Anonymous
12/26/2023 09:31
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People need to get vaccinated. It is the holiday season. Stop the spread for heaven's sake!
The CDC doesn't claim that the booster stops spread/transmission. They only say that it helps protect against serious illness. (Which is very rare anyhow for healthy people post-Omicron.) https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/stay-up-to-date.html
If it's not stopping transmission I see no reason to keep taking it when we don't know the long term impact of the boosters. And, covid is far less serious so basic precautions such as masking and handwashing are probably equally effective. More effective is people staying home when sick.
What about asymptomatic carriers??????
Ok, and?
Vaccination prevents covid and thus asymptomatic carriers would be included.
Anonymous
12/26/2023 08:41
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
“In new news at 10: human beings become sickened from micro organisms. Everyone panic”
Anonymous
12/26/2023 08:12
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Covid is over dontcha know.
Yes, as much as it ever will be. Kind of like influenza, colds, RSV, etc.
Anonymous
12/26/2023 07:27
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Covid is over dontcha know.
Anonymous
12/26/2023 07:26
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sadly, an old friend down south was sick but of course went ahead and attended her extended family get together earlier in Dec. Now her elderly dad is in the hospital, and most of her family is sick as well, preparing to give it to their coworkers.
It's hard to believe adults can't be responsible and stay home if they are sick, or at least wear a decent mask.
My parent had the booster and a few weeks after getting it, got covid and a few weeks after that died. Someone at the assisted living that they ate with had it and spread it.
So the booster was super effective? And you wonder why people aren’t getting it.
I think it’s worthless. I debated it for my kids but decided against it.
I've had numerous covid shots and boosters. I just got Covid on the 23. I'm sorry I took all of those shots. If it does not prevent the disease, why take these shots.
Anonymous
12/26/2023 07:16
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People need to get vaccinated. It is the holiday season. Stop the spread for heaven's sake!
The CDC doesn't claim that the booster stops spread/transmission. They only say that it helps protect against serious illness. (Which is very rare anyhow for healthy people post-Omicron.) https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/stay-up-to-date.html
If it's not stopping transmission I see no reason to keep taking it when we don't know the long term impact of the boosters. And, covid is far less serious so basic precautions such as masking and handwashing are probably equally effective. More effective is people staying home when sick.
What about asymptomatic carriers??????
Ok, and?
Shut down. Shut down. Shut down.
Anonymous
12/26/2023 07:15
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“ COVID-19 levels high ahead of holiday travel season..”
Oh no…
Virginia in particular is “very high”
https://www.axios.com/2023/12/19/covid-levels-cases-holiday-state-map
This article is citing CDC wastewater data from the week of 12/2. The CDC is currently showing wastewater data for thru 12/16 and VA is "high", not "very high". https://www.cdc.gov/nwss/rv/COVID19-currentlevels.html Seeing higher wastewater readings in December is not surprising as covid cases rise each winter. However, there may also be other factors at play in wastewater readings. Different covid variants induce different amounts of shedding. If current variants are better able to target the GI tract, higher concentrations could be observed in wastewater for each case.
From VA:
"There are limitations when interpreting this [wastewater] data. Viral loads can change for many reasons beyond how many individuals are infected in the community. These reasons can include temporary changes to the sewershed population (e.g., tourism or student towns), or changes to the virus itself (i.e., variants). This is why trends and context are important in interpreting this data. The level of correlation between wastewater detections and COVID-19 cases is not fully understood, and researchers continue to explore this question. The data should be interpreted with this limitation in mind and should be used together with other data points." https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/see-the-numbers/covid-19-data-insights/sars-cov-2-in-wastewater/
ZOMG! It is potentially worse than what is shown in the wastewater? We need a two-week shutdown to flatten the curve.
Anonymous
12/26/2023 01:03
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sadly, an old friend down south was sick but of course went ahead and attended her extended family get together earlier in Dec. Now her elderly dad is in the hospital, and most of her family is sick as well, preparing to give it to their coworkers.
It's hard to believe adults can't be responsible and stay home if they are sick, or at least wear a decent mask.
My parent had the booster and a few weeks after getting it, got covid and a few weeks after that died. Someone at the assisted living that they ate with had it and spread it.
So the booster was super effective? And you wonder why people aren’t getting it.
I think it’s worthless. I debated it for my kids but decided against it.
Anonymous
12/26/2023 01:02
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People need to get vaccinated. It is the holiday season. Stop the spread for heaven's sake!
The CDC doesn't claim that the booster stops spread/transmission. They only say that it helps protect against serious illness. (Which is very rare anyhow for healthy people post-Omicron.) https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/stay-up-to-date.html
If it's not stopping transmission I see no reason to keep taking it when we don't know the long term impact of the boosters. And, covid is far less serious so basic precautions such as masking and handwashing are probably equally effective. More effective is people staying home when sick.
What about asymptomatic carriers??????
Ok, and?
