Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem or was

Too much immigration. Yes immigration is necessary but it needs to be controlled

Too much off shoring with too few incentives to train American workers and keep jobs here

Inheritance tax needs to be more robust and close many loopholes for the uber wealthy.

More Progressive tax rates

That is a GOP thing. They created it, they own the businesses and do most of the hiring and yet you blame the Dems.

Pp. Where did I say I blame the Dem?

It’s both parties. You think Dem don’t run businesses? Huh?

I would vote for a Dem over the current state of republicans, but it is naive to think they aren’t part of the problem.

GOP created and negotiated NAFTA
most of the companies that sent manufacturing oversees are owned by republicans
most of the companies that do the hiring domestically are owned by republicans


But Both Sides!!!!1

You should be banned for peddling in inaccuracies

NAFTA had to have bi partisan support to be passed. It was signed by Clinton.

I’m not just talking about manufacturing. Let’s move into some modern day realities. Technology. Major co are owned by stockholders, not Rep or Dem. It does not matter what your personal beliefs are, if you are running one of these companies, you will make pro business decisions to increase stockholder value. That’s the reality

it was signed by Clinton, but it started during the Reagan administration. Clinton merely signed the document after it had all been designed and negotiated.

Most stock holders are republicans. Yes, there are democrats who own stocks, but let's be reality here about which party controls most of the businesses and most of the money.

You are extremely naive.
The truth is that the super wealthy aren’t loyal republicans or democrats. They don’t have enough votes to affect things one way or another so they buy influence of whoever is in power. They will support whichever candidate they think will make them richer. They don’t care about the issues that the masses care about. They are opportunists and will take advantage of whichever way the tide is turning.

And also, do you think it is only rich people who own stocks? Ever heard of a 401k? What do you think is in those?

+1

And, thanks to the rise of Super PACs in recent years, those super wealthy entities are able to somewhat mask the fact that there are mega-donors donating to both sides in a political race to cover their bases no matter who wins.

Disgusting

Anonymous wrote:What PP said.

the economy started to fail when Trump announced his tariffs and started to use them as a bribe scheme for personal gain...everything since has been a digression.

+1 and the tariffs actually caused manufacturing job loss rather than job increase. It was on the way up during Biden's administration.

What PP said.

the economy started to fail when Trump announced his tariffs and started to use them as a bribe scheme for personal gain...everything since has been a digression.

This thread is just chock full of GOP lies. Their propaganda machine has been impressive and effective. There are human beings that actually believe all these nonsense things they are saying, blaming Democrats, currently not in power, for all the insults to workers while the Trump administration does nothing to change visas, strips protections from workers, fired federal workers for no real reason other than to take away as much oversight as possible to so THEY can engage in massive fraud and corruption.

Some of you need a complete reset. You are lost. And so f in stupid. I can't anymore.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem or was

Too much immigration. Yes immigration is necessary but it needs to be controlled

Too much off shoring with too few incentives to train American workers and keep jobs here

Inheritance tax needs to be more robust and close many loopholes for the uber wealthy.

More Progressive tax rates

That is a GOP thing. They created it, they own the businesses and do most of the hiring and yet you blame the Dems.

Pp. Where did I say I blame the Dem?

It’s both parties. You think Dem don’t run businesses? Huh?

I would vote for a Dem over the current state of republicans, but it is naive to think they aren’t part of the problem.

GOP created and negotiated NAFTA
most of the companies that sent manufacturing oversees are owned by republicans
most of the companies that do the hiring domestically are owned by republicans


But Both Sides!!!!1

You should be banned for peddling in inaccuracies

NAFTA had to have bi partisan support to be passed. It was signed by Clinton.

I’m not just talking about manufacturing. Let’s move into some modern day realities. Technology. Major co are owned by stockholders, not Rep or Dem. It does not matter what your personal beliefs are, if you are running one of these companies, you will make pro business decisions to increase stockholder value. That’s the reality

it was signed by Clinton, but it started during the Reagan administration. Clinton merely signed the document after it had all been designed and negotiated.

