PP here. You're preaching to the choir. I'm just saying that I'm not buying that milirary higher ups don't engage in affairs. I don't approve of adultery. Ever.

No one has said that they don’t. We said they get passed over for leadership positions or lose them if people find out.

If you can’t control yourself and live by rules and commitments, why should people trust you and look up to you as a leader when their lives depend on your decisions?

I agree with all you said, except their being passed over or losing their leadership positions.

You personally disagree with the military on this? Or you don’t believe this happens? It’s ended two careers I know of personally. It’s called “conduct unbecoming.”

There are plenty of hard working people in the military. If your personal behavior is a liability, there are others ready and eager to step in your place. Everyone reports to someone and those people have enough to deal with without your personal drama causing more issues for therm.

Exactly this. But Hedgseth’s case is a lot more serious than mere cheating. The SA charge in Monterey Bay involved the police, payouts and an NDA. He would never pass top level security clearance in normal circumstances. Plus the army suspects him of being a white nationalist bc of his tattoos. That’s why he was removed from service in Washington

he can have any tattoos he wants. Got it? That's not important to me.

He's outside the Pentagon. That is important.

Where does Lloyd Austin come from? Raytheon.

Really? He can have any tattoos he wants? Even a swastika? Genuine question. I know this is the case for some people but generally they hide it a little better.

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Anonymous wrote:Not that MAGA cares or anything, but because of their emphasis on family values, I think it’s interesting to note that he’s on his third wife, like Trump. The third wife was his affair partner while he was married to the second wife.

Yes, not that I care or anything.

Biden had three children, two of which turned out to be drug addicted.

Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, slaps women.


Get off the cross. We need the wood.

DP. Thank you. So sick of sanctimonious liberals who pretend to be pious and holier-than-thou, all while peddling their own complete sh!tshow - one that the nation has rejected soundly.

DP. Are you unfamiliar with the military? They actually have rules about all of this stuff - the Secretary of Defense should know about them and follow them, right?

The only time I’ve seen a service member punished for an affair under UCMJ was if the affair partner was another service member’s spouse (makes for some hard feelings at work!) or if the affair partner was also a service member and it was fraternization, or if the affair comprised their duty/mission/security.

A National Gaurd solider having an affair with a civilian is unlikely to be prosecuted, which is exactly why he wasn’t.

They don’t necessarily get punished under UCMJ, but they do get sidelined. And the stigma that comes with making bad decisions follows them professionally. It’s going to require some serious acting skills for the JCS to pretend to respect this guy.

Oh, please. Absolutely no doubt plenty of these people have their own skeletons.
DP

Yeah, there are likely more affair partners of senate members than there are of members themselves, if you totaled them up.

According to many DCUM posters, affairs and babies born to single mothers are no big deal.

For the millionth time, there are actually rules about this in the military. And consequences. I get that only 1% serve, but the fact that the military has different rules than the rest of the population is pretty elementary.

Spare me. Plenty of higher up military officers engage in affairs.

Maybe that's the excuse your father or husband told you, but it's not an excuse to have an affair.

I'm not morally against infidelity. I don't care who people sleep with, as long as I don't have to watch or clean up after, but being a serial cheater shows some really poor impulse control, and probably a lack of empathy for your wives and kids. Do you think it's easy for those children? What kind of man is so weak he'd do that to kids?

Whatever, you say? Men do that all the time?

Can't we find one who doesn't flunk the marshmallow test to be in charge of our military?

PP here. You're preaching to the choir. I'm just saying that I'm not buying that milirary higher ups don't engage in affairs. I don't approve of adultery. Ever.

No one has said that they don’t. We said they get passed over for leadership positions or lose them if people find out.

If you can’t control yourself and live by rules and commitments, why should people trust you and look up to you as a leader when their lives depend on your decisions?

I agree with all you said, except their being passed over or losing their leadership positions.

You personally disagree with the military on this? Or you don’t believe this happens? It’s ended two careers I know of personally. It’s called “conduct unbecoming.”

There are plenty of hard working people in the military. If your personal behavior is a liability, there are others ready and eager to step in your place. Everyone reports to someone and those people have enough to deal with without your personal drama causing more issues for therm.

Exactly this. But Hedgseth’s case is a lot more serious than mere cheating. The SA charge in Monterey Bay involved the police, payouts and an NDA. He would never pass top level security clearance in normal circumstances. Plus the army suspects him of being a white nationalist bc of his tattoos. That’s why he was removed from service in Washington

he can have any tattoos he wants. Got it? That's not important to me.

