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Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

Maybe you have a point, but that's not the entirety of it. A man can go on TRT and maintain the muscle mass and physique they had as a 25 year old. A woman who's gone through a couple of pregnancies and menopause is just never going to get their body back. She can starve, cardio, and ozempic the hell out of herself until shes skinny but those nice curves that scream reproductive health to the man's brain are gone.

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Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

No, it’s biology being reflected in the culture. It has ALWAYS been thus.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

No, it’s biology being reflected in the culture. It has ALWAYS been thus.

Anonymous wrote:51 year old woman here who gets hit on pretty regularly by 30-35 year old guys and gals. I don’t look like a model at all (162 lbs, 5’5”) but I am fit, take care of my skin, laugh a lot and highlight my hair. People usually think I’m in my mid-30s.

To me, it’s all about the energy someone exudes. You can be attractive at 25 or 105 if you have a laid back, positive, kind energy. At this stage in my life, women in their 40s/50s far more interesting to me because they have experienced life, globally are progressing humankind forward and caring for communities. Most guys in their 50+ I have encountered/observed are whiny, depressed and narcissistic. Doesn’t matter how many WODs and cold plunge/infrareds you do - if you are only focused on bio hacking yourself, it’s totally unattractive.

BTW: I do think Tim Walz and Joe Biden are attractive because they exude kind and compassionate energy (without the creepy yoga dude vibe).

Take care and be well all!

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Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

This is so delusional it’s sad. People keep mentioning George Clooney and Brad Pitt. But have you seen pictures of them lately? Brad Pitt has had so much work done. It’s insane. He looks like a washed up Vegas act.

Go look at recent photos from this weekend of George Clooney and Amal. Then scroll through the comments. Comment after comment of oh my gosh George Clooney has gotten so old. What a shame he was so good looking he’s gotten so old.

These men have insane genetics that 99.9% of men don’t have, and all the money in the world to do whatever they can to maintain their looks. Granted they are 60, but the average 50 year-old looks like an average 50 year old man and the average 50 year old is not getting women in their 20s or even their early to mid 30s. Most men in their 50s are with… Women in their 50s! Or possibly 40s. Just look at the data. Don’t take my word for it. Or you could step out into the real world and look around. Most people are dating people around their age.

Men do not have some sort of secret anti-aging power: if they did this poor 45 year old tech billionaire wouldn’t be spending billions measuring his nighttime erections. And trying to reverse it to where he’s 18 again: https://fortune.com/well/2023/01/26/bryan-johnson-extreme-anti-aging/

Uh the PP was actually defending older women. He was saying that part of the reasons sometimes men "may" age better could have to do with testosterone.

A 55 years old man can just go the gym have a descent diet and be able to keep a healthy weight. For a similar woman it's different. It's much harder for example for women to keep the weight off just by dieting and going to the gym and it's not her fault, she has her biology making it harder.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

This is so delusional it’s sad. People keep mentioning George Clooney and Brad Pitt. But have you seen pictures of them lately? Brad Pitt has had so much work done. It’s insane. He looks like a washed up Vegas act.

Go look at recent photos from this weekend of George Clooney and Amal. Then scroll through the comments. Comment after comment of oh my gosh George Clooney has gotten so old. What a shame he was so good looking he’s gotten so old.

These men have insane genetics that 99.9% of men don’t have, and all the money in the world to do whatever they can to maintain their looks. Granted they are 60, but the average 50 year-old looks like an average 50 year old man and the average 50 year old is not getting women in their 20s or even their early to mid 30s. Most men in their 50s are with… Women in their 50s! Or possibly 40s. Just look at the data. Don’t take my word for it. Or you could step out into the real world and look around. Most people are dating people around their age.

Men do not have some sort of secret anti-aging power: if they did this poor 45 year old tech billionaire wouldn’t be spending billions measuring his nighttime erections. And trying to reverse it to where he’s 18 again: https://fortune.com/well/2023/01/26/bryan-johnson-extreme-anti-aging/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.