Anonymous
12/26/2023 00:58
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i don’t really under any the point. i got one covid shot when it first came out. haven’t gotten anymore since. Same goes for our entire family. we’ve had covid a few times and it’s definitely the most mild of all seasonal illnesses. bronchitis, strep and flu are wayyy worse. Who knows i could have had it more times than a couple, but i have run out to buy a test since 2021. waste of money.
In my entire family, we have one person permanently disabled by post-COVID complications and another person dead. Seems wayyy worse than "seasonal illnesses" to us (and: not seasonal).
Per CNN: “ there is an “urgent need” to boost vaccination coverage ”
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/22/health/stay-well-holidays-wellness/index.html
The CDC argues for vaccination to protect against severe illness. However, Omicron poses little risk of severe illness to healthy individuals. Contrary to what the CNN article states, the CDC does not claim that the booster will stop the spread of illness.
As another PP noted, we're in a much better position now than we were last year, even with minimal booster uptake, because Omicron variants remain mild. The CDC and CNN are highlighting seasonal weekly increases in covid but the better way to look at seasonal events is by using year-over-year changes. The latter shows that there are 30% fewer covid hospitalizations currently relative to last year, which is actually a favorable development.
Anonymous
12/26/2023 00:38
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:“ COVID-19 levels high ahead of holiday travel season..”
Oh no…
Virginia in particular is “very high”
https://www.axios.com/2023/12/19/covid-levels-cases-holiday-state-map
This article is citing CDC wastewater data from the week of 12/2. The CDC is currently showing wastewater data for thru 12/16 and VA is "high", not "very high". https://www.cdc.gov/nwss/rv/COVID19-currentlevels.html Seeing higher wastewater readings in December is not surprising as covid cases rise each winter. However, there may also be other factors at play in wastewater readings. Different covid variants induce different amounts of shedding. If current variants are better able to target the GI tract, higher concentrations could be observed in wastewater for each case.
From VA:
"There are limitations when interpreting this [wastewater] data. Viral loads can change for many reasons beyond how many individuals are infected in the community. These reasons can include temporary changes to the sewershed population (e.g., tourism or student towns), or changes to the virus itself (i.e., variants). This is why trends and context are important in interpreting this data. The level of correlation between wastewater detections and COVID-19 cases is not fully understood, and researchers continue to explore this question. The data should be interpreted with this limitation in mind and should be used together with other data points." https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/see-the-numbers/covid-19-data-insights/sars-cov-2-in-wastewater/
Anonymous
12/25/2023 23:31
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i don’t really under any the point. i got one covid shot when it first came out. haven’t gotten anymore since. Same goes for our entire family. we’ve had covid a few times and it’s definitely the most mild of all seasonal illnesses. bronchitis, strep and flu are wayyy worse. Who knows i could have had it more times than a couple, but i have run out to buy a test since 2021. waste of money.
In my entire family, we have one person permanently disabled by post-COVID complications and another person dead. Seems wayyy worse than "seasonal illnesses" to us (and: not seasonal).
Per CNN: “ there is an “urgent need” to boost vaccination coverage ”
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/22/health/stay-well-holidays-wellness/index.html
Sounds like good news when you look at the primary source: "COVID-19, influenza, and RSV activity are still below levels seen last year at this time."
Anonymous
12/25/2023 23:28
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Is it better new vaccine for Covid in the works? If this one is unpopular and not effective enough then is at least a better one in the works?
The vaccine is fine. Your expectations are just wrong. Think about how effective the flu vaccine is. Why would you expect the covid vaccine to be dramatically better?
They might have better luck with uptake if they traded off a little more efficacy to improve the nasty side effect profile.
Anonymous
12/25/2023 23:26
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i don’t really under any the point. i got one covid shot when it first came out. haven’t gotten anymore since. Same goes for our entire family. we’ve had covid a few times and it’s definitely the most mild of all seasonal illnesses. bronchitis, strep and flu are wayyy worse. Who knows i could have had it more times than a couple, but i have run out to buy a test since 2021. waste of money.
In my entire family, we have one person permanently disabled by post-COVID complications and another person dead. Seems wayyy worse than "seasonal illnesses" to us (and: not seasonal).
Per CNN: “ there is an “urgent need” to boost vaccination coverage ”
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/22/health/stay-well-holidays-wellness/index.html
Anonymous
12/25/2023 23:25
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i don’t really under any the point. i got one covid shot when it first came out. haven’t gotten anymore since. Same goes for our entire family. we’ve had covid a few times and it’s definitely the most mild of all seasonal illnesses. bronchitis, strep and flu are wayyy worse. Who knows i could have had it more times than a couple, but i have run out to buy a test since 2021. waste of money.
In my entire family, we have one person permanently disabled by post-COVID complications and another person dead. Seems wayyy worse than "seasonal illnesses" to us (and: not seasonal).
There's no way you haven't had extended family members that died with influenza or pneumonia as a cause. People just didn't make a big deal about it when old/sick people expectedly died.
Your comment lacks empathy.
I'm not sure why it would require empathy. The pp is clearly mistaken over past events involving influenza and pneumonia in her family. Apparently those previous events didn't psychologically scar her, so there's no reason the covid cases would.