Anonymous
04/20/2025 21:46
Subject: Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant
So he lost his appeal in 2019 and was able to ignore what the court ordered for over 4 more years before being deported.
Is there any accountability for him in this scenario? Why don't they deport these people straight from the courtrooms right after the judge rules against them. Their bags should be packed and affairs in order before they attend their final court hearing just in case.
Is there any accountability for him in this scenario? Why don't they deport these people straight from the courtrooms right after the judge rules against them. Their bags should be packed and affairs in order before they attend their final court hearing just in case.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 20:39
Subject: Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant
Here are the actual documents. Page 9 is HIS appeal in December 2019. Notice it says "respondent". That’s him. He brought the action.
Page 10: ORDER:Appeal is denied. He lost for the 2nd time
https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline
Page 10: ORDER:Appeal is denied. He lost for the 2nd time
https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline
Anonymous
04/20/2025 20:31
Subject: Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was not granted the right to stay.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is legal and there is illegal but can't be fixed. Or at least the courts cannot order a fix.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He’s doing fine and may well decide he wants to stay in El Salvador at this point. He’s already been moved to a nicer facility.
“Kilmar Abrego Garcia reported to Sen. Chris Van Hollen during a meeting in El Salvador that he was moved nine days ago from that country's Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT, to another facility with better conditions.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/18/senator-van-hollen-kilmar-abrego-garcia-deported/83155989007/
"The guy who America knowingly sent to a torture camp got moved to a nicer prison solely because a Senator personally got involved with his case, therefore it's fine to keep taking untold numbers of human beings off of American soil and knowingly sending them to torture camps."
It's unbelievable and sickening that people who call themselves Americans think things like this. I used to think our country was better than this but these past few years have proved we are rotten to the core with the kinds of people who would have willingly and joyfully sent their Jewish neighbors to concentration camps in 1940s Germany.
It's not OK that these torture camps exist in El Salvador. It's not OK that America is sending anyone to torture camps in El Salvador. The fact that one single person escaped the torture camp in El Salvador does not make it OK that they exist and we're sending people there.
We used to fight wars against countries with torture camps. We called the people who fought against them the "greatest generation" for a reason. If you're not against sending ANYONE from the US to a torture camp you're against America.
Yes. As a reminder, Germany built all of its first and most of its total concentration camps (until midway through the war) outside of Germany.
This precedent suggests further that any of us, once kidnapped by law enforcement and having left the country, are allowed any treatment legally. Please explain how forcing a third generation American from Nebraska with no due process into a jet owned by Venezuelan and then the Venezuelans shoving him out of the plan over international waters, and the US paying them to do this would be against the law if the treatment of Kilgore Garcia is legal.
So what's the solution? Just give up and let Trump run rampant until there is a sufficient change in Congress to permit impeachment? If this Constitutional issue just gets ignored with no remedy, ALL inconvenient Constitutional protections evaporate. Do yo want that?
Unless this is stamped down now, not the Trump agenda but the petulent disregard for federal law and the Constitution, it will only stop if someone important is tragically caught up in one of the assaults and dies or is incarcerated.
Run rampant? You mean like Biden refusing to enforce immigration law and throwing the borders wide open? Just who the F are you?
Show me where Biden imprisoned someone without due process and then I will take you seriously. Who the F are YOU? Someone who doesn’t understand the importance of our constitution apparently.
DP. Just one example is all you need? Ok, here’s one.
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/02/joe-biden-ice-immigration-detention/
If that’s not enough, the ACLU has a report showing the number of immigrants detained in prisons doubled between 2021 and 2023.
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/unchecked-growth-private-prison-corporations-and-immigration-detention-three-years-into-the-biden-administration
Where was your outrage then? Constitution was just written I guess.
Where does it say that this was done without due process? No one ever said you cannot put people in prison at all.
11 Months with no trial is considered due process, but 2 hearings isn’t. Gotcha.
He was granted the right to stay per his latest hearing. Why are you referencing irrelevant prior hearings?
