Anonymous
04/26/2019 11:53
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
The ECNL College Impact for the Ivy League Conference includes all players currently active on Ivy League rosters:
Nov. 2018
138 ECNL Alums are currently playing in the Ivy League Conference.
Ivy League Offensive Player of the Year (Mimi Asom), Ivy League Defensive Player of the Year (Camillia Nwokedi) and Ivy League Rookie of the Year (Rebecca Rosen) are ECNL Alums.
6 of 12 players on the All-Ivy League First Team are ECNL Alums.
The Ivy League Conference includes Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Harvard University, University of Pennsylvania, Princeton University and Yale University.
Nov. 2018
138 ECNL Alums are currently playing in the Ivy League Conference.
Ivy League Offensive Player of the Year (Mimi Asom), Ivy League Defensive Player of the Year (Camillia Nwokedi) and Ivy League Rookie of the Year (Rebecca Rosen) are ECNL Alums.
6 of 12 players on the All-Ivy League First Team are ECNL Alums.
The Ivy League Conference includes Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Harvard University, University of Pennsylvania, Princeton University and Yale University.
Anonymous
04/26/2019 11:49
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
DORRANCE: Dorrance, who coached the U.S. to the inaugural Women’s World Cup tile in 1991, is among those unhappy with the in-fighting.
“Please don’t try and pretend because 70 percent of the players on a youth national team are from the DA, you’re developing them,” he told Soccer America. “You and I both know they ripped these kids off from ECNL teams.”
“Please don’t try and pretend because 70 percent of the players on a youth national team are from the DA, you’re developing them,” he told Soccer America. “You and I both know they ripped these kids off from ECNL teams.”
Anonymous
04/26/2019 11:41
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet club after club after club is leaving DA only.to be replaced by NPL teams
And yet DA is morphing into ECNL to save the league.
They are not going to ECNL because they believe in ECNL, they are going because they will be able to charge ECNL prices for 40 kids per age group instead of 20 kids per age group.
They will water down their own brand by turning NPL into ECNL2. Change the name and double the price. Chhhaaaa ching!!!!
How long do you really think ECNL 2 will last when parents are paying higher prices, for further travel than NPL and still be on the B team?
My kid will never play ECNL 2. Unlike you, I dont care what path parents choose to take.
Why are you not in Colorado right now?
Colorado has internet, caveman. Is every ECNLer as clueless as you? That would explain quite a bit of this problem
Good thing to know the DA'ers are posting at 6 am on a ECNL thread while 10 states away during a college showcase. Shows the level of insanity if true.
What empty football stadium is your kid playing HS kickball in this week?
Why do you care? My daughter is an ECNL player who will be a freshman next year. If she WANTS to represent her school, we will not stand in her way. It isn't about is the quality of the training or the level of competition (clearly HS soccer isn't that good), it is 100% about representing your school and having a little fun. It seems like far too many of you (on both ECNL and DA side) have forgotten that your 14-17 year old is a kid who might ENJOY being a normal kid playing soccer on their school team.
That is a nice choice to have next year. Play in a empty stadium or have half the ECNL practices with a half the team next spring.
You are a pr@#k and have lost all crediability at this point.
Sorry, but it is the truth. And I am being sincere here, it sucks that women's sports are devalued but they are. It is just a fact. Your kid will wear the school jersey and all that and it is great, but that still will not fill the stadium that is purpose built for another sport, a sport played by boys.
And if she decides it isn't for her and wishes to stay with club, all she is going to get are fewer practices with many teammates gone because they are playing HS Soccer. Meanwhile, you are still stuck with a 4k bill that one way or another you got short changed.
Anonymous
04/26/2019 11:36
Subject: Re:More defections from DA to ECNL
HS soccer was an amazing experience for me. Varsity Freshmen year and a State Champ title. Pulling back into the school parking lot on the team bus after the game with the entire HS waiting and cheering was up there past all of the League titles, State Cup wins and Regional titles with my Club team.
If it were allowed today, the level of HS play would be higher and there would be less chance of injury playing it with more experienced players on the field.
Let’s face it, the vast majority of these girls aren’t going to be USWNT players or pros.
If it were allowed today, the level of HS play would be higher and there would be less chance of injury playing it with more experienced players on the field.
Let’s face it, the vast majority of these girls aren’t going to be USWNT players or pros.
