Anonymous wrote:Many of us here have been through this a couple of times (or more). Congress always gets the blame. This is a very high risk strategy by the Dem leadership. I heard Chuck Schumer say the American people are on his side. I find that very hard to believe. If you’re going to fall on your sword it should be over something righteous. Free health care for illegal aliens, seriously?

Anonymous wrote:Fair enough. We’ll see who blinks first. But that still doesn’t address the question of which side the public is on. I remember how Bill Clinton held steadfast against Newt Gingrich, and Clinton is regarded as a strong president, and Gingrich a footnote in history

Anonymous wrote:As long as ICE is still getting paid I don’t see the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I know this is a very DC insider focused thread but as someone who is not in DC, I can tell you most of us dont care at ALL if the government shuts down. I feel like the government shutting down has almost zero downside for the underdog party. The vast majority of Americans will not see immediate job risk issues or immediate ramifications. Sure, it's not great for the TSA but they're not going to find a new career in a week. The dems should shut it down for however long they want. MAGA is psychotic. This is probably the most beige pushback you could give in the circs so they should feel zero pressure to back down until they have to for whatever political reason comes up.

This is one of the dumber posts I've ever read on DCUM.

Many Americans will feel the pain of the government shut down very soon.
This will come back to haunt the GOP.
Yeah, trump may fire lots of government workers, but most will be rehired.
Why is Trump so gung-ho to keep the government open? He knows it's going to kill the GOP if it goes on for a long time.
Finally, the Democrats are standing up and fighting, a bit.
We need a lot more of this.

The post is actually not dumb. You all are just very inside the beltway.

After the 2018–2019 shutdown, a Pew Research Center survey found that only 16% of people said they or a family member were “personally inconvenienced” by the shutdown — and only 7% said it was a major inconvenience. The vast majority (84%) said it had no impact on them.

I agree that the Dems should have shut it down. I just think everyone is overestimating how much the average person cares. You all care bc you are feds. The rest of us barely think about it

+1.

And backing up your claim as factually-accurate with statistical evidence from Pew is just more proof:

- DC is an absurdly biased, partisan bubble, plus

- DCUMAD is a progressive echo-chamber, not a discussion forum.

So you're a radical leftist?

It’s so weird how bad maga is at insulting people 😂

Oh no! We’re all gonna go cry about being called a ‘radical leftist’ or a ‘clown’

Get some better insults.

The "radical leftist" stuff is so tired.

Anonymous wrote:GOP is defunding the police

Department of Homeland Security is cutting over $187 million or 86% of homeland security funding to New York State which will radically defund NYPD, FDNY, and NY State Police terrorism programs

Anonymous wrote:Is the government shut down? I got mail. It seems like a big nothingburger.

Anonymous wrote:Many of us here have been through this a couple of times (or more). Congress always gets the blame. This is a very high risk strategy by the Dem leadership. I heard Chuck Schumer say the American people are on his side. I find that very hard to believe. If you’re going to fall on your sword it should be over something righteous. Free health care for illegal aliens, seriously?

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Anonymous wrote:The President has publicly said on multiple occasions that he’s happy about the shutdown. He has wanted this all along so he can leverage it to continue his unhinged mission to dismantle the federal government and its critical services…based on his misguided partisanship.

Guys, it’s like we have a petulant child in charge of our beloved country.

When will congress push back?

Congress will push back when Republican members of the House and Senate are not afraid of losing their money and their lives.

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Anonymous wrote:The public would care if Social Security checks stopped.

OMFG- they are stopping Social Security payments??!? WTF?

They should every time there's a shutdown. Only way to get people to care.

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Anonymous wrote:The public would care if Social Security checks stopped.

OMFG- they are stopping Social Security payments??!? WTF?

Anonymous wrote:The President has publicly said on multiple occasions that he’s happy about the shutdown. He has wanted this all along so he can leverage it to continue his unhinged mission to dismantle the federal government and its critical services…based on his misguided partisanship.

Guys, it’s like we have a petulant child in charge of our beloved country.

When will congress push back?

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Anonymous wrote:The public would care if Social Security checks stopped.

OMFG- they are stopping Social Security payments??!? WTF?