His last hearing granted withholding of removal, that was in 2019 and never appealed within 30 days, under Trump. He cannot be now removed without further due process.
Nope. HE appealed in Dec 2019 and lost. He was set to go
Huh? No.
The actual court documents have been posted in this thread. They’re not hard to understand. He had a hearing in June 2019, and lost. He appealed in December 2019, and lost. There was nothing for the Trump admin to appeal, as they won.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 20:18
Subject: Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was not granted the right to stay.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is legal and there is illegal but can't be fixed. Or at least the courts cannot order a fix.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He’s doing fine and may well decide he wants to stay in El Salvador at this point. He’s already been moved to a nicer facility.
“Kilmar Abrego Garcia reported to Sen. Chris Van Hollen during a meeting in El Salvador that he was moved nine days ago from that country's Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT, to another facility with better conditions.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/18/senator-van-hollen-kilmar-abrego-garcia-deported/83155989007/
"The guy who America knowingly sent to a torture camp got moved to a nicer prison solely because a Senator personally got involved with his case, therefore it's fine to keep taking untold numbers of human beings off of American soil and knowingly sending them to torture camps."
It's unbelievable and sickening that people who call themselves Americans think things like this. I used to think our country was better than this but these past few years have proved we are rotten to the core with the kinds of people who would have willingly and joyfully sent their Jewish neighbors to concentration camps in 1940s Germany.
It's not OK that these torture camps exist in El Salvador. It's not OK that America is sending anyone to torture camps in El Salvador. The fact that one single person escaped the torture camp in El Salvador does not make it OK that they exist and we're sending people there.
We used to fight wars against countries with torture camps. We called the people who fought against them the "greatest generation" for a reason. If you're not against sending ANYONE from the US to a torture camp you're against America.
Yes. As a reminder, Germany built all of its first and most of its total concentration camps (until midway through the war) outside of Germany.
This precedent suggests further that any of us, once kidnapped by law enforcement and having left the country, are allowed any treatment legally. Please explain how forcing a third generation American from Nebraska with no due process into a jet owned by Venezuelan and then the Venezuelans shoving him out of the plan over international waters, and the US paying them to do this would be against the law if the treatment of Kilgore Garcia is legal.
So what's the solution? Just give up and let Trump run rampant until there is a sufficient change in Congress to permit impeachment? If this Constitutional issue just gets ignored with no remedy, ALL inconvenient Constitutional protections evaporate. Do yo want that?
Unless this is stamped down now, not the Trump agenda but the petulent disregard for federal law and the Constitution, it will only stop if someone important is tragically caught up in one of the assaults and dies or is incarcerated.
Run rampant? You mean like Biden refusing to enforce immigration law and throwing the borders wide open? Just who the F are you?
Show me where Biden imprisoned someone without due process and then I will take you seriously. Who the F are YOU? Someone who doesn’t understand the importance of our constitution apparently.
DP. Just one example is all you need? Ok, here’s one.
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/02/joe-biden-ice-immigration-detention/
If that’s not enough, the ACLU has a report showing the number of immigrants detained in prisons doubled between 2021 and 2023.
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/unchecked-growth-private-prison-corporations-and-immigration-detention-three-years-into-the-biden-administration
Where was your outrage then? Constitution was just written I guess.
Where does it say that this was done without due process? No one ever said you cannot put people in prison at all.
11 Months with no trial is considered due process, but 2 hearings isn’t. Gotcha.
He was granted the right to stay per his latest hearing. Why are you referencing irrelevant prior hearings?
His last hearing granted withholding of removal, that was in 2019 and never appealed within 30 days, under Trump. He cannot be now removed without further due process.
Nope. HE appealed in Dec 2019 and lost. He was set to go
Huh? No.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 20:16
Subject: Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was not granted the right to stay.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is legal and there is illegal but can't be fixed. Or at least the courts cannot order a fix.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He’s doing fine and may well decide he wants to stay in El Salvador at this point. He’s already been moved to a nicer facility.
