Anonymous wrote:I had water damage in my basement and needed a total overhaul. the construction team has been here for a week and they arrive at 7am and leave at 6pm. They have ripped out carpet, drywall, a bathroom and have dealt with mold, tiling, carpet installation, fixing of stairs, etc...

They seem overworked and no one is posting about them?

I imagine they get either paid hourly or the amount of work they had to do will be factored into the bill. This is a silly comparison

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Anonymous wrote:Haha. I certainly have not read all 40-something pages of this thread, but in response to the title: lol. I CONSTANTLY hear about how teachers are exhausted / overworked etc etc. Teachers complain more than any other profession I can think of. If anything, this is OVER acknowledged.

If the title has been “why does no one acknowledge how overworked nurses/childcare workers/sales managers/etc are”, you would have had my attention

This is the schools and education forum. Why would there be a thread on overworked sales managers or nurses? If you aren’t interested in issues related to education, there are millions of other places to look.

DP. The reason it's relevant to this forum is that parents are constantly being told that teachers are overworked, but guess what? SO. ARE. PARENTS. That's the point. Everyone is overworked. Like, are you kidding me, on year three of a pandemic that has seen most parents working full time while also needing to keep kids home for months during school closures, or weeks during quarantines, scrambling to find childcare after daycares and aftercare programs shuttered or limited their services due to Covid?

The reason this thread is getting so much pushback is that DCUM is, primarily, a forum for parents, and it feels really rich to say to a bunch of parents "Hey, how come you all aren't acknowledging how overworked teachers are" when (1) most parents I know DO acknowledge this, and (2) there is no acknowledgement that parents, too, are overworked and exhausted and are not really in a position to alleviate the burden on teachers.

Perhaps go find the forum for school district leadership or city council members and ask them why they won't acknowledge that teachers AND parents are overworked and their policies don't seem to recognize the crisis that we are in with regards to education right now. Parents are not the problem and the fact that you think they are indicates that you don't really understand what is going on here.

I had water damage in my basement and needed a total overhaul. the construction team has been here for a week and they arrive at 7am and leave at 6pm. They have ripped out carpet, drywall, a bathroom and have dealt with mold, tiling, carpet installation, fixing of stairs, etc...

They seem overworked and no one is posting about them?

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Anonymous wrote:Haha. I certainly have not read all 40-something pages of this thread, but in response to the title: lol. I CONSTANTLY hear about how teachers are exhausted / overworked etc etc. Teachers complain more than any other profession I can think of. If anything, this is OVER acknowledged.

If the title has been “why does no one acknowledge how overworked nurses/childcare workers/sales managers/etc are”, you would have had my attention

Do you really? You really hear this constantly? Where are you that you hear this constantly?

I’m a teacher. I follow a lot of teacher forums. Even I don’t hear this “constantly”.

This thread is about overworked teachers. Guess what? We’re overworked. If you would like to start a thread about overworked nurses/childcare workers/ sales managers/etc, you are welcome to do so.

As the supportive person that I am, I’d comment in support of those workers. It seems most of the posters on this thread are unwilling to give teachers that respect. I suppose the elementary “if you can’t say anything nice…” doesn’t apply here.

Its' just factually incorrect that most of the posters on this thread are unwilling to give teachers respect. But keep digging in to the martyr narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:Haha. I certainly have not read all 40-something pages of this thread, but in response to the title: lol. I CONSTANTLY hear about how teachers are exhausted / overworked etc etc. Teachers complain more than any other profession I can think of. If anything, this is OVER acknowledged.

If the title has been “why does no one acknowledge how overworked nurses/childcare workers/sales managers/etc are”, you would have had my attention

Do you really? You really hear this constantly? Where are you that you hear this constantly?

I’m a teacher. I follow a lot of teacher forums. Even I don’t hear this “constantly”.

This thread is about overworked teachers. Guess what? We’re overworked. If you would like to start a thread about overworked nurses/childcare workers/ sales managers/etc, you are welcome to do so.

As the supportive person that I am, I’d comment in support of those workers. It seems most of the posters on this thread are unwilling to give teachers that respect. I suppose the elementary “if you can’t say anything nice…” doesn’t apply here.

Are people assuming the OP is a teacher?

Anonymous wrote:Haha. I certainly have not read all 40-something pages of this thread, but in response to the title: lol. I CONSTANTLY hear about how teachers are exhausted / overworked etc etc. Teachers complain more than any other profession I can think of. If anything, this is OVER acknowledged.

