Anonymous wrote:I’m OP and it isn’t a fake story….at least on my end. Someone said that it’s possible the kid’s mom lied to me. That is possible but I didn’t think likely. We’ve been friends a long time and she shares good and bad stuff about her kids.

It's not real, OP. If you knew anything about college athletics you could have trolled harder and better, but because you are just making stuff up because of your bizarre obsession with athletes, you didn't know that you included details that make it easy to spot the lies miles away.

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Anonymous wrote:This is our culture. I agree it makes no sense. Really what do sports have to do with pursuit of higher education? I don't think.any other countries play collegiate sports like we do. But you have to accept it as it is just the way it is here.

I do accept it but it’s crazy. His sat is about hundreds below the average accepted sat there.

Chiming as as the parent of a Division I athlete. There is a bit of a chicken and an egg problem with comparing the SAT scores of athletes vs. non-athletes. My current freshman initially got a 1300. We knew that was good enough for the schools he was targeting. He didn't need to take it again. But, because he consistently was scoring over 1400 on practice tests, he was annoyed. Took it again after many months and several cancellations because it was 2020 and scored a 1430. Lots of athletes in his position, wouldn't have bothered taking the SAT again. The advantage they have from being a recruited athletes saves them some trouble, but it doesn't necessarily tell you they are less qualified.

Anonymous wrote:I’m OP and it isn’t a fake story….at least on my end. Someone said that it’s possible the kid’s mom lied to me. That is possible but I didn’t think likely. We’ve been friends a long time and she shares good and bad stuff about her kids.

OP there is a difference between the coach offering their support to a player and admissions. There is a whole NCAA process that needs to be followed by schools. Giving your friend the benefit of the doubt, she sounds like she is either uneducated about the process or didn't convey it well to you.

That said your jealousy is not a good look. I guarantee you her DC put in 3-5 hours a day in season and 2+ hours a day in the off season and also got their homework done. It's not news that schools want kids who excel in another area in addition to academics.

Anonymous wrote:I’m OP and it isn’t a fake story….at least on my end. Someone said that it’s possible the kid’s mom lied to me. That is possible but I didn’t think likely. We’ve been friends a long time and she shares good and bad stuff about her kids.

We have no way to know if lies were involved or (to be charitable to you) if there was some sort of mutual misunderstanding. We just know that the situation you reported did not, and could not have, happened.

I highly doubt student athletes are being offered college admission without applying.

My DC is nationally ranked in their sport and attends a test-in magnet program with a 4.0 unweighted GPA. DC spends 99% of the day working on schoolwork or getting better at the sport they compete in. There are many athletes in a similar position. Frankly, schools like athletes-it shows their level of commitment and perseverance.

I highly doubt student athletes are being offered college admission without applying.

My DC is a nationally ranked nationally in their sport and is in a test-in magnet program with a 4.0 unweighted GPA. DC spends 99% of the day working on schoolwork or getting better at the sport they compete in. There are many athletes in a similar position. Frankly, schools like athletes-it shows their level of commitment and perseverance.

I’m OP and it isn’t a fake story….at least on my end. Someone said that it’s possible the kid’s mom lied to me. That is possible but I didn’t think likely. We’ve been friends a long time and she shares good and bad stuff about her kids.

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The point is - if there weren't athletes their academic grades and scores would not get them in.

The point is, this is generally wrong. At Ivies, all teams have Academic Index requirements. Research it. There may be a couple kids on the low end of the general student distribution, but then those are balanced by kids at the extreme high end. Way too many people commenting on this thread who have no actual knowledge of the rules and what actually happens.

It is not wrong. A kid I know was offered a spot at Columbia, Vanderbilt and Wesleyan without applying. NO application has been filled out. He’s taken the SAT three times and his super score is not even over 1000. He’s at a small public school with As, Bs and Cs. He hasn’t filled out a single college application yet. Zero. No common app. Nothing. He has taken a sprinkling of honors classes, zero AP classes. He’s played football all four years. Zero other activities.

Sorry guy, but this definitely didn't happen.

Well, it did. He took the spot at Wesleyan and filled the application out. He was promptly accepted. He chose that school bc his gf is a junior and he wants to stay relatively close to her.

Columbia certainly wouldn't have given him admissions support with that SAT score and grades like that. They might have recruited him early on and made some sort of "offer" contingent on bringing his grades up and his SAT up 300 points, but that's about it.

And you're also trying to convince us that this guy chose between D3 Wesleyan (LOL) and an SEC school? I think you've got at least a few parts of this story incorrect.

It's so obviously false to anyone who know anything about college athletics. I think this is just DCUMs obsessed athlete hater making up lies again to troll. It's sad.

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The point is - if there weren't athletes their academic grades and scores would not get them in.