“Kilmar Abrego Garcia reported to Sen. Chris Van Hollen during a meeting in El Salvador that he was moved nine days ago from that country's Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT, to another facility with better conditions.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/18/senator-van-hollen-kilmar-abrego-garcia-deported/83155989007/
"The guy who America knowingly sent to a torture camp got moved to a nicer prison solely because a Senator personally got involved with his case, therefore it's fine to keep taking untold numbers of human beings off of American soil and knowingly sending them to torture camps."
It's unbelievable and sickening that people who call themselves Americans think things like this. I used to think our country was better than this but these past few years have proved we are rotten to the core with the kinds of people who would have willingly and joyfully sent their Jewish neighbors to concentration camps in 1940s Germany.
It's not OK that these torture camps exist in El Salvador. It's not OK that America is sending anyone to torture camps in El Salvador. The fact that one single person escaped the torture camp in El Salvador does not make it OK that they exist and we're sending people there.
We used to fight wars against countries with torture camps. We called the people who fought against them the "greatest generation" for a reason. If you're not against sending ANYONE from the US to a torture camp you're against America.
Yes. As a reminder, Germany built all of its first and most of its total concentration camps (until midway through the war) outside of Germany.
This precedent suggests further that any of us, once kidnapped by law enforcement and having left the country, are allowed any treatment legally. Please explain how forcing a third generation American from Nebraska with no due process into a jet owned by Venezuelan and then the Venezuelans shoving him out of the plan over international waters, and the US paying them to do this would be against the law if the treatment of Kilgore Garcia is legal.
So what's the solution? Just give up and let Trump run rampant until there is a sufficient change in Congress to permit impeachment? If this Constitutional issue just gets ignored with no remedy, ALL inconvenient Constitutional protections evaporate. Do yo want that?
Unless this is stamped down now, not the Trump agenda but the petulent disregard for federal law and the Constitution, it will only stop if someone important is tragically caught up in one of the assaults and dies or is incarcerated.
Run rampant? You mean like Biden refusing to enforce immigration law and throwing the borders wide open? Just who the F are you?
Show me where Biden imprisoned someone without due process and then I will take you seriously. Who the F are YOU? Someone who doesn’t understand the importance of our constitution apparently.
DP. Just one example is all you need? Ok, here’s one.
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/02/joe-biden-ice-immigration-detention/
If that’s not enough, the ACLU has a report showing the number of immigrants detained in prisons doubled between 2021 and 2023.
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/unchecked-growth-private-prison-corporations-and-immigration-detention-three-years-into-the-biden-administration
Where was your outrage then? Constitution was just written I guess.
Where does it say that this was done without due process? No one ever said you cannot put people in prison at all.
11 Months with no trial is considered due process, but 2 hearings isn’t. Gotcha.
He was granted the right to stay per his latest hearing. Why are you referencing irrelevant prior hearings?
His last hearing granted withholding of removal, that was in 2019 and never appealed within 30 days, under Trump. He cannot be now removed without further due process.
Nope. HE appealed in Dec 2019 and lost. He was set to go
Anonymous
04/20/2025 19:47
Subject: Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is legal and there is illegal but can't be fixed. Or at least the courts cannot order a fix.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He’s doing fine and may well decide he wants to stay in El Salvador at this point. He’s already been moved to a nicer facility.
“Kilmar Abrego Garcia reported to Sen. Chris Van Hollen during a meeting in El Salvador that he was moved nine days ago from that country's Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT, to another facility with better conditions.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/18/senator-van-hollen-kilmar-abrego-garcia-deported/83155989007/
"The guy who America knowingly sent to a torture camp got moved to a nicer prison solely because a Senator personally got involved with his case, therefore it's fine to keep taking untold numbers of human beings off of American soil and knowingly sending them to torture camps."