Anonymous
04/26/2019 11:35
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet club after club after club is leaving DA only.to be replaced by NPL teams
And yet DA is morphing into ECNL to save the league.
They are not going to ECNL because they believe in ECNL, they are going because they will be able to charge ECNL prices for 40 kids per age group instead of 20 kids per age group.
They will water down their own brand by turning NPL into ECNL2. Change the name and double the price. Chhhaaaa ching!!!!
How long do you really think ECNL 2 will last when parents are paying higher prices, for further travel than NPL and still be on the B team?
My kid will never play ECNL 2. Unlike you, I dont care what path parents choose to take.
Why are you not in Colorado right now?
Colorado has internet, caveman. Is every ECNLer as clueless as you? That would explain quite a bit of this problem
Good thing to know the DA'ers are posting at 6 am on a ECNL thread while 10 states away during a college showcase. Shows the level of insanity if true.
What empty football stadium is your kid playing HS kickball in this week?
And your not at Colorado.
ANSON DORRANCE: U.S. Soccer has got some tremendous coaches who I respect immensely on women’s side. And I also have huge respect for people like [ECNL president] Christian Lavers and many others on the ECNL side who have been doing an incredible job across the country.
ANSON DORRANCE: I mean where did Mallory Pugh come from? She developed in an ECNL club [Real Colorado] that allowed her to play high school soccer and she’s a fantastic example of our ECNL coaches and the American player development environment at its best.
ANSON DORRANCE: I’m always afraid of an individual or a collection of individuals who really feel like they’ve solved the player development conundrum. I get nervous when all of a sudden we’ve discovered this is a certain way that we have to develop our players.
NEED HIS EMAIL?
Just curious, was there a girls DA when Mal Pugh was coming up through the youth system?
Yeah, I didn't think so.
So the argument is that because we developed players into national team roles prior to DA that it isn't needed? That ECNL is as good as because it was a de facto top league prior to DA?
Yes and Pugh ALSO decided that College soccer (School Soccer) was not in her best interest for further development and turned pro sooner. I'm sure she is missing out on the college experience though.
We will simply never catch up with the rest of the world in soccer, on the men's side certainly, and we are losing traction on the women's because of our obsession with School sports, whether it be High School or College.
So that is all fine and we know that 99% of the players will not turn pro or play at a National level. But if Dorance believes that the college game, regardless of the path that players arrive there, will continue to develop professional and national level players beyond what European Academies are doing he is living in the past.
Anonymous
04/26/2019 11:28
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet club after club after club is leaving DA only.to be replaced by NPL teams
And yet DA is morphing into ECNL to save the league.
They are not going to ECNL because they believe in ECNL, they are going because they will be able to charge ECNL prices for 40 kids per age group instead of 20 kids per age group.
They will water down their own brand by turning NPL into ECNL2. Change the name and double the price. Chhhaaaa ching!!!!
How long do you really think ECNL 2 will last when parents are paying higher prices, for further travel than NPL and still be on the B team?
My kid will never play ECNL 2. Unlike you, I dont care what path parents choose to take.
Why are you not in Colorado right now?
Colorado has internet, caveman. Is every ECNLer as clueless as you? That would explain quite a bit of this problem
Good thing to know the DA'ers are posting at 6 am on a ECNL thread while 10 states away during a college showcase. Shows the level of insanity if true.
What empty football stadium is your kid playing HS kickball in this week?
Why do you care? My daughter is an ECNL player who will be a freshman next year. If she WANTS to represent her school, we will not stand in her way. It isn't about is the quality of the training or the level of competition (clearly HS soccer isn't that good), it is 100% about representing your school and having a little fun. It seems like far too many of you (on both ECNL and DA side) have forgotten that your 14-17 year old is a kid who might ENJOY being a normal kid playing soccer on their school team.
That is a nice choice to have next year. Play in a empty stadium or have half the ECNL practices with a half the team next spring.
You are a pr@#k and have lost all crediability at this point.
Anonymous
04/26/2019 11:26
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet club after club after club is leaving DA only.to be replaced by NPL teams
And yet DA is morphing into ECNL to save the league.
They are not going to ECNL because they believe in ECNL, they are going because they will be able to charge ECNL prices for 40 kids per age group instead of 20 kids per age group.
They will water down their own brand by turning NPL into ECNL2. Change the name and double the price. Chhhaaaa ching!!!!