The point is, this is generally wrong. At Ivies, all teams have Academic Index requirements. Research it. There may be a couple kids on the low end of the general student distribution, but then those are balanced by kids at the extreme high end. Way too many people commenting on this thread who have no actual knowledge of the rules and what actually happens.

It is not wrong. A kid I know was offered a spot at Columbia, Vanderbilt and Wesleyan without applying. NO application has been filled out. He’s taken the SAT three times and his super score is not even over 1000. He’s at a small public school with As, Bs and Cs. He hasn’t filled out a single college application yet. Zero. No common app. Nothing. He has taken a sprinkling of honors classes, zero AP classes. He’s played football all four years. Zero other activities.

Sorry guy, but this definitely didn't happen.

Well, it did. He took the spot at Wesleyan and filled the application out. He was promptly accepted. He chose that school bc his gf is a junior and he wants to stay relatively close to her.

DP. I see the PP is still doubling down on the fake story. What an idiot.

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The point is - if there weren't athletes their academic grades and scores would not get them in.

The point is, this is generally wrong. At Ivies, all teams have Academic Index requirements. Research it. There may be a couple kids on the low end of the general student distribution, but then those are balanced by kids at the extreme high end. Way too many people commenting on this thread who have no actual knowledge of the rules and what actually happens.

It is not wrong. A kid I know was offered a spot at Columbia, Vanderbilt and Wesleyan without applying. NO application has been filled out. He’s taken the SAT three times and his super score is not even over 1000. He’s at a small public school with As, Bs and Cs. He hasn’t filled out a single college application yet. Zero. No common app. Nothing. He has taken a sprinkling of honors classes, zero AP classes. He’s played football all four years. Zero other activities.

Sorry guy, but this definitely didn't happen.

Well, it did. He took the spot at Wesleyan and filled the application out. He was promptly accepted. He chose that school bc his gf is a junior and he wants to stay relatively close to her.

Columbia certainly wouldn't have given him admissions support with that SAT score and grades like that. They might have recruited him early on and made some sort of "offer" contingent on bringing his grades up and his SAT up 300 points, but that's about it.

And you're also trying to convince us that this guy chose between D3 Wesleyan (LOL) and an SEC school? I think you've got at least a few parts of this story incorrect.

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Anonymous wrote:

The point is - if there weren't athletes their academic grades and scores would not get them in.

The point is, this is generally wrong. At Ivies, all teams have Academic Index requirements. Research it. There may be a couple kids on the low end of the general student distribution, but then those are balanced by kids at the extreme high end. Way too many people commenting on this thread who have no actual knowledge of the rules and what actually happens.

It is not wrong. A kid I know was offered a spot at Columbia, Vanderbilt and Wesleyan without applying. NO application has been filled out. He’s taken the SAT three times and his super score is not even over 1000. He’s at a small public school with As, Bs and Cs. He hasn’t filled out a single college application yet. Zero. No common app. Nothing. He has taken a sprinkling of honors classes, zero AP classes. He’s played football all four years. Zero other activities.

Sorry guy, but this definitely didn't happen.

Well, it did. He took the spot at Wesleyan and filled the application out. He was promptly accepted. He chose that school bc his gf is a junior and he wants to stay relatively close to her.

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Anonymous wrote:

The point is - if there weren't athletes their academic grades and scores would not get them in.

The point is, this is generally wrong. At Ivies, all teams have Academic Index requirements. Research it. There may be a couple kids on the low end of the general student distribution, but then those are balanced by kids at the extreme high end. Way too many people commenting on this thread who have no actual knowledge of the rules and what actually happens.

It is not wrong. A kid I know was offered a spot at Columbia, Vanderbilt and Wesleyan without applying. NO application has been filled out. He’s taken the SAT three times and his super score is not even over 1000. He’s at a small public school with As, Bs and Cs. He hasn’t filled out a single college application yet. Zero. No common app. Nothing. He has taken a sprinkling of honors classes, zero AP classes. He’s played football all four years. Zero other activities.

Sorry guy, but this definitely didn't happen.

Anonymous wrote:I went to school with Mark Jackson one of the greatest NBA point guards ever. Went to final four in college.

Surprisingly he was an accounting major with a 4.00 GPA in major and passed all four parts CPA exam first time. He was also players union rep when played for knicks.

Some athletes are not extremely smart. The NY Jets currently has a player who is an actual Doctor with a medical degree. He played in 2021 season but took off 2020 season to work front lines during Covid surge.

This Mark Jackson?

I went to school with Mark Jackson one of the greatest NBA point guards ever. Went to final four in college.

Surprisingly he was an accounting major with a 4.00 GPA in major and passed all four parts CPA exam first time. He was also players union rep when played for knicks.

Some athletes are not extremely smart. The NY Jets currently has a player who is an actual Doctor with a medical degree. He played in 2021 season but took off 2020 season to work front lines during Covid surge.