Anonymous wrote:With the former president in NYC and not Mar-A-Lago, the Secret Service role was greatly diminished.

But was still present to verify the authenticity of the search warrant, greet the FBI upon arrival, and make certain areas available, per the search warrant, so what’s your point?

With the former president in NYC and not Mar-A-Lago, the Secret Service role was greatly diminished.

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Anonymous wrote:Does MAL not have any security cameras? It seems like someone would have noticed 10 boxes worth of documents being carried inside MAL if the FBI were attempting to “plant” evidence. Am I supposed to believe that the residence of a former president, under Secretary Service protection, has such lax security that this is possible?

Yes, it does. And it turns out the footage from those cameras was subpoenaed recently. https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/09/politics/donald-trump-document-investigation-mar-a-lago-search/index.html Good chances that evidence from those tapes was at least partially the basis for the search warrant.

I love it!

From your CNN link:

“The Secret Service validated the search warrant, met up with FBI agents as they arrived, and ensured they had uninhibited access, but the Secret Service agents themselves did not help in the search, the source said. The senior-most Secret Service person at the property served as the point of contact.“

So even the FBI doesn’t get to just stroll through MAL without the attention of the Secret Service.

Anonymous wrote:Could the secret service have stopped the FBI agents from entering if Trump had ordered them to do so? Just curious how this works.

No, because USSS are law enforcement officers who swear an oath to the Constitution, not to petty tyrants, and cannot follow illegal orders.

Anonymous wrote:Could the secret service have stopped the FBI agents from entering if Trump had ordered them to do so? Just curious how this works.

If they wanted to get arrested they could have done that.

Could the secret service have stopped the FBI agents from entering if Trump had ordered them to do so? Just curious how this works.

Anonymous wrote:Does MAL not have any security cameras? It seems like someone would have noticed 10 boxes worth of documents being carried inside MAL if the FBI were attempting to “plant” evidence. Am I supposed to believe that the residence of a former president, under Secretary Service protection, has such lax security that this is possible?

Yes, it does. And it turns out the footage from those cameras was subpoenaed recently. https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/09/politics/donald-trump-document-investigation-mar-a-lago-search/index.html Good chances that evidence from those tapes was at least partially the basis for the search warrant.

Anonymous wrote:Does MAL not have any security cameras? It seems like someone would have noticed 10 boxes worth of documents being carried inside MAL if the FBI were attempting to “plant” evidence. Am I supposed to believe that the residence of a former president, under Secretary Service protection, has such lax security that this is possible?

Didn’t they take the footage from all the security cameras? They’d probably edit that out if it had been planted. Oh they didn’t take the security camera footage? Why won’t they show us the warrant? (See how easy it is to spout off nonsense and almost make a point but say enough triggering words in a row to get some dumb maga guys to start threatening a civil war while they wait for their first insurrection trial? Logic doesn’t work with these people.)

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Anonymous wrote:Does MAL not have any security cameras? It seems like someone would have noticed 10 boxes worth of documents being carried inside MAL if the FBI were attempting to “plant” evidence. Am I supposed to believe that the residence of a former president, under Secretary Service protection, has such lax security that this is possible?

Good point. This is so ridiculous...

yes, but Trump supporters will never figure this out.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course i expect nothing more from MAGA at this point. They are insurrectionists who want to end American democracy.

But my. God.

How can the slightly more sane of you republicans look at yourselves and say - yup - when the FBI was investigating Hillary’s email, that was correct to do and in fact we are sure she should be locked up for her ‘crimes’.

But a few years later, AFTER 4 YEARS OF A TRUMP PRESIDENCY AND TRUMP APPOINTING THE HEAD OF FBI WHO CONTINUES TO THIS DAY, the FBI is now a corrupt wing of the Democratic Party?

Get ahold of yourselves

Oh, FFS. Did the FBI do a pre-dawn raid to search for those emails that Hillary wiped from her server? For that matter, did they do a pre-dawn, long guns drawn raid to even find the server?
Yes - there are still way too many agents at the FBI who are corrupt to the core. Wray has done nothing to rein in the rogue agents.
This raid was so unwarranted and will come back to bite the Dems in the butt. Mark my words.

Wooah, wooah wooah moron. So your position is that there was no search warrant at all? That a bunch of rogue FBI agents just took it upon themselves to do this.

You are beyond being helped.

I think he's saying a corrupt head of the FBI drew up a warrant to be signed by a corrupt judge. Just like they did with the FISAs

If the warrant is so ridiculous why hasn’t Trump shared it? He’s the only one who can do so.

He’s not going to share it, and his team seems to think that DOJ can? They can’t.

No, they’re not confused, they’re lying. Again. That’s what they do. They act like it’s someone else’s fault and that if the other person weren’t a bad guy, they’d open up and share. But they can’t open up and share (whether because of norms or laws), and the base gets outraged while the leaders get faux outraged until when the truth comes out, no one remembers or cares that it was all built on lies. Or they pivot and blame someone else.

It’s like when a 10yo was raped and had to leave the state for an abortion. They kept saying how it wasn’t true or the doctor would prove it somehow (even though the doctor couldn’t because of HIPAA). After a series of lies and moved goalposts, at least one of the doctors is being investigated for something nonsensical and had to hire security because of threats. If Garland had a press conference and laid out the facts, those fools would be melting down about how it wasn’t his place to do that, and they’d say it’s all politically motivated lies.

Anonymous wrote:Does MAL not have any security cameras? It seems like someone would have noticed 10 boxes worth of documents being carried inside MAL if the FBI were attempting to “plant” evidence. Am I supposed to believe that the residence of a former president, under Secretary Service protection, has such lax security that this is possible?

Good point. This is so ridiculous...

Does MAL not have any security cameras? It seems like someone would have noticed 10 boxes worth of documents being carried inside MAL if the FBI were attempting to “plant” evidence. Am I supposed to believe that the residence of a former president, under Secretary Service protection, has such lax security that this is possible?

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Anonymous wrote:Yep...the "planted evidence" lie was started last night, is totally baseless, and is not surprising that the whole of the GOP would manifest in it.

The other night I dreamed that republicans finally came to their senses about Trump. The reality is that we're living a nightmare in which people still support him. It will never stop baffling me.

So your telling us you dream about Trump. Nice!

Anonymous wrote:Yep...the "planted evidence" lie was started last night, is totally baseless, and is not surprising that the whole of the GOP would manifest in it.

The other night I dreamed that republicans finally came to their senses about Trump. The reality is that we're living a nightmare in which people still support him. It will never stop baffling me.

Yep...the "planted evidence" lie was started last night, is totally baseless, and is not surprising that the whole of the GOP would manifest in it.