How long do you really think ECNL 2 will last when parents are paying higher prices, for further travel than NPL and still be on the B team?
My kid will never play ECNL 2. Unlike you, I dont care what path parents choose to take.
Why are you not in Colorado right now?
Colorado has internet, caveman. Is every ECNLer as clueless as you? That would explain quite a bit of this problem
Good thing to know the DA'ers are posting at 6 am on a ECNL thread while 10 states away during a college showcase. Shows the level of insanity if true.
Colorado is only 2 hours back, dimwit. The post you responded to was ~8am local time in Denver.
The insanity of ECNLers shows in the creation and maintenance of this thread.
Been posting since 8am EST.
Would you like Dorrance email so you can school him?
two things:
1. you are confusing posters. There's more than one...probably quite a few
2. the dorrance comments you posted are very non-commital and political. I wouldn't expect anything less, but hardly a ringing endorsement of ecnl as "the way"
It's wasnt posted to say he thought it was the way. Stop being so hyper sensitive. In fact,....
DORRANCE: However, these college coaches also stressed that players need to play for whatever club team is the best fit for them. Anson Dorrance, Head Coach of UNC women’s soccer, encouraged players to seek a coach they love playing for (and who makes them better) and teammates they love playing with. He said worry about your coach, teammates, and training environment before worrying about “all the initials” (i.e. ECNL, ODP, DA, PDP, etc.).
Anonymous
04/26/2019 11:22
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet club after club after club is leaving DA only.to be replaced by NPL teams
And yet DA is morphing into ECNL to save the league.
They are not going to ECNL because they believe in ECNL, they are going because they will be able to charge ECNL prices for 40 kids per age group instead of 20 kids per age group.
They will water down their own brand by turning NPL into ECNL2. Change the name and double the price. Chhhaaaa ching!!!!
How long do you really think ECNL 2 will last when parents are paying higher prices, for further travel than NPL and still be on the B team?
My kid will never play ECNL 2. Unlike you, I dont care what path parents choose to take.
Why are you not in Colorado right now?
Colorado has internet, caveman. Is every ECNLer as clueless as you? That would explain quite a bit of this problem
Good thing to know the DA'ers are posting at 6 am on a ECNL thread while 10 states away during a college showcase. Shows the level of insanity if true.
Colorado is only 2 hours back, dimwit. The post you responded to was ~8am local time in Denver.
The insanity of ECNLers shows in the creation and maintenance of this thread.
Been posting since 8am EST.
Would you like Dorrance email so you can school him?
two things:
1. you are confusing posters. There's more than one...probably quite a few
2. the dorrance comments you posted are very non-commital and political. I wouldn't expect anything less, but hardly a ringing endorsement of ecnl as "the way"
Anonymous
04/26/2019 11:22
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet club after club after club is leaving DA only.to be replaced by NPL teams
And yet DA is morphing into ECNL to save the league.
They are not going to ECNL because they believe in ECNL, they are going because they will be able to charge ECNL prices for 40 kids per age group instead of 20 kids per age group.
They will water down their own brand by turning NPL into ECNL2. Change the name and double the price. Chhhaaaa ching!!!!
How long do you really think ECNL 2 will last when parents are paying higher prices, for further travel than NPL and still be on the B team?
My kid will never play ECNL 2. Unlike you, I dont care what path parents choose to take.
Why are you not in Colorado right now?
Colorado has internet, caveman. Is every ECNLer as clueless as you? That would explain quite a bit of this problem
Good thing to know the DA'ers are posting at 6 am on a ECNL thread while 10 states away during a college showcase. Shows the level of insanity if true.
What empty football stadium is your kid playing HS kickball in this week?
Why do you care? My daughter is an ECNL player who will be a freshman next year. If she WANTS to represent her school, we will not stand in her way. It isn't about is the quality of the training or the level of competition (clearly HS soccer isn't that good), it is 100% about representing your school and having a little fun. It seems like far too many of you (on both ECNL and DA side) have forgotten that your 14-17 year old is a kid who might ENJOY being a normal kid playing soccer on their school team.
That is a nice choice to have next year. Play in a empty stadium or have half the ECNL practices with a half the team next spring.
Anonymous
04/26/2019 11:21
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet club after club after club is leaving DA only.to be replaced by NPL teams
And yet DA is morphing into ECNL to save the league.