It's unbelievable and sickening that people who call themselves Americans think things like this. I used to think our country was better than this but these past few years have proved we are rotten to the core with the kinds of people who would have willingly and joyfully sent their Jewish neighbors to concentration camps in 1940s Germany.
It's not OK that these torture camps exist in El Salvador. It's not OK that America is sending anyone to torture camps in El Salvador. The fact that one single person escaped the torture camp in El Salvador does not make it OK that they exist and we're sending people there.
We used to fight wars against countries with torture camps. We called the people who fought against them the "greatest generation" for a reason. If you're not against sending ANYONE from the US to a torture camp you're against America.
Yes. As a reminder, Germany built all of its first and most of its total concentration camps (until midway through the war) outside of Germany.
This precedent suggests further that any of us, once kidnapped by law enforcement and having left the country, are allowed any treatment legally. Please explain how forcing a third generation American from Nebraska with no due process into a jet owned by Venezuelan and then the Venezuelans shoving him out of the plan over international waters, and the US paying them to do this would be against the law if the treatment of Kilgore Garcia is legal.
So what's the solution? Just give up and let Trump run rampant until there is a sufficient change in Congress to permit impeachment? If this Constitutional issue just gets ignored with no remedy, ALL inconvenient Constitutional protections evaporate. Do yo want that?
Unless this is stamped down now, not the Trump agenda but the petulent disregard for federal law and the Constitution, it will only stop if someone important is tragically caught up in one of the assaults and dies or is incarcerated.
Run rampant? You mean like Biden refusing to enforce immigration law and throwing the borders wide open? Just who the F are you?
Show me where Biden imprisoned someone without due process and then I will take you seriously. Who the F are YOU? Someone who doesn’t understand the importance of our constitution apparently.
DP. Just one example is all you need? Ok, here’s one.
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/02/joe-biden-ice-immigration-detention/
If that’s not enough, the ACLU has a report showing the number of immigrants detained in prisons doubled between 2021 and 2023.
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/unchecked-growth-private-prison-corporations-and-immigration-detention-three-years-into-the-biden-administration
Where was your outrage then? Constitution was just written I guess.
Where does it say that this was done without due process? No one ever said you cannot put people in prison at all.
11 Months with no trial is considered due process, but 2 hearings isn’t. Gotcha.
He was granted the right to stay per his latest hearing. Why are you referencing irrelevant prior hearings?
Anonymous
04/20/2025 17:31
Subject: Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant
Anonymous wrote:This is a harmless error.
Ending up in CECOT with little to no hope of exiting CECOT is not harmless error. It is, rather, the definition of harmful error.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 17:07
Subject: Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant
Anonymous wrote:This is a harmless error.
Sure totally - the Supreme Court is issuing late-night opinions on holidays because this is all business as usual.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 16:52
Subject: Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant
This is a harmless error.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 13:22
Subject: Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is legal and there is illegal but can't be fixed. Or at least the courts cannot order a fix.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He’s doing fine and may well decide he wants to stay in El Salvador at this point. He’s already been moved to a nicer facility.
“Kilmar Abrego Garcia reported to Sen. Chris Van Hollen during a meeting in El Salvador that he was moved nine days ago from that country's Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT, to another facility with better conditions.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/18/senator-van-hollen-kilmar-abrego-garcia-deported/83155989007/
"The guy who America knowingly sent to a torture camp got moved to a nicer prison solely because a Senator personally got involved with his case, therefore it's fine to keep taking untold numbers of human beings off of American soil and knowingly sending them to torture camps."
It's unbelievable and sickening that people who call themselves Americans think things like this. I used to think our country was better than this but these past few years have proved we are rotten to the core with the kinds of people who would have willingly and joyfully sent their Jewish neighbors to concentration camps in 1940s Germany.
It's not OK that these torture camps exist in El Salvador. It's not OK that America is sending anyone to torture camps in El Salvador. The fact that one single person escaped the torture camp in El Salvador does not make it OK that they exist and we're sending people there.
