Anonymous
02/25/2024 21:46
Subject: Petition to bring back SROs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our schools uses RJ. It's amazing when used correctly. You are really missing out.
Teacher here. I’ve seen RJ used many times over recent years. I’ve never seen it work. You do realize the students openly mock it, right? I’ve had students act out in front of me and say, “yeah? What are you gonna do about it? Put me in a f-ing circle?”
It’s a joke. The kids know it’s a joke. There are only a few idealistic (naive) adults who still think it’s worthwhile.
+1 My teens have stated that no one takes RJ seriously. Do the people who come up with this BS even know teens at all? Idiots.
If kids haven't learned right from wrong as teens, they need strong consequences not a discussion on their behavior with the child they hurt.
+100
Anonymous
02/25/2024 21:01
Subject: Petition to bring back SROs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our schools uses RJ. It's amazing when used correctly. You are really missing out.
Teacher here. I’ve seen RJ used many times over recent years. I’ve never seen it work. You do realize the students openly mock it, right? I’ve had students act out in front of me and say, “yeah? What are you gonna do about it? Put me in a f-ing circle?”
It’s a joke. The kids know it’s a joke. There are only a few idealistic (naive) adults who still think it’s worthwhile.
+1 My teens have stated that no one takes RJ seriously. Do the people who come up with this BS even know teens at all? Idiots.
If kids haven't learned right from wrong as teens, they need strong consequences not a discussion on their behavior with the child they hurt.
Anonymous
02/25/2024 21:00
Subject: Petition to bring back SROs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My problem with this thread and others is the idea that bringing SROs into each HS is some magical solution. As opposed to comprehensive safety and security which would include: 1) Increased training and evaluation for other school security personnel, 2)Additional social work and counseling resources, 3) Increased training and PROPER implementation of restorative justice with key resources, 4) A hybrid of the current CEO program such that CEO are stationed in HS, but also making rounds in their cluster of schools and communities.
I do not want my kids to participate in restorative justice. They don't need to be revictimized by the bully or attacker who gets no punishment. Get these kids out of the mainstream school and start giving consequences since parents will not.
Clearly you don’t know what restorative justice is or how it works in most situations and are instead just parroting things you heard in DCUM.
I do know. My child was subjected to it without my permission and they were really upset over it and it was bad enough where they didn't want to go to school. The other child got off with a fake apology and kept tormenting my child. The school wouldn't allow my child to change classrooms and it was a huge fight the following year to get them in separate classrooms.
Anonymous
02/25/2024 16:51
Subject: Petition to bring back SROs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our schools uses RJ. It's amazing when used correctly. You are really missing out.
Please give us an example.
Probably works for 5 year olds, not 15 yr olds.
-parent of teens
Anonymous
02/25/2024 16:51
Subject: Petition to bring back SROs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our schools uses RJ. It's amazing when used correctly. You are really missing out.
Teacher here. I’ve seen RJ used many times over recent years. I’ve never seen it work. You do realize the students openly mock it, right? I’ve had students act out in front of me and say, “yeah? What are you gonna do about it? Put me in a f-ing circle?”
It’s a joke. The kids know it’s a joke. There are only a few idealistic (naive) adults who still think it’s worthwhile.
+1 My teens have stated that no one takes RJ seriously. Do the people who come up with this BS even know teens at all? Idiots.
Anonymous
02/25/2024 16:42
Subject: Petition to bring back SROs
Anonymous wrote:Our schools uses RJ. It's amazing when used correctly. You are really missing out.
Please give us an example.
Anonymous
02/25/2024 16:36
Subject: Petition to bring back SROs
Anonymous wrote:Our schools uses RJ. It's amazing when used correctly. You are really missing out.
Teacher here. I’ve seen RJ used many times over recent years. I’ve never seen it work. You do realize the students openly mock it, right? I’ve had students act out in front of me and say, “yeah? What are you gonna do about it? Put me in a f-ing circle?”
It’s a joke. The kids know it’s a joke. There are only a few idealistic (naive) adults who still think it’s worthwhile.
Anonymous
02/25/2024 16:30
Subject: Petition to bring back SROs
Anonymous wrote:Our schools uses RJ. It's amazing when used correctly. You are really missing out.
No, we aren't missing out on anything. Are you the parent of a bully?
Anonymous
02/25/2024 16:30
Subject: Petition to bring back SROs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My problem with this thread and others is the idea that bringing SROs into each HS is some magical solution. As opposed to comprehensive safety and security which would include: 1) Increased training and evaluation for other school security personnel, 2)Additional social work and counseling resources, 3) Increased training and PROPER implementation of restorative justice with key resources, 4) A hybrid of the current CEO program such that CEO are stationed in HS, but also making rounds in their cluster of schools and communities.
I do not want my kids to participate in restorative justice. They don't need to be revictimized by the bully or attacker who gets no punishment. Get these kids out of the mainstream school and start giving consequences since parents will not.
