Anonymous
Post 10/26/2016 09:20     Subject: Re:APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?
Anonymous wrote:These concerns you all have over the level of poverty at Wakefield is all bunk. It's too late for those at-risk students by high school. If you force more affluent families to Wakefield, there will effectively be two high schools at Wakefield. The less affluent students won't be rubbing elbows with the more affluent students in the classroom. That's where the supposed benefits would come from according to previous social experiments.

However, I don't buy the benefits of the social experiment that you all claim is vital to the educational experience. Diversity should be dead last for these boundary considerations. if you value diversity, go live in it! And stop trying to force this on everyone else's family. Don't feel guilty if you picked the western end of Columbia pike to head to Wakefield in the boundary tool like I did. I didn't when I voted for that solution.

I'm in a WL district In north Arlington and fortunately I'm not affected by this boundary refinement. I hope my friends in north Arlington won't be affected by this boundary refinement nonsense. And I hope all you big talkers will send your children to the very schools that you're insisting we should dutifully send our children. Sorry, not interested.


What on earth are you babbling about? W-L is the classic example of two schools within a school, with about 35% of the students in poverty. The FARMS rate at Wakefield is not that much higher, maybe another 10%.

W-L parents are the absolute worst.

Anonymous
Post 10/26/2016 09:20     Subject: APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?
On an anonymous board, I'm not sure how we're supposed to tell, but I'm a South Arlington parent and my kids will be going to Wakefield barring something unexpected (like the school board exacerbating the existing concentrated low-income rates). I have seen many posts earlier in this thread that aren't mine and appear to be other S. Arl. posters. I will only speak for myself, but I value all manner of diversity and am actually acting on that value by living where I live. What I am fighting for is to continue to be able to do that, without having my current diversity turn into outright socioeconomic segregation.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2016 08:40     Subject: Re:APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?
Anonymous wrote:The real problem is that there are six elementary schools over 50% and six elementary schools under 5%.


^^ That is de facto segregation.


If your kids are at one of the six low-FARMS schools, have you applied to transfer them to one of the bottom six?
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2016 08:39     Subject: Re:APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Don't assume PP is a troll. It is an interesting point. For everyone on here calling for the importance of diversity and the benefit to the disadvantaged kids at Wakefield, have you already submitting the transfer request to have your child attend Wakefield even though you are zoned for Yorktown or W-L? There is capacity, so your transfer request would be approved. It's very easy to be a liberal in far north Arlington and talk about the importance of diversity, but very hypocritical to not then live it when the opportunity exists.


Arlington county as a whole is about 30% economically disadvantaged, and so is W-L.

Wakefield is about 46%.
Yorktown is about 14%.

Can you see where the problem is?


The real problem is that there are six elementary schools over 50% and six elementary schools under 5%.


^^ That is de facto segregation.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2016 08:38     Subject: Re:APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Don't assume PP is a troll. It is an interesting point. For everyone on here calling for the importance of diversity and the benefit to the disadvantaged kids at Wakefield, have you already submitting the transfer request to have your child attend Wakefield even though you are zoned for Yorktown or W-L? There is capacity, so your transfer request would be approved. It's very easy to be a liberal in far north Arlington and talk about the importance of diversity, but very hypocritical to not then live it when the opportunity exists.


Arlington county as a whole is about 30% economically disadvantaged, and so is W-L.

Wakefield is about 46%.
Yorktown is about 14%.

Can you see where the problem is?


The real problem is that there are six elementary schools over 50% and six elementary schools under 5%.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2016 08:38     Subject: Re:APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Don't assume PP is a troll. It is an interesting point. For everyone on here calling for the importance of diversity and the benefit to the disadvantaged kids at Wakefield, have you already submitting the transfer request to have your child attend Wakefield even though you are zoned for Yorktown or W-L? There is capacity, so your transfer request would be approved. It's very easy to be a liberal in far north Arlington and talk about the importance of diversity, but very hypocritical to not then live it when the opportunity exists.


Arlington county as a whole is about 30% economically disadvantaged, and so is W-L.

Wakefield is about 46%.
Yorktown is about 14%.

Can you see where the problem is?


Totally see it, got it, agree with you. My point, that I pulled out of the PP's post is that considering the number of people on this site saying don't put the western Pike units down at Wakefield, balancing enrollment diversity-wise is important, I'm assuming all those families are lining up to send their kids to Wakefield to help provide some balance there. Otherwise, all the commentary is classic NIMBY - "I want your kids to go there, but not mine" to solve this problem.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2016 08:31     Subject: Re:APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Don't assume PP is a troll. It is an interesting point. For everyone on here calling for the importance of diversity and the benefit to the disadvantaged kids at Wakefield, have you already submitting the transfer request to have your child attend Wakefield even though you are zoned for Yorktown or W-L? There is capacity, so your transfer request would be approved. It's very easy to be a liberal in far north Arlington and talk about the importance of diversity, but very hypocritical to not then live it when the opportunity exists.


