Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[/b]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Franklin Farm's geography does not represent the whole of those situated inside Crossfield's borders.
Some Franklin Farm families far in the west are 10 min closer to KAA than Oakton. Some Franklin Farm families near west ox live within a few min difference between KAA and Oakton. It's a very very wide neighborhood
Other communities outside live only a couple min difference between KAA and Oakton.
A couple minutes ride difference is not conderation factor for the crossfield families that do not want to move. It's a total wash given where your kid is on the bus route. My kids friends ride the bus to their current school and have pickup times up to 40 minutes apart!
But for Franklin farm families that have been so outspoken it appears to be a matter of great concern. So the commute might make sense for the part off Franklin really close to KAA, if they're driving their kids to school, but most people use the bus to begin with.
Franklin farm's location can not be used as evaluation factor for ride difference and the ride difference is not significant at all due to the nature of bus routes since they meander all over the place.
You are either full of it or do not understand which homes are actually Franklin Farm. The distance to Oakton HS from the part of Franklin Farm closest to West Ox is 9-10 miles. Distance to KAA from there? 3-3.2 miles. You are also forgetting a little thing called rush hour traffic. Which commute is impacted more by that, do you think? And a bus doesn't have to "meander all over the place" when it's picking up a large number of kids from a small number of stops in one neighborhood and heading straight to the school.
Everyone's experience is different. If you are in a lower density neighborhood your kids bus doesn't fill up in one stop. It goes all over the place until full.
I just put in Google maps how long it takes from crossfield to oakton and to kaa. For those situated near crossfield itself it's a very different story for those in Franklin farm.
Oakton 15 min. Kaa 15 min. Try it yourself. You may understand that your experience is vastly different than others.
Again - [b]the vast majority of kids who go to Crossfield live nowhere near Crossfield. There are elementary schools that are closer to our homes than Crossfield, too. I live closer to Oak Hill, Navy, and Fox Mill than I do to Crossfield.
People just blatantly lying now... I put it into google maps. It's 13 or 14 minutes from Crossfield to KAA depending on the route. 17-18 minutes to Oakton. Also, the route from Crossfield to KAA is all main roads where the route to Oakton is all back roads. Picking kids up spread out on back roads will take MUCH longer, and forget it if there's any inclement weather. Also, I live about as close as you can to Oakton and go to Crossfield. It still says it'll take 16-19 minutes to Oakton and 9-13 to KAA. This however wouldn't affect me because I'd plan to drive my kids to Oakton. I also prefer to stay at Oakton than go to a new and unknown school starting out as a complete cluster fnck. I can say, yes it would make more sense for us to go to the Western High School if it was only based on distance. I can also say I'd be pretty pissed because we moved from a house near the new Western High School 6 years ago in order to go to a better high school - Oakton.
Most of Crossfield lives in Franklin Farm which is MUCH closer to KAA. Did you miss the first sentence where it says "the vast majority of kids who go to Crossfield live nowhere near Crossfield?"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fox Mill ES to SLHS, 3.6 mil
Fox Mill ES to KAA, 3.4 mil
Fox Mill ES is right in the middle of Fox Mill Boundary
0.2 mil difference
Is that how county decide rezoning?
Fox Mill ES is right in the middle of Fox Mill Boundary.
Average Fox Mill community live within same distance to SLHS and KAA.
You do realize a large chunk of the Fox Mill boundary is on the other side of the parkway. I just entered both schools into Google maps. It's 1.9 miles to Western and 4.7 miles to South Lakes. Both are very reasonable distances, but they are not the same. And one route has us going through multiple lights and a morning backup to get to the Toll Road or RTC while the other does not.
My neighborhood is actually slightly closer to Floris than Fox Mill (we vote at Floris, for example), so you can't use the ES as your basis for distance.
I'm one of the Fox Mill families that doesn't really care which school we end up at, but one is factually not the same distance or commute time (4 minutes vs 15 minutes) as the other.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now Fox Mill move to KAA in 3 of 4 scenarios, every FCPS residents should be concerned ans shocked.
Lol why?
Options C and D keep Discovery Square at Westfield instead of KAA--which is less than 2 miles away. I do not see this happening.
I see Option A or B with slight adjustments.
Most logical is option A--with addition of ALL Floris students.
That’s fair.
