Anonymous
04/24/2019 09:51
Subject: IAC Lacrosse 2019 Season
How about NOT true. Sure there are some good LI teams. They have a much larger pool of players trying out for all of the teams. The top long Island teams are = at best with the top MD teams. Hawks, Crabs, ML on par with top LI teams and there are many LI teams that are not good just like any other area. It is not like these teams do not play each other every summer. LI dominates the World Series but no MD teams play in this event. Look at the Millon event or the NLF events to get a good comparison.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 08:50
Subject: IAC Lacrosse 2019 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:On my son's 5th grade club team, there are Mater Dei kids that are as much as 17 months older than other kids on the same team. It's crazy, but nothing can be done due to the grade based leagues/clubs in the area.
Rest assured, it generally doesn't work out in the long run as the older kids are good right now cause they are oner/,ore mature. In time, that evens out, and cream rises to the top no matter age.
Research shows it does hurt youth participation and growth of the sport as kids drop out early as they are tired of getting beaten on by older kids.
Also, it's not like this in Long Island and other hot-beds. Only DMV and the wacky parents down here.
Actually it doesn't work out until the young men go onto college and if kids are leaving due to unfair team setups than it doesn't work out over time. I'm not attacking you but you gotta be stronger and try not to justify your participation in the process. The best high school teams in the area in almost any sport have a large number of holdbacks/reclass or delayed entry students. There's no denying it if you look at most sport's true rankings not done by the Washington Post. The Post tries to be "fair" by representing both publics and privates in order to try and sustain readership. (BTW - it's not working JB)
If the BLC 2025 team has kids on the roster 17 months younger, this means there are kids with 2007 birthdays competing against kids with 2005 birthdays. Because Mater Dei families move all their kids in packs from sport to sport, it creates tough conditions for other BLC players who don't go to school there or who are 17 months younger. Those parents should immediately demand for those kids to move to the B team to get more time or they should seek a different club to play for.
I will disagree about only the DMV being wacky as class based lacrosse is just as much the norm across the country. LI teams go by age-based and they are pretty much the last geographic region holding onto that designation.
BLC Blue 2025 has a lot of huge kids for a 6th grade team so it's appropriate they play in the Hoco's elite division which is known for fielding teams w/ overaged kids. It all evens out eventually in high school where freshman play against seniors but it does stack the deck against on age kids who don't get the coaching, practice and game time they could competing against kids 18 mo older w.in their own club. And Bethesda parents want to win, all the time. I have heard that LI teams thrive against grade-based teams w/ kids older much older than them because LI plays w. skill in moving the ball vs athletic size, speed and other age-based advantages.
True and true...
Anonymous
04/24/2019 08:46
Subject: IAC Lacrosse 2019 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:On my son's 5th grade club team, there are Mater Dei kids that are as much as 17 months older than other kids on the same team. It's crazy, but nothing can be done due to the grade based leagues/clubs in the area.
Rest assured, it generally doesn't work out in the long run as the older kids are good right now cause they are oner/,ore mature. In time, that evens out, and cream rises to the top no matter age.
Research shows it does hurt youth participation and growth of the sport as kids drop out early as they are tired of getting beaten on by older kids.
Also, it's not like this in Long Island and other hot-beds. Only DMV and the wacky parents down here.
Actually it doesn't work out until the young men go onto college and if kids are leaving due to unfair team setups than it doesn't work out over time. I'm not attacking you but you gotta be stronger and try not to justify your participation in the process. The best high school teams in the area in almost any sport have a large number of holdbacks/reclass or delayed entry students. There's no denying it if you look at most sport's true rankings not done by the Washington Post. The Post tries to be "fair" by representing both publics and privates in order to try and sustain readership. (BTW - it's not working JB)
If the BLC 2025 team has kids on the roster 17 months younger, this means there are kids with 2007 birthdays competing against kids with 2005 birthdays. Because Mater Dei families move all their kids in packs from sport to sport, it creates tough conditions for other BLC players who don't go to school there or who are 17 months younger. Those parents should immediately demand for those kids to move to the B team to get more time or they should seek a different club to play for.
I will disagree about only the DMV being wacky as class based lacrosse is just as much the norm across the country. LI teams go by age-based and they are pretty much the last geographic region holding onto that designation.
BLC Blue 2025 has a lot of huge kids for a 6th grade team so it's appropriate they play in the Hoco's elite division which is known for fielding teams w/ overaged kids. It all evens out eventually in high school where freshman play against seniors but it does stack the deck against on age kids who don't get the coaching, practice and game time they could competing against kids 18 mo older w.in their own club. And Bethesda parents want to win, all the time. I have heard that LI teams thrive against grade-based teams w/ kids older much older than them because LI plays w. skill in moving the ball vs athletic size, speed and other age-based advantages.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 08:05
Subject: IAC Lacrosse 2019 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if I'm a September born in 2006, can I compete on a 2025 club team and league in LI? (I think I got my years right)
I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, as long as the kid is in the 2025 grade at school. The teams are based on graduation year.
Yes. Not sure I see the controversy. Some kids born in the later portion of the year are not ready for kindergarten at the same time as kids born in the early part of the same year for a variety of reasons. Carries forward if grade, rather than age is the qualifying factor. We "redshirted" our september kid for that reason. I was a November kid who was pushed forward in the old days before parents had much choice in the matter. If it were my choice seeing the positive impact it has had on my kid, I’d have rather been held back too.
I would agree if these decisions about holding back a child were done as they start their education, but I think that is far more the outlier than the norm. It has been my experience that these decisions are done often when the child is well into his elementary and even middle school years; often right before they make the jump either to middle school or High School. Lastly, in my opinion, there is a big difference between holding back a summer bday vs holding back kids that are literally born the previous Nov. That is egregious.