We used to fight wars against countries with torture camps. We called the people who fought against them the "greatest generation" for a reason. If you're not against sending ANYONE from the US to a torture camp you're against America.
Yes. As a reminder, Germany built all of its first and most of its total concentration camps (until midway through the war) outside of Germany.
This precedent suggests further that any of us, once kidnapped by law enforcement and having left the country, are allowed any treatment legally. Please explain how forcing a third generation American from Nebraska with no due process into a jet owned by Venezuelan and then the Venezuelans shoving him out of the plan over international waters, and the US paying them to do this would be against the law if the treatment of Kilgore Garcia is legal.
So what's the solution? Just give up and let Trump run rampant until there is a sufficient change in Congress to permit impeachment? If this Constitutional issue just gets ignored with no remedy, ALL inconvenient Constitutional protections evaporate. Do yo want that?
Unless this is stamped down now, not the Trump agenda but the petulent disregard for federal law and the Constitution, it will only stop if someone important is tragically caught up in one of the assaults and dies or is incarcerated.
Run rampant? You mean like Biden refusing to enforce immigration law and throwing the borders wide open? Just who the F are you?
Show me where Biden imprisoned someone without due process and then I will take you seriously. Who the F are YOU? Someone who doesn’t understand the importance of our constitution apparently.
DP. Just one example is all you need? Ok, here’s one.
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/02/joe-biden-ice-immigration-detention/
If that’s not enough, the ACLU has a report showing the number of immigrants detained in prisons doubled between 2021 and 2023.
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/unchecked-growth-private-prison-corporations-and-immigration-detention-three-years-into-the-biden-administration
Where was your outrage then? Constitution was just written I guess.
Where does it say that this was done without due process? No one ever said you cannot put people in prison at all.
11 Months with no trial is considered due process, but 2 hearings isn’t. Gotcha.
Why would he get a trial? There are no immigration trials. He certainly got a hearing on his detention. The article also mentions other hearings.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 13:12
Subject: Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant
It’s so interesting that this guy has been convicted of zero felonies and Trump has been convicted of 34. Maybe we should be sending the convicted rapist to El Salvador instead of an innocent man.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 13:04
Subject: Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant
Anonymous wrote:Senator John Kennedy, radical leftist, I know, was on Meet the Press today. HE said yes, the Trump administration screwed the pooch and yes there is no proof the guy is MS-13 or a criminal and yes he deserved due process under the AEA and yes Trump needs to abide by court orders.
Much respect to the Republican mainstream that is finally willing to say stuff like this. Seriously, thank you Sen Kennedy. I disagree with you on probably 95% of policy issues but let’s stand together on the very fundamental interests of democracy.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 12:57
Subject: Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant
Senator John Kennedy, radical leftist, I know, was on Meet the Press today. HE said yes, the Trump administration screwed the pooch and yes there is no proof the guy is MS-13 or a criminal and yes he deserved due process under the AEA and yes Trump needs to abide by court orders.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 12:43
Subject: Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is legal and there is illegal but can't be fixed. Or at least the courts cannot order a fix.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He’s doing fine and may well decide he wants to stay in El Salvador at this point. He’s already been moved to a nicer facility.
“Kilmar Abrego Garcia reported to Sen. Chris Van Hollen during a meeting in El Salvador that he was moved nine days ago from that country's Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT, to another facility with better conditions.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/18/senator-van-hollen-kilmar-abrego-garcia-deported/83155989007/
"The guy who America knowingly sent to a torture camp got moved to a nicer prison solely because a Senator personally got involved with his case, therefore it's fine to keep taking untold numbers of human beings off of American soil and knowingly sending them to torture camps."
It's unbelievable and sickening that people who call themselves Americans think things like this. I used to think our country was better than this but these past few years have proved we are rotten to the core with the kinds of people who would have willingly and joyfully sent their Jewish neighbors to concentration camps in 1940s Germany.