Arlington county as a whole is about 30% economically disadvantaged, and so is W-L.

Wakefield is about 46%.
Yorktown is about 14%.

Can you see where the problem is?
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2016 08:22     Subject: APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?
Some of us would like to live it at less than 49% poverty. That's not hypocritical. Except for a few S. Arlington apologists on here, no one legitimately thinks the current balance of almost 50% poverty at Wakefield is a good thing.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2016 08:18     Subject: Re:APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These concerns you all have over the level of poverty at Wakefield is all bunk. It's too late for those at-risk students by high school. If you force more affluent families to Wakefield, there will effectively be two high schools at Wakefield. The less affluent students won't be rubbing elbows with the more affluent students in the classroom. That's where the supposed benefits would come from according to previous social experiments.

However, I don't buy the benefits of the social experiment that you all claim is vital to the educational experience. Diversity should be dead last for these boundary considerations. if you value diversity, go live in it! And stop trying to force this on everyone else's family. Don't feel guilty if you picked the western end of Columbia pike to head to Wakefield in the boundary tool like I did. I didn't when I voted for that solution.

I'm in a WL district In north Arlington and fortunately I'm not affected by this boundary refinement. I hope my friends in north Arlington won't be affected by this boundary refinement nonsense. And I hope all you big talkers will send your children to the very schools that you're insisting we should dutifully send our children. Sorry, not interested.


GTFO of here you troll.


Don't assume PP is a troll. It is an interesting point. For everyone on here calling for the importance of diversity and the benefit to the disadvantaged kids at Wakefield, have you already submitting the transfer request to have your child attend Wakefield even though you are zoned for Yorktown or W-L? There is capacity, so your transfer request would be approved. It's very easy to be a liberal in far north Arlington and talk about the importance of diversity, but very hypocritical to not then live it when the opportunity exists.
Anonymous
Post 10/25/2016 08:02     Subject: Re:APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?
Funny how you think that's an insult. Sadly you think Clinton is a viable option. Oh well, 4 years of nothing.
Anonymous
Post 10/25/2016 07:13     Subject: Re:APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?
Anonymous wrote:
However, I don't buy the benefits of the social experiment that you all claim is vital to the educational experience.


Psst -- someone's egging your Trump/Pence sign. Go try to catch them!
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2016 23:47     Subject: Re:APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is this like a video game or something?



Yes, and the winners get increased property values and access to better public schools.


The school board is passing the popcorn watching this.
Thank goodness they decided who could be "in play" and set just the right restricting parameters to only allow certain outcomes...
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2016 23:14     Subject: Re:APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?
Anonymous wrote:These concerns you all have over the level of poverty at Wakefield is all bunk. It's too late for those at-risk students by high school. If you force more affluent families to Wakefield, there will effectively be two high schools at Wakefield. The less affluent students won't be rubbing elbows with the more affluent students in the classroom. That's where the supposed benefits would come from according to previous social experiments.

However, I don't buy the benefits of the social experiment that you all claim is vital to the educational experience. Diversity should be dead last for these boundary considerations. if you value diversity, go live in it! And stop trying to force this on everyone else's family. Don't feel guilty if you picked the western end of Columbia pike to head to Wakefield in the boundary tool like I did. I didn't when I voted for that solution.

I'm in a WL district In north Arlington and fortunately I'm not affected by this boundary refinement. I hope my friends in north Arlington won't be affected by this boundary refinement nonsense. And I hope all you big talkers will send your children to the very schools that you're insisting we should dutifully send our children. Sorry, not interested.


GTFO of here you troll.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2016 22:28     Subject: Re:APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?
These concerns you all have over the level of poverty at Wakefield is all bunk. It's too late for those at-risk students by high school. If you force more affluent families to Wakefield, there will effectively be two high schools at Wakefield. The less affluent students won't be rubbing elbows with the more affluent students in the classroom. That's where the supposed benefits would come from according to previous social experiments.

However, I don't buy the benefits of the social experiment that you all claim is vital to the educational experience. Diversity should be dead last for these boundary considerations. if you value diversity, go live in it! And stop trying to force this on everyone else's family. Don't feel guilty if you picked the western end of Columbia pike to head to Wakefield in the boundary tool like I did. I didn't when I voted for that solution.

I'm in a WL district In north Arlington and fortunately I'm not affected by this boundary refinement. I hope my friends in north Arlington won't be affected by this boundary refinement nonsense. And I hope all you big talkers will send your children to the very schools that you're insisting we should dutifully send our children. Sorry, not interested.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2016 13:19     Subject: APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

If you think there's another way to address the whack-a-mole approach that the SB and CB take, do tell. Letters and speaking at meetings doesn't seem to do anything except entrench the power of the privileged (of which I am one).


Didn't I read somewhere that if this bond initiative doesn't go through, the next opportunity for a bond vote is 2 or more years away?


You may have read that, but it's not true. A bond vote has to be approved a certain number of months before an election, but there's an election every year.