Having listened to parents justify the reason why, while standing on the sideline of a 6th grade lacrosse game, quite frankly is pretty sad. Further, for the vast majority of these kids in southern moco attend or transfer one particular school, shows me that is where parents go when they want this route for their child.
As mentioned by previous posters, it all tends to even out and possibly even stunt progress as the older kids tend to flatten out while the younger kids come continue to mature, so those of us with kids on age, stay positive with your kid, keep the, interested and loving improvement, and see how it plays out at the other end.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 06:49
Subject: Re:IAC Lacrosse 2019 Season
I think that there is one poster who has some maturity issues of his own. Get over it.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 05:25
Subject: Re:IAC Lacrosse 2019 Season
Anonymous wrote:
All three 16 year old play for Madlax and will attend GP
really 16-year-old 8th graders?
I'm not sure they are attending Prep so will defer unless the statement above is a troll against Prep but they do play for ML. There are also 3 others in the division playing on different teams. Yes, it's true and was confirmed by HoCo's league manager.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 05:20
Subject: IAC Lacrosse 2019 Season
Anonymous wrote:Look at the ages of those sophs at Prep—they are at least 17 years old!
Where can I find the ages of sophs at Prep? Are they really published somewhere?
Anonymous
04/24/2019 01:37
Subject: IAC Lacrosse 2019 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some finals today
SSSTAS 15, DeMatha 9
Prep 10, St John's 6
Landon 15, Gibbons 10
Episcopal 15, Paul VI 12
IAC 3, WCAC 0
See if the weakest team in the IAC, St Albans, can beat The Heights tomorrow.
Excuse me.... Gonzaga beat both Landon and Prep.... and bullis. I think your score is a bit wrong.
Yes, but not today.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 01:35
Subject: IAC Lacrosse 2019 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if I'm a September born in 2006, can I compete on a 2025 club team and league in LI? (I think I got my years right)
I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, as long as the kid is in the 2025 grade at school. The teams are based on graduation year.
Yes. Not sure I see the controversy. Some kids born in the later portion of the year are not ready for kindergarten at the same time as kids born in the early part of the same year for a variety of reasons. Carries forward if grade, rather than age is the qualifying factor. We "redshirted" our september kid for that reason. I was a November kid who was pushed forward in the old days before parents had much choice in the matter. If it were my choice seeing the positive impact it has had on my kid, I’d have rather been held back too.
Anonymous
04/23/2019 23:34
Subject: IAC Lacrosse 2019 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some finals today
SSSTAS 15, DeMatha 9
Prep 10, St John's 6
Landon 15, Gibbons 10
Episcopal 15, Paul VI 12
IAC 3, WCAC 0
See if the weakest team in the IAC, St Albans, can beat The Heights tomorrow.
Excuse me.... Gonzaga beat both Landon and Prep.... and bullis. I think your score is a bit wrong.
Prep '97 here. The scores above are correct as best I can tell. Gonzaga beat the top 3 IAC teams this year by a combined total of 4 points. IIRC 2 of those games went to OT. Still 3 wins are 3 wins. Not taking anything away from Purple lax. They are legit now.
Still, what does that have to do with the scores above?
Anonymous
04/23/2019 23:01
Subject: Re:IAC Lacrosse 2019 Season
not many GP lax alums have had recent success in the college ranks at the D1 level
Most of the 16-year-old freshman peak by the end of their sophomore year when others start to hit their grown spurt.
Most of the 16-year-old freshman peak by the end of their sophomore year when others start to hit their grown spurt.
Anonymous
04/23/2019 22:14
Subject: IAC Lacrosse 2019 Season
Anonymous wrote:Look at the ages of those sophs at Prep—they are at least 17 years old!
Yep. The pipeline of Mater Dei to Prep has been re-built as of this year with over 30 kids coming from MD. How many of those are turning 15 this year? 80-90%?? You have Freshman driving before the school year is out from this Spring. Guess it’s the only way they feel like their kids can compete. Sadly, kids aren’t being done any favors by this parental action. And quite frankly, for those of us who are not in that community, we just shake our heads and laugh at these parents who walk around like nobody knows the real deal.
Anonymous
04/23/2019 22:10
Subject: Re:IAC Lacrosse 2019 Season
I think we can all agree, Gonzaga has a very strong program and if they were to play in the IAC, they would be in the top half of the league most Springs.
I've said this for years but I would love for this area to have a private school championship.
Take the winner of the IAC tournament and pitch them against the champion from the WCAC playoffs. Both leagues should extend the season by one extra week and play the game down at Catholic U or Georgetown.
I was at the Bullis - Gonzaga game earlier this Spring, and that game could have easily gone the other way in Bullis favor.
PS: Saint Albans should blast the Heights tomorrow too.
I've said this for years but I would love for this area to have a private school championship.
Take the winner of the IAC tournament and pitch them against the champion from the WCAC playoffs. Both leagues should extend the season by one extra week and play the game down at Catholic U or Georgetown.
I was at the Bullis - Gonzaga game earlier this Spring, and that game could have easily gone the other way in Bullis favor.
PS: Saint Albans should blast the Heights tomorrow too.
Anonymous
04/23/2019 21:57
Subject: IAC Lacrosse 2019 Season
Anonymous wrote:Some finals today
SSSTAS 15, DeMatha 9
Prep 10, St John's 6
Landon 15, Gibbons 10
Episcopal 15, Paul VI 12
IAC 3, WCAC 0
See if the weakest team in the IAC, St Albans, can beat The Heights tomorrow.
Excuse me.... Gonzaga beat both Landon and Prep.... and bullis. I think your score is a bit wrong.
Anonymous
04/23/2019 21:11
Subject: IAC Lacrosse 2019 Season
Look at the ages of those sophs at Prep—they are at least 17 years old!