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Anonymous wrote:Rebecca was somehow an expert on the NYC subway system?come on writers. Wealthy people do not and definitely DID not ride the subway when making special trips to the city. Even if her dad has taken her on the subway as a child she would have been holding her parents hands and rushing through the terminals not understanding what was going on let alone remembering how to get all over the city by subway.
Completely ridiculous.

You think her family stopped going to New York once she was older?

And everyone takes the subway when they're in a hurry.

Anonymous wrote:Rebecca was somehow an expert on the NYC subway system?come on writers. Wealthy people do not and definitely DID not ride the subway when making special trips to the city. Even if her dad has taken her on the subway as a child she would have been holding her parents hands and rushing through the terminals not understanding what was going on let alone remembering how to get all over the city by subway.
Completely ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote: The last scene, I cried buckets. Imagine carrying that with you your entire life.

But he is not being open minded about accepting what Rebecca wants.

i saw that last scene as something he wanted to say, but never had the guts to do it. so he blames himself for his dads death. and has been trying to make up for it his whole life.

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Anonymous wrote:What did we learn in the 40th birthday flash forward? Were the brothers not speaking to each other or something? I forget.

Rebecca asks if Randall is coming and Kevin says no, we're not speaking. Remember mom?

Unclear to me if Kevin meant HE and Randall aren't speaking or Randall isn't speaking to any of them.

I am wondering if Rebecca did something to upset Randall's family because it seems like it is also going to be hard for Tess to visit Rebecca.

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Anonymous wrote:What did we learn in the 40th birthday flash forward? Were the brothers not speaking to each other or something? I forget.

Rebecca asks if Randall is coming and Kevin says no, we're not speaking. Remember mom?

Unclear to me if Kevin meant HE and Randall aren't speaking or Randall isn't speaking to any of them.

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Anonymous wrote: The last scene, I cried buckets. Imagine carrying that with you your entire life.

But he is not being open minded about accepting what Rebecca wants.

i saw that last scene as something he wanted to say, but never had the guts to do it. so he blames himself for his dads death. and has been trying to make up for it his whole life.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree that Randall has become insufferable - smug, sanctimonious, and holier-than-thou. Also agree that the last scene was a heartbreaker. But I’m thinking Randall needs a lot more therapy to get beyond his issues. He’s just incredibly annoying and controlling right now.

What has happened to Dave Annable? His voice is so hard to listen to. I don’t recall him having that strange voice/lisp when he was on Brothers & Sisters - anyone else? I was SO glad Rebecca ditched him (politely, of course). He’s not worthy.

Agree about his voice. So strange. Why was his hair like that?
It actually really bothered me she kept flip-flopping with him. These characters are so self-involved. He thinks horse and carriage rides are cheesey and terrible for the horses? They are! Chill out, Rebecca.

And the Rebecca and Jack perfect couple thing is just TOOOOO MUCH already. Your husband getting your family lost in NYC because he won't listen to you is infuriating. Not, hey, what's going on with you, babe, stop, you're the best babe, let's get pretzels and make out now.

I think she was just really sensitive about the carriage ride because Jack had made it a fun, special experience for the whole family and she didn't appreciate it being called "cheesy." But I totally agree with your last paragraph - it's tiresome seeing perfect Jack and Rebecca, always so kind and respectful to each other. I mean, it would be great if that was real life for long-married couples, but we all usually have some moments we aren't proud of. I wish they'd show something like that. And agree about the making out in front of the kids scene. A kiss? No problem. But it was a little gross that they kept at it.

They DID show something like that a few seasons back, when there was significant tension between Rebecca and Jack when he was drinking and she was singing professionally again.

I'm talking about the more mundane moments in life - not dealing with a big crisis. Just a bad mood or a snippy remark. We never see them behaving the way real couples often do.

How are they perfect? Jack fees insecure because Rebecca is more cultured and had nicer childhood memories so he gets testy and anxious. Rebecca feels she needs to present her perfect memories and parents in a bad light to placate him. He won’t learn from her, he won’t let her lead. How is this a perfect relationship?

Because the little tensions are resolved too easily. In a real couple, if the guy's insecurities are making him a jerk when he gets the family lost in the city, his wife asking, "Hey, Babe, what's going on with you?" wouldn't elicit an instant heartfelt, vulnerable admission about his insecurity.

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Anonymous wrote: The last scene, I cried buckets. Imagine carrying that with you your entire life.

But he is not being open minded about accepting what Rebecca wants.

i saw that last scene as something he wanted to say, but never had the guts to do it. so he blames himself for his dads death. and has been trying to make up for it his whole life.

Yeah, I thought Jack DID go back in for the dog when the fire episode aired last year. Or am I making that up in my head?

He did and that's why he died. Randall thinks if he'd only stepped up, he would be alive today. This has had lifelong ramifications and why he confronted the intruder and purse snatcher.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree that Randall has become insufferable - smug, sanctimonious, and holier-than-thou. Also agree that the last scene was a heartbreaker. But I’m thinking Randall needs a lot more therapy to get beyond his issues. He’s just incredibly annoying and controlling right now.

What has happened to Dave Annable? His voice is so hard to listen to. I don’t recall him having that strange voice/lisp when he was on Brothers & Sisters - anyone else? I was SO glad Rebecca ditched him (politely, of course). He’s not worthy.

Agree about his voice. So strange. Why was his hair like that?
It actually really bothered me she kept flip-flopping with him. These characters are so self-involved. He thinks horse and carriage rides are cheesey and terrible for the horses? They are! Chill out, Rebecca.

And the Rebecca and Jack perfect couple thing is just TOOOOO MUCH already. Your husband getting your family lost in NYC because he won't listen to you is infuriating. Not, hey, what's going on with you, babe, stop, you're the best babe, let's get pretzels and make out now.

YES! There were so many strange things going on. Rebecca gushing about her trips as a child, but then telling Jack her dad would lose his temper and her mom got so drunk she got them thrown out of a play? But it was "Dad's City."

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Anonymous wrote: The last scene, I cried buckets. Imagine carrying that with you your entire life.

But he is not being open minded about accepting what Rebecca wants.

i saw that last scene as something he wanted to say, but never had the guts to do it. so he blames himself for his dads death. and has been trying to make up for it his whole life.

Yeah, I thought Jack DID go back in for the dog when the fire episode aired last year. Or am I making that up in my head?

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Anonymous wrote: The last scene, I cried buckets. Imagine carrying that with you your entire life.

But he is not being open minded about accepting what Rebecca wants.

i saw that last scene as something he wanted to say, but never had the guts to do it. so he blames himself for his dads death. and has been trying to make up for it his whole life.