They are not going to ECNL because they believe in ECNL, they are going because they will be able to charge ECNL prices for 40 kids per age group instead of 20 kids per age group.
They will water down their own brand by turning NPL into ECNL2. Change the name and double the price. Chhhaaaa ching!!!!
How long do you really think ECNL 2 will last when parents are paying higher prices, for further travel than NPL and still be on the B team?
My kid will never play ECNL 2. Unlike you, I dont care what path parents choose to take.
Why are you not in Colorado right now?
Colorado has internet, caveman. Is every ECNLer as clueless as you? That would explain quite a bit of this problem
Good thing to know the DA'ers are posting at 6 am on a ECNL thread while 10 states away during a college showcase. Shows the level of insanity if true.
What empty football stadium is your kid playing HS kickball in this week?
And your not at Colorado.
ANSON DORRANCE: U.S. Soccer has got some tremendous coaches who I respect immensely on women’s side. And I also have huge respect for people like [ECNL president] Christian Lavers and many others on the ECNL side who have been doing an incredible job across the country.
ANSON DORRANCE: I mean where did Mallory Pugh come from? She developed in an ECNL club [Real Colorado] that allowed her to play high school soccer and she’s a fantastic example of our ECNL coaches and the American player development environment at its best.
ANSON DORRANCE: I’m always afraid of an individual or a collection of individuals who really feel like they’ve solved the player development conundrum. I get nervous when all of a sudden we’ve discovered this is a certain way that we have to develop our players.
NEED HIS EMAIL?
Just curious, was there a girls DA when Mal Pugh was coming up through the youth system?
Yeah, I didn't think so.
So the argument is that because we developed players into national team roles prior to DA that it isn't needed? That ECNL is as good as because it was a de facto top league prior to DA?
Anonymous
04/26/2019 11:20
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet club after club after club is leaving DA only.to be replaced by NPL teams
And yet DA is morphing into ECNL to save the league.
They are not going to ECNL because they believe in ECNL, they are going because they will be able to charge ECNL prices for 40 kids per age group instead of 20 kids per age group.
They will water down their own brand by turning NPL into ECNL2. Change the name and double the price. Chhhaaaa ching!!!!
How long do you really think ECNL 2 will last when parents are paying higher prices, for further travel than NPL and still be on the B team?
My kid will never play ECNL 2. Unlike you, I dont care what path parents choose to take.
Why are you not in Colorado right now?
Colorado has internet, caveman. Is every ECNLer as clueless as you? That would explain quite a bit of this problem
Good thing to know the DA'ers are posting at 6 am on a ECNL thread while 10 states away during a college showcase. Shows the level of insanity if true.
Colorado is only 2 hours back, dimwit. The post you responded to was ~8am local time in Denver.
The insanity of ECNLers shows in the creation and maintenance of this thread.
Been posting since 8am EST.
Would you like Dorrance email so you can school him?
Anonymous
04/26/2019 11:17
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet club after club after club is leaving DA only.to be replaced by NPL teams
And yet DA is morphing into ECNL to save the league.
They are not going to ECNL because they believe in ECNL, they are going because they will be able to charge ECNL prices for 40 kids per age group instead of 20 kids per age group.
They will water down their own brand by turning NPL into ECNL2. Change the name and double the price. Chhhaaaa ching!!!!
How long do you really think ECNL 2 will last when parents are paying higher prices, for further travel than NPL and still be on the B team?
My kid will never play ECNL 2. Unlike you, I dont care what path parents choose to take.
Why are you not in Colorado right now?
Colorado has internet, caveman. Is every ECNLer as clueless as you? That would explain quite a bit of this problem
Good thing to know the DA'ers are posting at 6 am on a ECNL thread while 10 states away during a college showcase. Shows the level of insanity if true.
What empty football stadium is your kid playing HS kickball in this week?
Why do you care? My daughter is an ECNL player who will be a freshman next year. If she WANTS to represent her school, we will not stand in her way. It isn't about is the quality of the training or the level of competition (clearly HS soccer isn't that good), it is 100% about representing your school and having a little fun. It seems like far too many of you (on both ECNL and DA side) have forgotten that your 14-17 year old is a kid who might ENJOY being a normal kid playing soccer on their school team.
I havent forgotten that. I promise you! I've stated a 100 times...HS soccer will not MAKE nor BREAK your childs chance to play college soccer.