If the title has been “why does no one acknowledge how overworked nurses/childcare workers/sales managers/etc are”, you would have had my attention

This is the schools and education forum. Why would there be a thread on overworked sales managers or nurses? If you aren’t interested in issues related to education, there are millions of other places to look.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers lost all credibility when they chose not to teach and sold the idea that it didn't really matter

They did teach. Their employers set the conditions of their employment, not you. Enjoy staying ignorant.

Most did not teach and did not oppose the teaching bans.


The profession is dead.

Stats please.

What teaching bans?

Been in a cave last couple years?

It’s not true that “most teachers did not teach”. I know of no “teaching bans”. You are welcome to prove otherwise.

Anonymous wrote:So we have been arguing for 41 pages teachers, what can parents realistically do to improve conditions? I voted for a school board that I thought would support teachers. I would gladly vote for more funding for our local schools. I believe that we need smaller class sizes, particularly in ES. I have addressed the behavior problems in my kids that have been brought to my attention.

But, I will defend my kids when appropriate. Having been lied to several times by trusted adults about their behavior, I will ask questions and not just assume that you are right and they are wrong.(On the flip side, I won’t assume that they are right and you are wrong). And I won’t allow my kid to pick on other kids, but since the schools can’t stop the mean girl crap, I have given my DD permission to defend/protect herself as necessary, even if she too has to be mean in the process.

The people in charge of the system have pitted teachers against parents when really, we are all stuck in the same broken system trying to get through it. These fights are a distraction from the real problem. So how do we work together to actually fix things?

Couldn’t agree more! Thank you for summing it perfectly!

Anonymous wrote:Haha. I certainly have not read all 40-something pages of this thread, but in response to the title: lol. I CONSTANTLY hear about how teachers are exhausted / overworked etc etc. Teachers complain more than any other profession I can think of. If anything, this is OVER acknowledged.

If the title has been “why does no one acknowledge how overworked nurses/childcare workers/sales managers/etc are”, you would have had my attention

Do you really? You really hear this constantly? Where are you that you hear this constantly?

I’m a teacher. I follow a lot of teacher forums. Even I don’t hear this “constantly”.

This thread is about overworked teachers. Guess what? We’re overworked. If you would like to start a thread about overworked nurses/childcare workers/ sales managers/etc, you are welcome to do so.

As the supportive person that I am, I’d comment in support of those workers. It seems most of the posters on this thread are unwilling to give teachers that respect. I suppose the elementary “if you can’t say anything nice…” doesn’t apply here.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers lost all credibility when they chose not to teach and sold the idea that it didn't really matter

They did teach. Their employers set the conditions of their employment, not you. Enjoy staying ignorant.

Most did not teach and did not oppose the teaching bans.


The profession is dead.

good parenting seems to be dead too.

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Anonymous wrote:I think y'all are arguing with, like, ONE teacher here.

Nope. And some of who agree with the teacher aren’t even teachers. We’re just - gasp! - rational parents.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers lost all credibility when they chose not to teach and sold the idea that it didn't really matter

They did teach. Their employers set the conditions of their employment, not you. Enjoy staying ignorant.

Most did not teach and did not oppose the teaching bans.


The profession is dead.

Stats please.

What teaching bans?

Been in a cave last couple years?

Anonymous wrote:Haha. I certainly have not read all 40-something pages of this thread, but in response to the title: lol. I CONSTANTLY hear about how teachers are exhausted / overworked etc etc. Teachers complain more than any other profession I can think of. If anything, this is OVER acknowledged.

If the title has been “why does no one acknowledge how overworked nurses/childcare workers/sales managers/etc are”, you would have had my attention

Except you clicked on it and wrote a post……?

Haha. I certainly have not read all 40-something pages of this thread, but in response to the title: lol. I CONSTANTLY hear about how teachers are exhausted / overworked etc etc. Teachers complain more than any other profession I can think of. If anything, this is OVER acknowledged.

If the title has been “why does no one acknowledge how overworked nurses/childcare workers/sales managers/etc are”, you would have had my attention

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers lost all credibility when they chose not to teach and sold the idea that it didn't really matter

They did teach. Their employers set the conditions of their employment, not you. Enjoy staying ignorant.

Most did not teach and did not oppose the teaching bans.


The profession is dead.

Stats please.

What teaching bans?