Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can dolphins swim that deep?

No

What about an orca? I'm not saying this would work, but we won't know for sure unless we try.

Anonymous wrote:Can dolphins swim that deep?

No

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hard to believe the whole world is watching but everyone is helpless to help them.

Must be agony for the family members.

I mean he is just the stepson.

I was looking at the step-son's IG and Facebook accounts yesterday. Getting strong Aspie vibes, so many of his posts are just cringe and with zero self-awareness. He seems to attend lots of high-end sports events, backstage passes to concerts, etc. Lots of awkward selfies with un-amused celebs and athletes.

Ok, so what? He is irrelevant

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone thought about training a pod of dolphins to swim down and try to dislodge the tourist submarine. They are incredibly bright animals and should only take a couple of hours to train. Would be good to at least try while they wait for the ship with unmanned submersibles to arrive.

They could also consider some sort of pully with magnets, perhaps using a nearby fishing ship in the area.

It's 13000 ft into the darkest depths. No dolphin or fishing boat can navigate this. Even military submarines.

You're envisioning a fun little snorkling trip . This isn't it.

It would be crazy if the "banging noise" turned out to be passengers on Malaysia Flight 370

They may die of hypothermia before lack of oxygen.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can dolphins swim that deep?

They are too smart to go that deep.

They could if you put them in deep sea pressure suits like Navy divers get.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A vehicle the size of a mini-van with a bottle and Ziploc bags for a toilet. Viewing portal tested to 1400 meters’ depth and they were going down 14,000 feet. Controller made from a GameBoy.

The level of delusion involved in boarding this craft is shocking. It’s hard not to see it as a form of suicide.

But one guy had gone down to the site 35 times, and lived to tell the story. So...no.

(I think it was reckless, but their intentions were not suicidal!)

I agree that these were likely not folks who would have died by some other means of suicide had they not gotten into this vehicle. But there are limits to human capabilities in nature, and the fact that one is paying $250k to test them doesn’t mean that the limits are nonexistent. That’s delusion.

I see it as being a lot like guided Everest climbs by inexperienced climbers. Very unfortunate.

The Simpsons writer who went on one of the successful dives has an interesting take on it. He basically said they're dead without saying they're dead, but also added:

The company has taken tourists to the site since 2021, and Mr Reiss was one of a number of groups who made the perilous journey last year.

'Somehow there's just the acceptance of it [the risk].

'This is why I have this sympathy for the people on board the sub, that they’re not panicking, that they knew what they were getting into.'

He said the 'They built this beautiful submarine which can go where no other vessel can go, so if in the worst case they are down at the bottom of the ocean I can't see how anyone will be able to get to them, much less rescue them. "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12215697/Former-Titanic-sub-tourist-reveals-expedition-waiver-listed-three-ways-die-page-one.html

That “somehow” is doing a lot of work. The vision that they are calm down there is very romantic—but I think also delusional.

+1 yeah, what the heck - these people are not sitting here contemplating the tragic beauty of dying, tangled up in the shipwreck they alone could see. they're panicking and praying, and probably fighting a little bit, in their final hours trapped in this smelly, hot, literal pressure chamber. i hope they find peace at some point - but, no, they are not there to take comfort in a narratively satisfying ending.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A vehicle the size of a mini-van with a bottle and Ziploc bags for a toilet. Viewing portal tested to 1400 meters’ depth and they were going down 14,000 feet. Controller made from a GameBoy.

The level of delusion involved in boarding this craft is shocking. It’s hard not to see it as a form of suicide.

But one guy had gone down to the site 35 times, and lived to tell the story. So...no.

(I think it was reckless, but their intentions were not suicidal!)

I agree that these were likely not folks who would have died by some other means of suicide had they not gotten into this vehicle. But there are limits to human capabilities in nature, and the fact that one is paying $250k to test them doesn’t mean that the limits are nonexistent. That’s delusion.

I see it as being a lot like guided Everest climbs by inexperienced climbers. Very unfortunate.

The Simpsons writer who went on one of the successful dives has an interesting take on it. He basically said they're dead without saying they're dead, but also added:

The company has taken tourists to the site since 2021, and Mr Reiss was one of a number of groups who made the perilous journey last year.

'Somehow there's just the acceptance of it [the risk].

'This is why I have this sympathy for the people on board the sub, that they’re not panicking, that they knew what they were getting into.'

He said the 'They built this beautiful submarine which can go where no other vessel can go, so if in the worst case they are down at the bottom of the ocean I can't see how anyone will be able to get to them, much less rescue them. "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12215697/Former-Titanic-sub-tourist-reveals-expedition-waiver-listed-three-ways-die-page-one.html

That “somehow” is doing a lot of work. The vision that they are calm down there is very romantic—but I think also delusional.

The US and Canadian Coast Guards are racing against the clock to locate the stranded Titan exploration sub, but diners at this Panda Express in Coeur D'Aline have their doubts.

What's the long term outcome from this. I assume there are going to be multiple lawsuits filed by Attorneys Admiral.

Are there other companies that offer these tourist dives to the site and if so, what type of submersibles do they use? now that we're hearing about some of the concerns with the design of this one, kind of curious how it compares to one from these other companies.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A vehicle the size of a mini-van with a bottle and Ziploc bags for a toilet. Viewing portal tested to 1400 meters’ depth and they were going down 14,000 feet. Controller made from a GameBoy.

The level of delusion involved in boarding this craft is shocking. It’s hard not to see it as a form of suicide.

But one guy had gone down to the site 35 times, and lived to tell the story. So...no.

(I think it was reckless, but their intentions were not suicidal!)

I agree that these were likely not folks who would have died by some other means of suicide had they not gotten into this vehicle. But there are limits to human capabilities in nature, and the fact that one is paying $250k to test them doesn’t mean that the limits are nonexistent. That’s delusion.

I see it as being a lot like guided Everest climbs by inexperienced climbers. Very unfortunate.

The Simpsons writer who went on one of the successful dives has an interesting take on it. He basically said they're dead without saying they're dead, but also added:

The company has taken tourists to the site since 2021, and Mr Reiss was one of a number of groups who made the perilous journey last year.

'Somehow there's just the acceptance of it [the risk].

'This is why I have this sympathy for the people on board the sub, that they’re not panicking, that they knew what they were getting into.'

He said the 'They built this beautiful submarine which can go where no other vessel can go, so if in the worst case they are down at the bottom of the ocean I can't see how anyone will be able to get to them, much less rescue them. "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12215697/Former-Titanic-sub-tourist-reveals-expedition-waiver-listed-three-ways-die-page-one.html

Anonymous wrote:Can dolphins swim that deep?

They are too smart to go that deep.

maybe this has already been mentioned, but I thought I read somewhere yesterday that one expert thought they may have gotten caught somehow on the titanic wreckage and can't come up because of that? Either way, seems like an unnecessary risk and I hope they/their estate is billed for the search and rescue costs.