Clearly you don’t know what restorative justice is or how it works in most situations and are instead just parroting things you heard in DCUM.
Anonymous
02/25/2024 16:18
Subject: Petition to bring back SROs
Our schools uses RJ. It's amazing when used correctly. You are really missing out.
Anonymous
02/25/2024 16:02
Subject: Petition to bring back SROs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My problem with this thread and others is the idea that bringing SROs into each HS is some magical solution. As opposed to comprehensive safety and security which would include: 1) Increased training and evaluation for other school security personnel, 2)Additional social work and counseling resources, 3) Increased training and PROPER implementation of restorative justice with key resources, 4) A hybrid of the current CEO program such that CEO are stationed in HS, but also making rounds in their cluster of schools and communities.
I do not want my kids to participate in restorative justice. They don't need to be revictimized by the bully or attacker who gets no punishment. Get these kids out of the mainstream school and start giving consequences since parents will not.
Same here. I don’t want my child to participate in RJ either, and I would block any attempt to have my child participate in one. I’m a teacher and I’ve seen firsthand how useless it is. I’ve also seen how cruel it is to the victims.
I want real consequences, and that includes if my child is the perpetrator.
Anonymous
02/25/2024 15:40
Subject: Petition to bring back SROs
Anonymous wrote:My problem with this thread and others is the idea that bringing SROs into each HS is some magical solution. As opposed to comprehensive safety and security which would include: 1) Increased training and evaluation for other school security personnel, 2)Additional social work and counseling resources, 3) Increased training and PROPER implementation of restorative justice with key resources, 4) A hybrid of the current CEO program such that CEO are stationed in HS, but also making rounds in their cluster of schools and communities.
I do not want my kids to participate in restorative justice. They don't need to be revictimized by the bully or attacker who gets no punishment. Get these kids out of the mainstream school and start giving consequences since parents will not.
Anonymous
02/25/2024 15:39
Subject: Petition to bring back SROs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is there a petition to keep schools SRO free?
It's the status quo and I dont' think there are any proposals (by Council members) to add them back in. Why would there be a petition in favor of the status quo when there are no firm proposals to change it?
With the regressive pushing so hard to turn schools into prisons I want to show my support for keeping schools safe and SRO free.
And, how do you propose that?
Start a petition to keep schools free from people with guns?
Think the students with guns will agree?
There are already rules against weapons in school buildings, yet students bring them.
Are you really suggesting no adults with guns?
See, I feel better with well-trained adults holding them. I don’t care for the idea of ghost guns and other weapons in the hands of children.
The students w/ guns know about SROs and bring bigger and nastier guns because of their presence. Not to mention they are reluctant to do anything when things get rough like with Parkland or Uvalde. This is exactly why the research shows that SROs make schools less safe.
You keep bringing up the two same incidents but those would have happened either way. There are many other stories about SRO's saving the day and yet you choose to ignore them. SRO's who are good, do make a difference. Most research shows that.
Anonymous
02/25/2024 15:38
Subject: Petition to bring back SROs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is there a petition to keep schools SRO free?
It's the status quo and I dont' think there are any proposals (by Council members) to add them back in. Why would there be a petition in favor of the status quo when there are no firm proposals to change it?
With the regressive pushing so hard to turn schools into prisons I want to show my support for keeping schools safe and SRO free.
And, how do you propose that?
Start a petition to keep schools free from people with guns?
And, how do you propose keeping people with guns out of schools?
No guns within 10 miles of the schools, guns must be locked in safes if you have kid in the house, gun owner must be certified on gun safety yearly, kids with guns in the home go through a gun detector door.
If you are caught breaking any of these rules you go to jail... and pay a huge fine so we can pay to police this... but we don't even put rapist in jail so we won't be putting gun nuts in jail.
Ok, and now back to the real world. How do you propose that happens? You'd need police regularly searching all homes and patrolling. Are you ok with regular home searches.
They should have metal and other detectors for everyone entering the school. As well as SRO's.
And, this has nothing to do with MCPS. The question is what more can MCPS do to keep students and staff safe.
Anonymous
02/25/2024 13:31
Subject: Petition to bring back SROs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is there a petition to keep schools SRO free?
It's the status quo and I dont' think there are any proposals (by Council members) to add them back in. Why would there be a petition in favor of the status quo when there are no firm proposals to change it?
With the regressive pushing so hard to turn schools into prisons I want to show my support for keeping schools safe and SRO free.
And, how do you propose that?
Start a petition to keep schools free from people with guns?
And, how do you propose keeping people with guns out of schools?
No guns within 10 miles of the schools, guns must be locked in safes if you have kid in the house, gun owner must be certified on gun safety yearly, kids with guns in the home go through a gun detector door.
If you are caught breaking any of these rules you go to jail... and pay a huge fine so we can pay to police this... but we don't even put rapist in jail so we won't be putting gun nuts in jail.