Anonymous
09/03/2021 16:21
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:I refuse to believe that any kid making a La Liga academy wouldn't be on this highest team for any club they played for. I would assume that the worst player in any of those systems is better than the best youth player in the whole area and that it wouldn't be particularly close
I think you're out by a little bit. The very best players in this area (maybe as many as 6 or 8 per birth year) at this age are good enough to play for some La Liga academies, and maybe one or two of them even as good as the worst players at Barca/Real Madrid/Man City/Man Utd etc.
That said - I think you are absolutely correct that any kid making a La Liga academy would make the top team at SYC (or any other club) and that even I could spot the kid's ability let alone any soccer coach no matter how incompetent he might be.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 15:41
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
I refuse to believe that any kid making a La Liga academy wouldn't be on this highest team for any club they played for. I would assume that the worst player in any of those systems is better than the best youth player in the whole area and that it wouldn't be particularly close
Anonymous
09/03/2021 15:36
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^-- if you ever wanted to know about SYC coaches:
"Just because a kid is scoring goals at an academy in Spain doesn't mean he should've been selected by the Technical Director to play on the first team of CCL."
People, if you ever wanted to know what SYC is all about, it's making money. That's it. They have an inferiority complex with Arlington, McLean, and DC United. And their TD couldn't smell talent if you put it under his nose.
Not the PP - but if this academy is a Spanish professional club's youth academy then it means something. If it's just an amateur youth soccer club - then it's meaningless.
Still bitter about your DS not making the blue team, or the orange team probably for that matter. And if that's not the case, then why do you care? Why didn't your DS's team pick up that talented second-team player?
Previous parent of this age group. There's a common denominator. The only players that went up had a certain color, the only players that went down had a certain color.
So why is this 2nd team player at a Spanish academy and yet wasn't able to make it on the CCL team? Probably because he didn't fit in with the friend cliques. And about 3 players quit the top team every year
And we are to believe all those 2nd team players are landing at premier academies across the world. PP that brought up the scored-a-goal-at-a-Spanish academy conveniently hasn't come back to indicate if it's a professional academy or just another youth club like anywhere in the world.
You're not aware that a European academy is NOT like a youth club, specifically SYC right? Do you understand the differences (plural) between a youth club and an academy?
There are all sorts of organizations marketing themselves as "football academies" in Europe. Many of them market primarily to foreigners and accept anyone who can pay. Playing for such a "Spanish academy" indicates nothing wrt to talent - SYC's top team might easily be better. Equally there are professional LaLiga club's academies. Playing for one of those is at a much higher level. And at the very top you have Barcelona and Real Madrid, and maybe one or two others.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 15:22
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^-- if you ever wanted to know about SYC coaches:
"Just because a kid is scoring goals at an academy in Spain doesn't mean he should've been selected by the Technical Director to play on the first team of CCL."
People, if you ever wanted to know what SYC is all about, it's making money. That's it. They have an inferiority complex with Arlington, McLean, and DC United. And their TD couldn't smell talent if you put it under his nose.
Not the PP - but if this academy is a Spanish professional club's youth academy then it means something. If it's just an amateur youth soccer club - then it's meaningless.
Still bitter about your DS not making the blue team, or the orange team probably for that matter. And if that's not the case, then why do you care? Why didn't your DS's team pick up that talented second-team player?
My DS does not and has never played for SYC. Nor has he (or I) ever attempted to join SYC or even contacted them to make any inquiry about doing so. I have no skin in this game at all - I merely noted that the PP's point depends entirely on exactly what "A Spanish Academy" actually is.
If the PP shows back up here and clarifies that he is talking about Barcelona in Spain then I will be the first to agree that that strongly implies SYC's talent spotting is sub-standard. If, on the other hand, "A Spanish Academy" turns out to be Barca here in Northern Virginia then I would suggest that it is indeed meaningless. My point is merely that we need to know what "A Spanish Academy" actually is, before we can draw any conclusions from it.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 11:28
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^-- if you ever wanted to know about SYC coaches:
"Just because a kid is scoring goals at an academy in Spain doesn't mean he should've been selected by the Technical Director to play on the first team of CCL."
People, if you ever wanted to know what SYC is all about, it's making money. That's it. They have an inferiority complex with Arlington, McLean, and DC United. And their TD couldn't smell talent if you put it under his nose.
Not the PP - but if this academy is a Spanish professional club's youth academy then it means something. If it's just an amateur youth soccer club - then it's meaningless.
Still bitter about your DS not making the blue team, or the orange team probably for that matter. And if that's not the case, then why do you care? Why didn't your DS's team pick up that talented second-team player?
Previous parent of this age group. There's a common denominator. The only players that went up had a certain color, the only players that went down had a certain color.
So why is this 2nd team player at a Spanish academy and yet wasn't able to make it on the CCL team? Probably because he didn't fit in with the friend cliques. And about 3 players quit the top team every year
And we are to believe all those 2nd team players are landing at premier academies across the world. PP that brought up the scored-a-goal-at-a-Spanish academy conveniently hasn't come back to indicate if it's a professional academy or just another youth club like anywhere in the world.