However, it doesnt change the fact that the poster is not in Colorado, the posters kid is not in Colorado, the posters kid is not of showcase age and the poster likes to regurgitate talking points that he/she learned from a PowerPoint presentation without any real life experience.
Anonymous
04/26/2019 11:15
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet club after club after club is leaving DA only.to be replaced by NPL teams
And yet DA is morphing into ECNL to save the league.
They are not going to ECNL because they believe in ECNL, they are going because they will be able to charge ECNL prices for 40 kids per age group instead of 20 kids per age group.
They will water down their own brand by turning NPL into ECNL2. Change the name and double the price. Chhhaaaa ching!!!!
How long do you really think ECNL 2 will last when parents are paying higher prices, for further travel than NPL and still be on the B team?
My kid will never play ECNL 2. Unlike you, I dont care what path parents choose to take.
Why are you not in Colorado right now?
Colorado has internet, caveman. Is every ECNLer as clueless as you? That would explain quite a bit of this problem
Good thing to know the DA'ers are posting at 6 am on a ECNL thread while 10 states away during a college showcase. Shows the level of insanity if true.
Colorado is only 2 hours back, dimwit. The post you responded to was ~8am local time in Denver.
The insanity of ECNLers shows in the creation and maintenance of this thread.
Anonymous
04/26/2019 11:11
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet club after club after club is leaving DA only.to be replaced by NPL teams
And yet DA is morphing into ECNL to save the league.
They are not going to ECNL because they believe in ECNL, they are going because they will be able to charge ECNL prices for 40 kids per age group instead of 20 kids per age group.
They will water down their own brand by turning NPL into ECNL2. Change the name and double the price. Chhhaaaa ching!!!!
How long do you really think ECNL 2 will last when parents are paying higher prices, for further travel than NPL and still be on the B team?
My kid will never play ECNL 2. Unlike you, I dont care what path parents choose to take.
Why are you not in Colorado right now?
Colorado has internet, caveman. Is every ECNLer as clueless as you? That would explain quite a bit of this problem
Good thing to know the DA'ers are posting at 6 am on a ECNL thread while 10 states away during a college showcase. Shows the level of insanity if true.
What empty football stadium is your kid playing HS kickball in this week?
And your not at Colorado.
ANSON DORRANCE: U.S. Soccer has got some tremendous coaches who I respect immensely on women’s side. And I also have huge respect for people like [ECNL president] Christian Lavers and many others on the ECNL side who have been doing an incredible job across the country.
ANSON DORRANCE: I mean where did Mallory Pugh come from? She developed in an ECNL club [Real Colorado] that allowed her to play high school soccer and she’s a fantastic example of our ECNL coaches and the American player development environment at its best.
ANSON DORRANCE: I’m always afraid of an individual or a collection of individuals who really feel like they’ve solved the player development conundrum. I get nervous when all of a sudden we’ve discovered this is a certain way that we have to develop our players.
NEED HIS EMAIL?
Anonymous
04/26/2019 11:09
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet club after club after club is leaving DA only.to be replaced by NPL teams
And yet DA is morphing into ECNL to save the league.
They are not going to ECNL because they believe in ECNL, they are going because they will be able to charge ECNL prices for 40 kids per age group instead of 20 kids per age group.
They will water down their own brand by turning NPL into ECNL2. Change the name and double the price. Chhhaaaa ching!!!!
How long do you really think ECNL 2 will last when parents are paying higher prices, for further travel than NPL and still be on the B team?
My kid will never play ECNL 2. Unlike you, I dont care what path parents choose to take.
Why are you not in Colorado right now?
Colorado has internet, caveman. Is every ECNLer as clueless as you? That would explain quite a bit of this problem
Good thing to know the DA'ers are posting at 6 am on a ECNL thread while 10 states away during a college showcase. Shows the level of insanity if true.
What empty football stadium is your kid playing HS kickball in this week?
Why do you care? My daughter is an ECNL player who will be a freshman next year. If she WANTS to represent her school, we will not stand in her way. It isn't about is the quality of the training or the level of competition (clearly HS soccer isn't that good), it is 100% about representing your school and having a little fun. It seems like far too many of you (on both ECNL and DA side) have forgotten that your 14-17 year old is a kid who might ENJOY being a normal kid playing soccer on their school team.