Anonymous
04/22/2019 05:38
Subject: Re:Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:The upper class know when to cut their losses--Felicity Huffman
The working class/middle class don't necessarily--Lori Loughlin
+1. Huffman is from an upper class family that knows when to quit and make a quiet exit.
Anonymous
04/22/2019 05:21
Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No tattoos, proper grammar, no smoking, well fitted and tasteful clothes, shoes not down at the heels, well spoken and thoughtful, not reactionary or too loud in appearance or demeanor, everyone in family has at least a Bachelor's, ability to discuss politics or world dynamics without getting personal or overly hysterical, limited and tasteful FB/special media posts
Lots of upper class folks in worn shoes, especially among the waspy horsy types.
Lots of people beyond upper middle class that smoke. It’s almost like a bell curve.
Er, no. Smoking is an indicator that someone has no class. Regardless of the income/wealth level. You can't buy class, and a smoker doesn't have it.
Everyone has a socioeconomic class. That's what we are discussing here. Not "is this classy?"
Anonymous
04/22/2019 03:49
Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No tattoos, proper grammar, no smoking, well fitted and tasteful clothes, shoes not down at the heels, well spoken and thoughtful, not reactionary or too loud in appearance or demeanor, everyone in family has at least a Bachelor's, ability to discuss politics or world dynamics without getting personal or overly hysterical, limited and tasteful FB/special media posts
Lots of upper class folks in worn shoes, especially among the waspy horsy types.
Lots of people beyond upper middle class that smoke. It’s almost like a bell curve.
Er, no. Smoking is an indicator that someone has no class. Regardless of the income/wealth level. You can't buy class, and a smoker doesn't have it.
Anonymous
04/22/2019 02:04
Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Houseplants and good lighting.
Not houseplants. Fresh flowers, yes.
No my dear. Oranges from your orangerie.
Anonymous
04/22/2019 01:27
Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:Houseplants and good lighting.
Not houseplants. Fresh flowers, yes.
Anonymous
04/21/2019 22:04
Subject: Re:Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:Clean and clutter free.
And art on the walls rather than photographs of the couple everywhere (a definite sign of low class).
Well, given the endless piles of clutter in our home, I guess we’re low-class. We’re too busy raising kids while running the country to make our home picture-perfect for architectural magazine. If I quit my job and instead spend my time focused on interior design perhaps I can meet DCUM’s definition of high-class.
Anonymous
04/21/2019 20:49
Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No tattoos, proper grammar, no smoking, well fitted and tasteful clothes, shoes not down at the heels, well spoken and thoughtful, not reactionary or too loud in appearance or demeanor, everyone in family has at least a Bachelor's, ability to discuss politics or world dynamics without getting personal or overly hysterical, limited and tasteful FB/special media posts
Lots of upper class folks in worn shoes, especially among the waspy horsy types.
Lots of people beyond upper middle class that smoke. It’s almost like a bell curve.
Anonymous
04/20/2019 16:56
Subject: Re:Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:EXTRA CHILDREN YOU PICKED UP FOR FUN
Lol.
Anonymous
04/20/2019 10:17
Subject: Re:Subtle signs of class
OMG. From the Mittford piece about "hurrying": "This behaviour would reveal yourself to be someone trying to get ahead in life, perhaps in the vulgar pursuit of money. This would be non-U."
Times change obviously. There is a long thread in the college forum about "strivers" which whipped up quite a bit of controversy.
Times change obviously. There is a long thread in the college forum about "strivers" which whipped up quite a bit of controversy.
Anonymous
04/20/2019 10:10
Subject: Re:Subtle signs of class
The upper class know when to cut their losses--Felicity Huffman
The working class/middle class don't necessarily--Lori Loughlin
The working class/middle class don't necessarily--Lori Loughlin
Anonymous
04/20/2019 10:02
Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if that Stickley poster had just said “dining table and chairs” instead of “dining set” the past five pages could have been avoided????