But why should FCPS residents be concerned and shocked about Fox Mill going to new school?
I don't see them sending Fox Mill unless they send all of Floris.
I don't see Meren (who seems to oppose KAA) voting to empty South Lakes of the neighborhoods given to South Lakes in the South Lakes Boundary Study. That would be two schools (or one and a half) removed from South Lakes--which is not overcrowded.
Oakton--which is approaching capacity--is a very long way from Franklin Farm (where most Crossfield kids live.)
The Crossfield neighborhoods are a short distance from KAA.
It eliminates the very long bus transportation required for Crossfield to Oakton.
KAA is in Sully District.
Oakton is in Providence, I think.
South Lakes is in Hunter Mill.
Franklin Farm (Crossfield students) is in Sully.
Floris students are Sully/Hunter Mill
Sully District SB member: Seema Dixit
Hunter Mill District SB: Melanie Meren
Providence: Karl Frisch--who has expressed concern about bus trip and potential overcrowding at Oakton
I am not asking whether the board would move Fox Mill or not.
My question is why you said FCPS residents should be concerned and shocked about Fox Mill going to new school.
Someone (maybe you) also said Fox Mill people are toxic and she won’t want her kids to make friends with Fox Mill people.
Just very odd statements and I am curious.
I think the shocked and concerned comment referred to the fact that it would cost more to keep Crossfield at Oakton while moving Fox Mill to SLHS, due to the difference in distance. Fox Mill homes to SLHS is shorter than Crossfield homes to Oakton.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now Fox Mill move to KAA in 3 of 4 scenarios, every FCPS residents should be concerned ans shocked.
Lol why?
Options C and D keep Discovery Square at Westfield instead of KAA--which is less than 2 miles away. I do not see this happening.
I see Option A or B with slight adjustments.
Most logical is option A--with addition of ALL Floris students.
That’s fair.
But why should FCPS residents be concerned and shocked about Fox Mill going to new school?
I don't see them sending Fox Mill unless they send all of Floris.
I don't see Meren (who seems to oppose KAA) voting to empty South Lakes of the neighborhoods given to South Lakes in the South Lakes Boundary Study. That would be two schools (or one and a half) removed from South Lakes--which is not overcrowded.
Oakton--which is approaching capacity--is a very long way from Franklin Farm (where most Crossfield kids live.)
The Crossfield neighborhoods are a short distance from KAA.
It eliminates the very long bus transportation required for Crossfield to Oakton.
KAA is in Sully District.
Oakton is in Providence, I think.
South Lakes is in Hunter Mill.
Franklin Farm (Crossfield students) is in Sully.
Floris students are Sully/Hunter Mill
Sully District SB member: Seema Dixit
Hunter Mill District SB: Melanie Meren
Providence: Karl Frisch--who has expressed concern about bus trip and potential overcrowding at Oakton
I am not asking whether the board would move Fox Mill or not.
My question is why you said FCPS residents should be concerned and shocked about Fox Mill going to new school.
Someone (maybe you) also said Fox Mill people are toxic and she won’t want her kids to make friends with Fox Mill people.
Just very odd statements and I am curious.
I think the shocked and concerned comment referred to the fact that it would cost more to keep Crossfield at Oakton while moving Fox Mill to SLHS, due to the difference in distance. Fox Mill homes to SLHS is shorter than Crossfield homes to Oakton.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now Fox Mill move to KAA in 3 of 4 scenarios, every FCPS residents should be concerned ans shocked.
Lol why?
Options C and D keep Discovery Square at Westfield instead of KAA--which is less than 2 miles away. I do not see this happening.
I see Option A or B with slight adjustments.
Most logical is option A--with addition of ALL Floris students.
That’s fair.
But why should FCPS residents be concerned and shocked about Fox Mill going to new school?
I don't see them sending Fox Mill unless they send all of Floris.
I don't see Meren (who seems to oppose KAA) voting to empty South Lakes of the neighborhoods given to South Lakes in the South Lakes Boundary Study. That would be two schools (or one and a half) removed from South Lakes--which is not overcrowded.
Oakton--which is approaching capacity--is a very long way from Franklin Farm (where most Crossfield kids live.)
The Crossfield neighborhoods are a short distance from KAA.
It eliminates the very long bus transportation required for Crossfield to Oakton.
KAA is in Sully District.
Oakton is in Providence, I think.
