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Anonymous wrote:I don't see any evidence to support this possible scenario, but I'm curious what others think: is there a chance that Putin actually wants to draw NATO into Ukraine in order to ignite a broader conflict? Perhaps, so far, he has been fighting with one arm behind his back, and he will only swing with both fists once NATO forces enter Ukraine. Additionally, with NATO deployed in Ukraine, is there a risk that China would then enter the conflict, fighting alongside of Russia?

Putin absolutely wants to draw NATO in so he can strengthen his domestic position within Russia. The "woe is us, NATO is so mean to Russia" narrative plays very well domestically but he really can't deploy that narrative effectively when Russia is just shelling civilians in the Ukraine.

China absolutely will NOT put boots on the ground to fight alongside Russians. Their best case scenario is to sit back and watch Russia and the Western democracies destroy each other.

I think your logic makes sense. If Putin draws NATO into the war, it will galvanize the Russian population, and perhaps, he hopes, mask the fact that the Russians are indeed the bad guys in this conflict.

Conversely, if NATO remains on the sidelines, then, ultimately, there is a possibility that an ever-larger percentage of the Russian population will break free from the propaganda and develop an understanding of the horrible truth. And that would potentially lead to the downfall of Putin.

The only way a stable outcome can be achieved, I think, is if Putin is removed from power and a benign regime takes over. If Putin remains in power, any post-war "peace" will be quite tense -- perhaps similar to the tension that exists on the Korean peninsula, with two diametrically opposed societies on opposite sides of a lengthy, highly militarized border.

Or, the longer this drags on, then more Russian soldiers will die in Ukraine, enraging their families and increasing their support to cause destruction in Ukraine.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see any evidence to support this possible scenario, but I'm curious what others think: is there a chance that Putin actually wants to draw NATO into Ukraine in order to ignite a broader conflict? Perhaps, so far, he has been fighting with one arm behind his back, and he will only swing with both fists once NATO forces enter Ukraine. Additionally, with NATO deployed in Ukraine, is there a risk that China would then enter the conflict, fighting alongside of Russia?

Putin absolutely wants to draw NATO in so he can strengthen his domestic position within Russia. The "woe is us, NATO is so mean to Russia" narrative plays very well domestically but he really can't deploy that narrative effectively when Russia is just shelling civilians in the Ukraine.

China absolutely will NOT put boots on the ground to fight alongside Russians. Their best case scenario is to sit back and watch Russia and the Western democracies destroy each other.

I think your logic makes sense. If Putin draws NATO into the war, it will galvanize the Russian population, and perhaps, he hopes, mask the fact that the Russians are indeed the bad guys in this conflict.

Conversely, if NATO remains on the sidelines, then, ultimately, there is a possibility that an ever-larger percentage of the Russian population will break free from the propaganda and develop an understanding of the horrible truth. And that would potentially lead to the downfall of Putin.

The only way a stable outcome can be achieved, I think, is if Putin is removed from power and a benign regime takes over. If Putin remains in power, any post-war "peace" will be quite tense -- perhaps similar to the tension that exists on the Korean peninsula, with two diametrically opposed societies on opposite sides of a lengthy, highly militarized border.

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Anonymous wrote:Russian Major General slain

I wonder how they are killing these high ranking officers.

They are intercepting their calls and geolocatiing them. Apparently Russian secure communication ERA system does not work so Russian army communicating on not secure lines.

Russia is an incompetent mess where it comes to fighting a real war, they are only good at brutal indiscriminate shelling and bombing of civilian targets, and the idiotic trolls here supporting them should be ashamed.

Except no one here is supporting them.

But your poor, blatant attempt at gaslighting is noted.

MTG is...

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Anonymous wrote:Russian Major General slain

I wonder how they are killing these high ranking officers.

They are intercepting their calls and geolocatiing them. Apparently Russian secure communication ERA system does not work so Russian army communicating on not secure lines.

Russia is an incompetent mess where it comes to fighting a real war, they are only good at brutal indiscriminate shelling and bombing of civilian targets, and the idiotic trolls here supporting them should be ashamed.

Except no one here is supporting them.

But your poor, blatant attempt at gaslighting is noted.

Anonymous wrote:I don't see any evidence to support this possible scenario, but I'm curious what others think: is there a chance that Putin actually wants to draw NATO into Ukraine in order to ignite a broader conflict? Perhaps, so far, he has been fighting with one arm behind his back, and he will only swing with both fists once NATO forces enter Ukraine. Additionally, with NATO deployed in Ukraine, is there a risk that China would then enter the conflict, fighting alongside of Russia?

The only thing China will be entering is Siberia- just as soon as it looks like the balance of power has tipped away from Putin.

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Anonymous wrote:Russian Major General slain

I wonder how they are killing these high ranking officers.