No, you should believe the Technical Director of SYC is not much better at his job than any average coach.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 11:27
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^-- if you ever wanted to know about SYC coaches:
"Just because a kid is scoring goals at an academy in Spain doesn't mean he should've been selected by the Technical Director to play on the first team of CCL."
People, if you ever wanted to know what SYC is all about, it's making money. That's it. They have an inferiority complex with Arlington, McLean, and DC United. And their TD couldn't smell talent if you put it under his nose.
Not the PP - but if this academy is a Spanish professional club's youth academy then it means something. If it's just an amateur youth soccer club - then it's meaningless.
Still bitter about your DS not making the blue team, or the orange team probably for that matter. And if that's not the case, then why do you care? Why didn't your DS's team pick up that talented second-team player?
Previous parent of this age group. There's a common denominator. The only players that went up had a certain color, the only players that went down had a certain color.
So why is this 2nd team player at a Spanish academy and yet wasn't able to make it on the CCL team? Probably because he didn't fit in with the friend cliques. And about 3 players quit the top team every year
And we are to believe all those 2nd team players are landing at premier academies across the world. PP that brought up the scored-a-goal-at-a-Spanish academy conveniently hasn't come back to indicate if it's a professional academy or just another youth club like anywhere in the world.
You're not aware that a European academy is NOT like a youth club, specifically SYC right? Do you understand the differences (plural) between a youth club and an academy?
Anonymous
09/03/2021 11:22
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^-- if you ever wanted to know about SYC coaches:
"Just because a kid is scoring goals at an academy in Spain doesn't mean he should've been selected by the Technical Director to play on the first team of CCL."
People, if you ever wanted to know what SYC is all about, it's making money. That's it. They have an inferiority complex with Arlington, McLean, and DC United. And their TD couldn't smell talent if you put it under his nose.
Not the PP - but if this academy is a Spanish professional club's youth academy then it means something. If it's just an amateur youth soccer club - then it's meaningless.
Still bitter about your DS not making the blue team, or the orange team probably for that matter. And if that's not the case, then why do you care? Why didn't your DS's team pick up that talented second-team player?
Previous parent of this age group. There's a common denominator. The only players that went up had a certain color, the only players that went down had a certain color.
So why is this 2nd team player at a Spanish academy and yet wasn't able to make it on the CCL team? Probably because he didn't fit in with the friend cliques. And about 3 players quit the top team every year
And we are to believe all those 2nd team players are landing at premier academies across the world. PP that brought up the scored-a-goal-at-a-Spanish academy conveniently hasn't come back to indicate if it's a professional academy or just another youth club like anywhere in the world.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 11:21
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^-- if you ever wanted to know about SYC coaches:
"Just because a kid is scoring goals at an academy in Spain doesn't mean he should've been selected by the Technical Director to play on the first team of CCL."
People, if you ever wanted to know what SYC is all about, it's making money. That's it. They have an inferiority complex with Arlington, McLean, and DC United. And their TD couldn't smell talent if you put it under his nose.
Not the PP - but if this academy is a Spanish professional club's youth academy then it means something. If it's just an amateur youth soccer club - then it's meaningless.
Still bitter about your DS not making the blue team, or the orange team probably for that matter. And if that's not the case, then why do you care? Why didn't your DS's team pick up that talented second-team player?
Previous parent of this age group. There's a common denominator. The only players that went up had a certain color, the only players that went down had a certain color.
So why is this 2nd team player at a Spanish academy and yet wasn't able to make it on the CCL team? Probably because he didn't fit in with the friend cliques. And about 3 players quit the top team every year
Are you insinuating non-brown kids are the ones being kept off the top team? If so, you're contradicting that racist lens because that narrative goes against the stereotype about styles of play discussed earlier. If you're insinuating white kids are the ones making the top team then you're still taking a bitter stereotype view. It's anonymous message board--why are you scared to just say you think SYC brings race and racial stereotypes into their decision making? GTFOH.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 10:20
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^-- if you ever wanted to know about SYC coaches:
"Just because a kid is scoring goals at an academy in Spain doesn't mean he should've been selected by the Technical Director to play on the first team of CCL."
People, if you ever wanted to know what SYC is all about, it's making money. That's it. They have an inferiority complex with Arlington, McLean, and DC United. And their TD couldn't smell talent if you put it under his nose.
Not the PP - but if this academy is a Spanish professional club's youth academy then it means something. If it's just an amateur youth soccer club - then it's meaningless.
Still bitter about your DS not making the blue team, or the orange team probably for that matter. And if that's not the case, then why do you care? Why didn't your DS's team pick up that talented second-team player?
Previous parent of this age group. There's a common denominator. The only players that went up had a certain color, the only players that went down had a certain color.