South Lakes is in Hunter Mill.
Franklin Farm (Crossfield students) is in Sully.
Floris students are Sully/Hunter Mill
Sully District SB member: Seema Dixit
Hunter Mill District SB: Melanie Meren
Providence: Karl Frisch--who has expressed concern about bus trip and potential overcrowding at Oakton
I am not asking whether the board would move Fox Mill or not.
My question is why you said FCPS residents should be concerned and shocked about Fox Mill going to new school.
Someone (maybe you) also said Fox Mill people are toxic and she won’t want her kids to make friends with Fox Mill people.
Just very odd statements and I am curious.
Are you one of those people who think there is only one other person posting? I posted the post with the information. I was not the one who posted anything about Fox Mill people being toxic.
I have no problem with Fox Mill. I just think that Option A with all of Floris is the most logical solution.
I don't see it to be logical to keep Crossfield at Oakton. The bus trip is costing dollars to taxpayers and contributing to prevent needed changes to start times.
Sending Discovery Square to Westfield when they are so close to KAA and would be the only neighborhood this side of 50 would be terrible.
So, that leaves Fox Mill at South Lakes--where they are already going and half the neighborhood is equidistant.
It is not toxic to say that.
And, realistically, it is unlikely that Meren would approve it. In the past, the district SB reps have a lot of say over the students in their districts. That is a fact.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Franklin Farm's geography does not represent the whole of those situated inside Crossfield's borders.
Some Franklin Farm families far in the west are 10 min closer to KAA than Oakton. Some Franklin Farm families near west ox live within a few min difference between KAA and Oakton. It's a very very wide neighborhood
Other communities outside live only a couple min difference between KAA and Oakton.
A couple minutes ride difference is not conderation factor for the crossfield families that do not want to move. It's a total wash given where your kid is on the bus route. My kids friends ride the bus to their current school and have pickup times up to 40 minutes apart!
But for Franklin farm families that have been so outspoken it appears to be a matter of great concern. So the commute might make sense for the part off Franklin really close to KAA, if they're driving their kids to school, but most people use the bus to begin with.
Franklin farm's location can not be used as evaluation factor for ride difference and the ride difference is not significant at all due to the nature of bus routes since they meander all over the place.
You are either full of it or do not understand which homes are actually Franklin Farm. The distance to Oakton HS from the part of Franklin Farm closest to West Ox is 9-10 miles. Distance to KAA from there? 3-3.2 miles. You are also forgetting a little thing called rush hour traffic. Which commute is impacted more by that, do you think? And a bus doesn't have to "meander all over the place" when it's picking up a large number of kids from a small number of stops in one neighborhood and heading straight to the school.
Everyone's experience is different. If you are in a lower density neighborhood your kids bus doesn't fill up in one stop. It goes all over the place until full.
I just put in Google maps how long it takes from crossfield to oakton and to kaa. For those situated near crossfield itself it's a very different story for those in Franklin farm.
Oakton 15 min. Kaa 15 min. Try it yourself. You may understand that your experience is vastly different than others.
Again - the vast majority of kids who go to Crossfield live nowhere near Crossfield. There are elementary schools that are closer to our homes than Crossfield, too. I live closer to Oak Hill, Navy, and Fox Mill than I do to Crossfield.
People just blatantly lying now... I put it into google maps. It's 13 or 14 minutes from Crossfield to KAA depending on the route. 17-18 minutes to Oakton. Also, the route from Crossfield to KAA is all main roads where the route to Oakton is all back roads. Picking kids up spread out on back roads will take MUCH longer, and forget it if there's any inclement weather. Also, I live about as close as you can to Oakton and go to Crossfield. It still says it'll take 16-19 minutes to Oakton and 9-13 to KAA. This however wouldn't affect me because I'd plan to drive my kids to Oakton. I also prefer to stay at Oakton than go to a new and unknown school starting out as a complete cluster fnck. I can say, yes it would make more sense for us to go to the Western High School if it was only based on distance. I can also say I'd be pretty pissed because we moved from a house near the new Western High School 6 years ago in order to go to a better high school - Oakton.
Travel times on Google Maps in the middle of the day on a holiday is not an accurate reflection of the travel times on a school day particularly in the morning. But I suspect you know that and just don’t want to acknowledge that commuting to Oakton when five other schools are closer does not make sense.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now Fox Mill move to KAA in 3 of 4 scenarios, every FCPS residents should be concerned ans shocked.