Why didn’t you just tell her that she shouldn’t use the phrase “set” instead of making her think the problem is her furniture.
Yes--amazing isn't it?
Reminds me of Nancy Mitford's U vs. non-U. Update on her observations from the 1950s.
https://www.tatler.com/article/nancy-mitford-u-and-non-u-language
Um way to bury the lead, she published it in a CIA-funded literary magazine??
That part was new to me as well and amusing. Not sure she knew that when she published.
Anonymous
04/20/2019 09:51
Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if that Stickley poster had just said “dining table and chairs” instead of “dining set” the past five pages could have been avoided????
Why didn’t you just tell her that she shouldn’t use the phrase “set” instead of making her think the problem is her furniture.
Yes--amazing isn't it?
Reminds me of Nancy Mitford's U vs. non-U. Update on her observations from the 1950s.
https://www.tatler.com/article/nancy-mitford-u-and-non-u-language
Um way to bury the lead, she published it in a CIA-funded literary magazine??
Anonymous
04/20/2019 09:41
Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:So if that Stickley poster had just said “dining table and chairs” instead of “dining set” the past five pages could have been avoided????
Why didn’t you just tell her that she shouldn’t use the phrase “set” instead of making her think the problem is her furniture.
Yes--amazing isn't it?
Reminds me of Nancy Mitford's U vs. non-U. Update on her observations from the 1950s.
https://www.tatler.com/article/nancy-mitford-u-and-non-u-language
Anonymous
04/20/2019 09:27
Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Even buying a "set" with matching table and chairs (which is what I assumed you meant by "dining set") is a class marker. It's silly, maybe, but it is what it is. My parents did not inherit a lot, but they never bought sets. And they mixed-and-matched estate pieces with custom furniture. E.g. their dining room furniture is a mix of antique chairs that have been reupholstered and a custom dining table (Henredon and Baker, I think, but I'm not sure).
So your parents furniture doesn’t match (and is probably looking worn). What about YOUR furniture? You’re an adult. Time to stop talking about what your parents have
Not sure why the hostility. My parents have 12 matching, antique dining room chairs (two with arms) that are reupholstered. I think the patina might be original, but either way the finish is almost perfect. They paid quite a premium for that at auction. PP asked a question about why people were suggesting that a "dining set" is a class indicator, and I'm explaining. I don't think it's better...it just is what it is.
The majority of my furniture is new or used but not antique. I like cleaner lines than what my parents like. But I also don't like matching sets (maybe because of how I grew up), so the pieces have been purchased individually. Like Stacey and Clinton from WNTW, they don't match, they "go".
I don't really care about any of this, but I am aware that people notice these things. And it is a class advantage to have been raised in a certain way that defines your tastes etc. That advantage matters more in some settings than others. If it doesn't matter to your life or job, NBD. But it matters in politics, so it matters to a lot of people in DC.
You can learn all this “classy” stuff from an ikea catalogue. They don’t do sets either.
Aaaand the trolls have arrived.
Anonymous
04/20/2019 09:15
Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Really because I'm extremely bored by this whole post and the asinine "dining set" thing.
Question: Lindsay Lohan. Was once classy? Was never classy? What about when she was in The Parent Trap?
What about Anne Hathaway? She seems so stuck up yet also so annoying so I can't tell if that is classy.
Also, Lisa Vanderpump. Pros: accent, swans. Cons: cleavage, house is made of mall glass.
Amen PP. I'll talk to you.
Lindsay -- nah. Praying to the gods of DCUM that her British twin from the Parent Trap is living a classier life, however we choose to define it today, though.
Anne Hathaway -- her PR team is working overtime to make "AH is classy" happen but it's fake. I'm sure she's nice and all, the imagine she projects seems so put on.
Lisa Vanderpump -- HA!
How about Countess Luann or Lisa Rinna? Or the RHOP ladies?
LOL at MALL GLASS. And no I don't think child stars can be classy except for a few rare cases. And it ultimately depends on how they handle the fame.