He's outside the Pentagon. That is important.

Where does Lloyd Austin come from? Raytheon.

Really? He can have any tattoos he wants? Even a swastika? Genuine question. I know this is the case for some people but generally they hide it a little better.

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Anonymous wrote:Not that MAGA cares or anything, but because of their emphasis on family values, I think it’s interesting to note that he’s on his third wife, like Trump. The third wife was his affair partner while he was married to the second wife.

Yes, not that I care or anything.

Biden had three children, two of which turned out to be drug addicted.

Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, slaps women.


Get off the cross. We need the wood.

DP. Thank you. So sick of sanctimonious liberals who pretend to be pious and holier-than-thou, all while peddling their own complete sh!tshow - one that the nation has rejected soundly.

DP. Are you unfamiliar with the military? They actually have rules about all of this stuff - the Secretary of Defense should know about them and follow them, right?

The only time I’ve seen a service member punished for an affair under UCMJ was if the affair partner was another service member’s spouse (makes for some hard feelings at work!) or if the affair partner was also a service member and it was fraternization, or if the affair comprised their duty/mission/security.

A National Gaurd solider having an affair with a civilian is unlikely to be prosecuted, which is exactly why he wasn’t.

They don’t necessarily get punished under UCMJ, but they do get sidelined. And the stigma that comes with making bad decisions follows them professionally. It’s going to require some serious acting skills for the JCS to pretend to respect this guy.

Oh, please. Absolutely no doubt plenty of these people have their own skeletons.
DP

Yeah, there are likely more affair partners of senate members than there are of members themselves, if you totaled them up.

According to many DCUM posters, affairs and babies born to single mothers are no big deal.

For the millionth time, there are actually rules about this in the military. And consequences. I get that only 1% serve, but the fact that the military has different rules than the rest of the population is pretty elementary.

Spare me. Plenty of higher up military officers engage in affairs.

Maybe that's the excuse your father or husband told you, but it's not an excuse to have an affair.

I'm not morally against infidelity. I don't care who people sleep with, as long as I don't have to watch or clean up after, but being a serial cheater shows some really poor impulse control, and probably a lack of empathy for your wives and kids. Do you think it's easy for those children? What kind of man is so weak he'd do that to kids?

Whatever, you say? Men do that all the time?

Can't we find one who doesn't flunk the marshmallow test to be in charge of our military?

PP here. You're preaching to the choir. I'm just saying that I'm not buying that milirary higher ups don't engage in affairs. I don't approve of adultery. Ever.

No one has said that they don’t. We said they get passed over for leadership positions or lose them if people find out.

If you can’t control yourself and live by rules and commitments, why should people trust you and look up to you as a leader when their lives depend on your decisions?

I agree with all you said, except their being passed over or losing their leadership positions.

You personally disagree with the military on this? Or you don’t believe this happens? It’s ended two careers I know of personally. It’s called “conduct unbecoming.”

There are plenty of hard working people in the military. If your personal behavior is a liability, there are others ready and eager to step in your place. Everyone reports to someone and those people have enough to deal with without your personal drama causing more issues for therm.

Exactly this. But Hedgseth’s case is a lot more serious than mere cheating. The SA charge in Monterey Bay involved the police, payouts and an NDA. He would never pass top level security clearance in normal circumstances. Plus the army suspects him of being a white nationalist bc of his tattoos. That’s why he was removed from service in Washington

he can have any tattoos he wants. Got it? That's not important to me.

He's outside the Pentagon. That is important.

Where does Lloyd Austin come from? Raytheon.

Anonymous wrote:So from what I read he appears to be a Nazi sympathizer and I really am having trouble understanding why all of these Nazis who hate Jews are also so pro-israel. Or at least back a man who is because Trump is standing with Israel and wants Gaza wiped off the map. So I really do not understand this marriage situation they have going on

Anonymous wrote:Female veteran who now works with crime victims. Trump voter. I don’t think women should be in combat. I 1000% do not think this amoral clown should be SECDEF.

Anonymous wrote:So from what I read he appears to be a Nazi sympathizer and I really am having trouble understanding why all of these Nazis who hate Jews are also so pro-israel. Or at least back a man who is because Trump is standing with Israel and wants Gaza wiped off the map. So I really do not understand this marriage situation they have going on