Lol why?
Options C and D keep Discovery Square at Westfield instead of KAA--which is less than 2 miles away. I do not see this happening.
I see Option A or B with slight adjustments.
Most logical is option A--with addition of ALL Floris students.
That’s fair.
But why should FCPS residents be concerned and shocked about Fox Mill going to new school?
I don't see them sending Fox Mill unless they send all of Floris.
I don't see Meren (who seems to oppose KAA) voting to empty South Lakes of the neighborhoods given to South Lakes in the South Lakes Boundary Study. That would be two schools (or one and a half) removed from South Lakes--which is not overcrowded.
Oakton--which is approaching capacity--is a very long way from Franklin Farm (where most Crossfield kids live.)
The Crossfield neighborhoods are a short distance from KAA.
It eliminates the very long bus transportation required for Crossfield to Oakton.
KAA is in Sully District.
Oakton is in Providence, I think.
South Lakes is in Hunter Mill.
Franklin Farm (Crossfield students) is in Sully.
Floris students are Sully/Hunter Mill
Sully District SB member: Seema Dixit
Hunter Mill District SB: Melanie Meren
Providence: Karl Frisch--who has expressed concern about bus trip and potential overcrowding at Oakton
I am not asking whether the board would move Fox Mill or not.
My question is why you said FCPS residents should be concerned and shocked about Fox Mill going to new school.
Someone (maybe you) also said Fox Mill people are toxic and she won’t want her kids to make friends with Fox Mill people.
Just very odd statements and I am curious.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now Fox Mill move to KAA in 3 of 4 scenarios, every FCPS residents should be concerned ans shocked.
Lol why?
Options C and D keep Discovery Square at Westfield instead of KAA--which is less than 2 miles away. I do not see this happening.
I see Option A or B with slight adjustments.
Most logical is option A--with addition of ALL Floris students.
That’s fair.
But why should FCPS residents be concerned and shocked about Fox Mill going to new school?
I don't see them sending Fox Mill unless they send all of Floris.
I don't see Meren (who seems to oppose KAA) voting to empty South Lakes of the neighborhoods given to South Lakes in the South Lakes Boundary Study. That would be two schools (or one and a half) removed from South Lakes--which is not overcrowded.
Oakton--which is approaching capacity--is a very long way from Franklin Farm (where most Crossfield kids live.)
The Crossfield neighborhoods are a short distance from KAA.
It eliminates the very long bus transportation required for Crossfield to Oakton.
KAA is in Sully District.
Oakton is in Providence, I think.
South Lakes is in Hunter Mill.
Franklin Farm (Crossfield students) is in Sully.
Floris students are Sully/Hunter Mill
Sully District SB member: Seema Dixit
Hunter Mill District SB: Melanie Meren
Providence: Karl Frisch--who has expressed concern about bus trip and potential overcrowding at Oakton
I am not asking whether the board would move Fox Mill or not.
My question is why you said FCPS residents should be concerned and shocked about Fox Mill going to new school.
Someone (maybe you) also said Fox Mill people are toxic and she won’t want her kids to make friends with Fox Mill people.
Just very odd statements and I am curious.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Franklin Farm's geography does not represent the whole of those situated inside Crossfield's borders.
Some Franklin Farm families far in the west are 10 min closer to KAA than Oakton. Some Franklin Farm families near west ox live within a few min difference between KAA and Oakton. It's a very very wide neighborhood
Other communities outside live only a couple min difference between KAA and Oakton.
A couple minutes ride difference is not conderation factor for the crossfield families that do not want to move. It's a total wash given where your kid is on the bus route. My kids friends ride the bus to their current school and have pickup times up to 40 minutes apart!
But for Franklin farm families that have been so outspoken it appears to be a matter of great concern. So the commute might make sense for the part off Franklin really close to KAA, if they're driving their kids to school, but most people use the bus to begin with.
Franklin farm's location can not be used as evaluation factor for ride difference and the ride difference is not significant at all due to the nature of bus routes since they meander all over the place.