Most stock holders are republicans. Yes, there are democrats who own stocks, but let's be reality here about which party controls most of the businesses and most of the money.

You are extremely naive.
The truth is that the super wealthy aren’t loyal republicans or democrats. They don’t have enough votes to affect things one way or another so they buy influence of whoever is in power. They will support whichever candidate they think will make them richer. They don’t care about the issues that the masses care about. They are opportunists and will take advantage of whichever way the tide is turning.

And also, do you think it is only rich people who own stocks? Ever heard of a 401k? What do you think is in those?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem or was

Too much immigration. Yes immigration is necessary but it needs to be controlled

Too much off shoring with too few incentives to train American workers and keep jobs here

Inheritance tax needs to be more robust and close many loopholes for the uber wealthy.

More Progressive tax rates

That is a GOP thing. They created it, they own the businesses and do most of the hiring and yet you blame the Dems.

Pp. Where did I say I blame the Dem?

It’s both parties. You think Dem don’t run businesses? Huh?

I would vote for a Dem over the current state of republicans, but it is naive to think they aren’t part of the problem.

The current conflict is between the 99% of regular Americans and the ultra wealthy political investors who have taken control of our political system. "Parties" are only a term used to distract and divide the American people. It's us vs the 1% and parties have nothing to do with it. Truth hurts.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem or was

Too much immigration. Yes immigration is necessary but it needs to be controlled

Too much off shoring with too few incentives to train American workers and keep jobs here

Inheritance tax needs to be more robust and close many loopholes for the uber wealthy.

More Progressive tax rates

That is a GOP thing. They created it, they own the businesses and do most of the hiring and yet you blame the Dems.

+1 Ellison, Musk... all cut jobs while applying thousands of H1s. They are Trump's financiers so you know that Trump will make sure that their H1s get approved.

As Trump said.. "he loves the H1s.. he uses it".

Every. Single. Major. American. Company offshores as much as their operations as they can, and relies on a much much much smaller set of workers on US soil, a not insubstantial number of whom are H1b or vendors whose corporate structure they can hide behind to use even more non US workers.

Cheaper. Faster. Can hire and fire and scale up and down easily. Better for them.

Worse for US workers. Worse for our society.

This is soo simplified it's laughable.

There's a tipping point for it to be sure, but it is not efficient for Americans to produce all our goods. Supreme waste of time and money.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem or was

Too much immigration. Yes immigration is necessary but it needs to be controlled

Too much off shoring with too few incentives to train American workers and keep jobs here

Inheritance tax needs to be more robust and close many loopholes for the uber wealthy.

More Progressive tax rates

That is a GOP thing. They created it, they own the businesses and do most of the hiring and yet you blame the Dems.

Pp. Where did I say I blame the Dem?

It’s both parties. You think Dem don’t run businesses? Huh?

I would vote for a Dem over the current state of republicans, but it is naive to think they aren’t part of the problem.

GOP created and negotiated NAFTA
most of the companies that sent manufacturing oversees are owned by republicans
most of the companies that do the hiring domestically are owned by republicans


But Both Sides!!!!1

You should be banned for peddling in inaccuracies

NAFTA had to have bi partisan support to be passed. It was signed by Clinton.

I’m not just talking about manufacturing. Let’s move into some modern day realities. Technology. Major co are owned by stockholders, not Rep or Dem. It does not matter what your personal beliefs are, if you are running one of these companies, you will make pro business decisions to increase stockholder value. That’s the reality

it was signed by Clinton, but it started during the Reagan administration. Clinton merely signed the document after it had all been designed and negotiated.

Most stock holders are republicans. Yes, there are democrats who own stocks, but let's be reality here about which party controls most of the businesses and most of the money.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem or was

Too much immigration. Yes immigration is necessary but it needs to be controlled

Too much off shoring with too few incentives to train American workers and keep jobs here

Inheritance tax needs to be more robust and close many loopholes for the uber wealthy.

More Progressive tax rates

That is a GOP thing. They created it, they own the businesses and do most of the hiring and yet you blame the Dems.

Pp. Where did I say I blame the Dem?

It’s both parties. You think Dem don’t run businesses? Huh?