Generals are too old and fat and out of shape to hump around on foot, so they ride in vehicles. Vehicles that are drawing bullets and rockets like flies to poop. How long do you think you’d survive in a place like that with hundreds of people shooting at you all day long from every direction?

If you are a general you have about 5-10k troops around you. This is not a TV show where you just walk up to a general and shoot him. If you approach within 1000m of a Russian base of operation or column they will fire on you. These are likely switchblade drone attacks.

Ukraine doesn’t have the switchblades yet.

+1

The prior quoted PP is living in fantasyland. 1000 meters? Most of these tanks getting their turrets blown off are being hit by Ukrainian civilians with AT4’s from ~50-100 meters.

The Russians are absolutely incompetent. 1000 meters! Ha!

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Russian generals getting killed?

Because people with rifles are shooting at them.


So much for the “you can’t fight a modern army with your silly AR15” meme, huh?

This is 100% true. And after Ukraine, it cannot be refuted.

The opposite is true. The Ukraine war is about drones and technology not about small arms.

Nope, sorry dear. The DJI drones that Ukrainians are flying all over to spot command vehicles and bivouac areas are indeed useful. But in the end it always involves putting a man or woman with a rifle in place to shoot them. Just like every war.

Rifles and people occupying ground who will pull triggers are what win wars.

“Grabbed” not trapped. Stupid autocorrect.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Russian generals getting killed?

Because people with rifles are shooting at them.


So much for the “you can’t fight a modern army with your silly AR15” meme, huh?

This is 100% true. And after Ukraine, it cannot be refuted.

Well, it can because it’s clear after Ukraine that Russia doesn’t have a “modern army.”

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Russian generals getting killed?

Because people with rifles are shooting at them.


So much for the “you can’t fight a modern army with your silly AR15” meme, huh?

This is 100% true. And after Ukraine, it cannot be refuted.

The opposite is true. The Ukraine war is about drones and technology not about small arms.

Bullshit.

Remember that Russian paratroop general killed in Ukraine?

Paratroopers land in open fields. Farmers fields. Eyewitness accounts all state the villagers/farmers heard the planes, trapped their Kalashnikovs, and shot every one of the paratroopers when they landed.

All the Russian ground assaults the Ukrainians repulsed? Rifles did that.

The reason the Russians haven’t taken Kyiv? Kalashnikovs and Molotov cocktail bombs. The Russians don’t dare go near an armed population - even if most are just ordinary people.

And this is supposed to be the worlds second best army, with jets, bombs, maybe even a nuke.

Anonymous wrote:I also would not be surprised if the Ukrainians are getting covert help from Western intel services. That would also explain a lot about why they’re locating these generals.

This is absolutely happening and I’m not even sure we’re being covert about it.
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-secret-cia-training-program-in-ukraine-helped-kyiv-prepare-for-russian-invasion-090052743.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALub9a2qe21ILoMPEObrFkoxCmwVsCAqkOuXe_NfDHjxxDhP6NavPnhsjUzE7WgwjKBl374yvzVK8O3vwlRMqUGsUuMLsRQJd-s09E-e8CA8o5j_GDNegZ86HPAx8lWmAi1HSpmr1ymvt5209LUI4BNnVhuFuhYaD2q-QTGwzmHE

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Anonymous wrote:Russian Major General slain

I wonder how they are killing these high ranking officers.

They are intercepting their calls and geolocatiing them. Apparently Russian secure communication ERA system does not work so Russian army communicating on not secure lines.

Exactly. Russia bombed the 3G towers that were necessary for their secure comms.

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Anonymous wrote:Russian Major General slain

I wonder how they are killing these high ranking officers.

Generals are too old and fat and out of shape to hump around on foot, so they ride in vehicles. Vehicles that are drawing bullets and rockets like flies to poop. How long do you think you’d survive in a place like that with hundreds of people shooting at you all day long from every direction?

If you are a general you have about 5-10k troops around you. This is not a TV show where you just walk up to a general and shoot him. If you approach within 1000m of a Russian base of operation or column they will fire on you. These are likely switchblade drone attacks.

Ukraine doesn’t have the switchblades yet.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Russian generals getting killed?

Because their non-commissioned officers and conscripts are not doing what they want.

Real battle leaders have to lead from the front; no one else is doing it so the Generals are doing it.
Problem for Russia is that when you are at the front you are exposed to enemy fire.

Russia has some very capable officers; but like any military they rely on their command chain to execute their orders. When that does not work senior officers are exposed to combat as the try to execute their orders.

This makes no sense. Generals do not lead from the front. It does not seem you have an understanding of how an army works.

Clearly you cannot read. Battle leaders are normally NCOs and junior officers. They are not doing their job so senior officers are trying take more direct field command and are at the front. Hence they are getting killed.

Anonymous wrote:Russian Major General slain

The General’s pronouns?

“Was,” and “were.”