You are either full of it or do not understand which homes are actually Franklin Farm. The distance to Oakton HS from the part of Franklin Farm closest to West Ox is 9-10 miles. Distance to KAA from there? 3-3.2 miles. You are also forgetting a little thing called rush hour traffic. Which commute is impacted more by that, do you think? And a bus doesn't have to "meander all over the place" when it's picking up a large number of kids from a small number of stops in one neighborhood and heading straight to the school.
Everyone's experience is different. If you are in a lower density neighborhood your kids bus doesn't fill up in one stop. It goes all over the place until full.
I just put in Google maps how long it takes from crossfield to oakton and to kaa. For those situated near crossfield itself it's a very different story for those in Franklin farm.
Oakton 15 min. Kaa 15 min. Try it yourself. You may understand that your experience is vastly different than others.
Again - the vast majority of kids who go to Crossfield live nowhere near Crossfield. There are elementary schools that are closer to our homes than Crossfield, too. I live closer to Oak Hill, Navy, and Fox Mill than I do to Crossfield.
People just blatantly lying now... I put it into google maps. It's 13 or 14 minutes from Crossfield to KAA depending on the route. 17-18 minutes to Oakton. Also, the route from Crossfield to KAA is all main roads where the route to Oakton is all back roads. Picking kids up spread out on back roads will take MUCH longer, and forget it if there's any inclement weather. Also, I live about as close as you can to Oakton and go to Crossfield. It still says it'll take 16-19 minutes to Oakton and 9-13 to KAA. This however wouldn't affect me because I'd plan to drive my kids to Oakton. I also prefer to stay at Oakton than go to a new and unknown school starting out as a complete cluster fnck. I can say, yes it would make more sense for us to go to the Western High School if it was only based on distance. I can also say I'd be pretty pissed because we moved from a house near the new Western High School 6 years ago in order to go to a better high school - Oakton.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fox Mill ES to SLHS, 3.6 mil
Fox Mill ES to KAA, 3.4 mil
Fox Mill ES is right in the middle of Fox Mill Boundary
0.2 mil difference
Is that how county decide rezoning?
Fox Mill ES is right in the middle of Fox Mill Boundary.
Average Fox Mill community live within same distance to SLHS and KAA.
Anonymous wrote:I think the number of Floris kids that are at SLHS is around 160 so it should be easy to add them onto option A without pulling all of Fox Mill. Those neighborhoods are half the distance to KAA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now Fox Mill move to KAA in 3 of 4 scenarios, every FCPS residents should be concerned ans shocked.
Lol why?
Options C and D keep Discovery Square at Westfield instead of KAA--which is less than 2 miles away. I do not see this happening.
I see Option A or B with slight adjustments.
Most logical is option A--with addition of ALL Floris students.
That’s fair.
But why should FCPS residents be concerned and shocked about Fox Mill going to new school?
I don't see them sending Fox Mill unless they send all of Floris.
I don't see Meren (who seems to oppose KAA) voting to empty South Lakes of the neighborhoods given to South Lakes in the South Lakes Boundary Study. That would be two schools (or one and a half) removed from South Lakes--which is not overcrowded.
Oakton--which is approaching capacity--is a very long way from Franklin Farm (where most Crossfield kids live.)
The Crossfield neighborhoods are a short distance from KAA.
It eliminates the very long bus transportation required for Crossfield to Oakton.
KAA is in Sully District.
Oakton is in Providence, I think.
South Lakes is in Hunter Mill.
Franklin Farm (Crossfield students) is in Sully.
Floris students are Sully/Hunter Mill
Sully District SB member: Seema Dixit
Hunter Mill District SB: Melanie Meren
Providence: Karl Frisch--who has expressed concern about bus trip and potential overcrowding at Oakton
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now Fox Mill move to KAA in 3 of 4 scenarios, every FCPS residents should be concerned ans shocked.
Lol why?
Options C and D keep Discovery Square at Westfield instead of KAA--which is less than 2 miles away. I do not see this happening.
I see Option A or B with slight adjustments.
Most logical is option A--with addition of ALL Floris students.
That’s fair.
But why should FCPS residents be concerned and shocked about Fox Mill going to new school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now Fox Mill move to KAA in 3 of 4 scenarios, every FCPS residents should be concerned ans shocked.
Lol why?
Options C and D keep Discovery Square at Westfield instead of KAA--which is less than 2 miles away. I do not see this happening.
I see Option A or B with slight adjustments.
Most logical is option A--with addition of ALL Floris students.