So why is this 2nd team player at a Spanish academy and yet wasn't able to make it on the CCL team? Probably because he didn't fit in with the friend cliques. And about 3 players quit the top team every year
Anonymous
09/03/2021 10:00
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Does SYC remind anyone of the fat kid who bullies the even more unpopular kids, but still get get accepted by the popular kids?
you hit the nail on the head so hard that it went through the board
Anonymous
09/03/2021 09:39
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Does SYC remind anyone of the fat kid who bullies the even more unpopular kids, but still get get accepted by the popular kids?
Anonymous
09/03/2021 09:37
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^-- if you ever wanted to know about SYC coaches:
"Just because a kid is scoring goals at an academy in Spain doesn't mean he should've been selected by the Technical Director to play on the first team of CCL."
People, if you ever wanted to know what SYC is all about, it's making money. That's it. They have an inferiority complex with Arlington, McLean, and DC United. And their TD couldn't smell talent if you put it under his nose.
Not the PP - but if this academy is a Spanish professional club's youth academy then it means something. If it's just an amateur youth soccer club - then it's meaningless.
Still bitter about your DS not making the blue team, or the orange team probably for that matter. And if that's not the case, then why do you care? Why didn't your DS's team pick up that talented second-team player?
Anonymous
09/03/2021 09:28
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
what was said on the most recent lmvsc thread that got it taken down completely? I'm sure someone here saw it before it got taken down, especially the SYC defenders always instigating on there. LOL
Anonymous
09/03/2021 09:02
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^-- if you ever wanted to know about SYC coaches:
"Just because a kid is scoring goals at an academy in Spain doesn't mean he should've been selected by the Technical Director to play on the first team of CCL."
People, if you ever wanted to know what SYC is all about, it's making money. That's it. They have an inferiority complex with Arlington, McLean, and DC United. And their TD couldn't smell talent if you put it under his nose.
Not the PP - but if this academy is a Spanish professional club's youth academy then it means something. If it's just an amateur youth soccer club - then it's meaningless.
Did, did you realize you were saying SYC is meaningless or are you such a cheerleader you didn’t even realize it?
1. I'm not an SYC cheerleader by any means. In fact I think they are going to struggle in MLS Next for at least the forseeable future - and that is at least partly because the coaching is not as good as some other local clubs.
2. Nevertheless I don't think that you can logically conclude that SYC is meaningless based on what I said.
The first poster in this particular discussion noted that a kid who languished on the SYC second team was now playing for, and succeeding at, "a Spanish academy" and suggested that that proved that SYC's talent assessment/selection was very poor.
My counterpoint was that if the Spanish academy was clearly of a higher standard than SYC's first team then I would accept that it did indeed prove that SYC's talent selection was poor. On the other hand if this kid was just playing for any old Spanish kids' team of unknown talent level, then it did not prove anything one way or the other (i.e. it was meaningless) about SYC's ability to spot and select talent.
So the only thing you could logically conclude in terms of the absolute ability of teams and the amount of meaning that could conseuqently be ascribed to them is that I view SYC as less meaningful than a Spanish professional soccer club. But that should not be a surprise to anyone, and is not at all the same as meaningless.
it's not hard, is the kid doing better in Spain or the United States? - Spain
This was my point - and my only point. How do you know the kid is doing better in Spain? That depends entirely on what "a Spanish academy" actually is, doesn't it? I have no idea whether the previous poster is referring to the youth academy of a La Liga team, or just a village club somewhere in Spain. The two are very different.
did coaches in a higher competitive market and environment see something that SYC Technical Director did not? - yes
You are making the assumption that "a Spanish academy" is a higher competitive market than SYC. That may well be true, or it may not. We need to know which Spanish academy in order to make that determination.
as for you questions, SYC cheerleader, all that i got from you is "SYC is meaningless". and i agree.
I am really not an SYC cheerleader - and I don't understand why you think I am. I don't think the SYC coaches are very good. I don't like the way the teams play. I don't think the teams are competitive with the top clubs in the area. I don't think SYC is going to be successful in MLS Next.
None of that means that I am going to abandon logic though, even if you do so.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 08:59
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:DS's previous teammate was on the second team (orange) in the 2006 group and tried desperately to get on the first team (blue team, this was EM's team, the Technical Director). Told no despite the first team not exactly getting the wins... 7th in CCL and 2nd in EDP, tossed out of State Cup.
Well, DS just showed me a video of of his previous teammate scoring a goal at an academy in Spain.
This shows you the ability of the Technical Director, EM, to identify talent and form a development plan. Which is none. Which is no wonder why he chose the rosters the way he did. His practices was mainly scrimmaging and his games were mainly kickball to the fastest players. EM would never watch players on the second team at combined practices and didn't go to a single second team (orange game) all year. If you didn't have "the look", EM doesn't bother.
We’ll this sounds just like his brother PM style as well. My kid says unless you look like a “sweaty” kid or you kiss a$$ you don’t get a chance or become a bench warmer in the team. They sure do like a specific style, those that run like headless chickens all the time. Because that’s how they look when they play Arlington or any MLS teams.