I would vote for a Dem over the current state of republicans, but it is naive to think they aren’t part of the problem.

GOP created and negotiated NAFTA
most of the companies that sent manufacturing oversees are owned by republicans
most of the companies that do the hiring domestically are owned by republicans


But Both Sides!!!!1

You should be banned for peddling in inaccuracies

NAFTA had to have bi partisan support to be passed. It was signed by Clinton.

I’m not just talking about manufacturing. Let’s move into some modern day realities. Technology. Major co are owned by stockholders, not Rep or Dem. It does not matter what your personal beliefs are, if you are running one of these companies, you will make pro business decisions to increase stockholder value. That’s the reality

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem or was

Too much immigration. Yes immigration is necessary but it needs to be controlled

Too much off shoring with too few incentives to train American workers and keep jobs here

Inheritance tax needs to be more robust and close many loopholes for the uber wealthy.

More Progressive tax rates

That is a GOP thing. They created it, they own the businesses and do most of the hiring and yet you blame the Dems.

Pp. Where did I say I blame the Dem?

It’s both parties. You think Dem don’t run businesses? Huh?

I would vote for a Dem over the current state of republicans, but it is naive to think they aren’t part of the problem.

GOP created and negotiated NAFTA
most of the companies that sent manufacturing oversees are owned by republicans
most of the companies that do the hiring domestically are owned by republicans


But Both Sides!!!!1

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem or was

Too much immigration. Yes immigration is necessary but it needs to be controlled

Too much off shoring with too few incentives to train American workers and keep jobs here

Inheritance tax needs to be more robust and close many loopholes for the uber wealthy.

More Progressive tax rates

That is a GOP thing. They created it, they own the businesses and do most of the hiring and yet you blame the Dems.

+1 Ellison, Musk... all cut jobs while applying thousands of H1s. They are Trump's financiers so you know that Trump will make sure that their H1s get approved.

As Trump said.. "he loves the H1s.. he uses it".

Every. Single. Major. American. Company offshores as much as their operations as they can, and relies on a much much much smaller set of workers on US soil, a not insubstantial number of whom are H1b or vendors whose corporate structure they can hide behind to use even more non US workers.

Cheaper. Faster. Can hire and fire and scale up and down easily. Better for them.

Worse for US workers. Worse for our society.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem or was

Too much immigration. Yes immigration is necessary but it needs to be controlled

Too much off shoring with too few incentives to train American workers and keep jobs here

Inheritance tax needs to be more robust and close many loopholes for the uber wealthy.

More Progressive tax rates

I agree; too many immigrants. Let's utterly destroy the country so that no one wants to come here. That will help.

Way to miss the point

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem or was

Too much immigration. Yes immigration is necessary but it needs to be controlled

Too much off shoring with too few incentives to train American workers and keep jobs here

Inheritance tax needs to be more robust and close many loopholes for the uber wealthy.

More Progressive tax rates

That is a GOP thing. They created it, they own the businesses and do most of the hiring and yet you blame the Dems.

Pp. Where did I say I blame the Dem?

It’s both parties. You think Dem don’t run businesses? Huh?

I would vote for a Dem over the current state of republicans, but it is naive to think they aren’t part of the problem.

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem or was

Too much immigration. Yes immigration is necessary but it needs to be controlled

Too much off shoring with too few incentives to train American workers and keep jobs here

Inheritance tax needs to be more robust and close many loopholes for the uber wealthy.

More Progressive tax rates

I agree; too many immigrants. Let's utterly destroy the country so that no one wants to come here. That will help.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem or was

Too much immigration. Yes immigration is necessary but it needs to be controlled

Too much off shoring with too few incentives to train American workers and keep jobs here

Inheritance tax needs to be more robust and close many loopholes for the uber wealthy.

More Progressive tax rates

That is a GOP thing. They created it, they own the businesses and do most of the hiring and yet you blame the Dems.

+1 Ellison, Musk... all cut jobs while applying thousands of H1s. They are Trump's financiers so you know that Trump will make sure that their H1s get approved.

As Trump said.. "he loves the H1s.. he uses it".