It's not OK that these torture camps exist in El Salvador. It's not OK that America is sending anyone to torture camps in El Salvador. The fact that one single person escaped the torture camp in El Salvador does not make it OK that they exist and we're sending people there.
We used to fight wars against countries with torture camps. We called the people who fought against them the "greatest generation" for a reason. If you're not against sending ANYONE from the US to a torture camp you're against America.
Yes. As a reminder, Germany built all of its first and most of its total concentration camps (until midway through the war) outside of Germany.
This precedent suggests further that any of us, once kidnapped by law enforcement and having left the country, are allowed any treatment legally. Please explain how forcing a third generation American from Nebraska with no due process into a jet owned by Venezuelan and then the Venezuelans shoving him out of the plan over international waters, and the US paying them to do this would be against the law if the treatment of Kilgore Garcia is legal.
So what's the solution? Just give up and let Trump run rampant until there is a sufficient change in Congress to permit impeachment? If this Constitutional issue just gets ignored with no remedy, ALL inconvenient Constitutional protections evaporate. Do yo want that?
Unless this is stamped down now, not the Trump agenda but the petulent disregard for federal law and the Constitution, it will only stop if someone important is tragically caught up in one of the assaults and dies or is incarcerated.
Run rampant? You mean like Biden refusing to enforce immigration law and throwing the borders wide open? Just who the F are you?
Show me where Biden imprisoned someone without due process and then I will take you seriously. Who the F are YOU? Someone who doesn’t understand the importance of our constitution apparently.
DP. Just one example is all you need? Ok, here’s one.
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/02/joe-biden-ice-immigration-detention/
If that’s not enough, the ACLU has a report showing the number of immigrants detained in prisons doubled between 2021 and 2023.
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/unchecked-growth-private-prison-corporations-and-immigration-detention-three-years-into-the-biden-administration
Where was your outrage then? Constitution was just written I guess.
Where does it say that this was done without due process? No one ever said you cannot put people in prison at all.
11 Months with no trial is considered due process, but 2 hearings isn’t. Gotcha.
Anonymous
04/20/2025 12:34
Subject: Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is legal and there is illegal but can't be fixed. Or at least the courts cannot order a fix.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He’s doing fine and may well decide he wants to stay in El Salvador at this point. He’s already been moved to a nicer facility.
“Kilmar Abrego Garcia reported to Sen. Chris Van Hollen during a meeting in El Salvador that he was moved nine days ago from that country's Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT, to another facility with better conditions.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/18/senator-van-hollen-kilmar-abrego-garcia-deported/83155989007/
"The guy who America knowingly sent to a torture camp got moved to a nicer prison solely because a Senator personally got involved with his case, therefore it's fine to keep taking untold numbers of human beings off of American soil and knowingly sending them to torture camps."
It's unbelievable and sickening that people who call themselves Americans think things like this. I used to think our country was better than this but these past few years have proved we are rotten to the core with the kinds of people who would have willingly and joyfully sent their Jewish neighbors to concentration camps in 1940s Germany.
It's not OK that these torture camps exist in El Salvador. It's not OK that America is sending anyone to torture camps in El Salvador. The fact that one single person escaped the torture camp in El Salvador does not make it OK that they exist and we're sending people there.
We used to fight wars against countries with torture camps. We called the people who fought against them the "greatest generation" for a reason. If you're not against sending ANYONE from the US to a torture camp you're against America.
Yes. As a reminder, Germany built all of its first and most of its total concentration camps (until midway through the war) outside of Germany.
This precedent suggests further that any of us, once kidnapped by law enforcement and having left the country, are allowed any treatment legally. Please explain how forcing a third generation American from Nebraska with no due process into a jet owned by Venezuelan and then the Venezuelans shoving him out of the plan over international waters, and the US paying them to do this would be against the law if the treatment of Kilgore Garcia is legal.
So what's the solution? Just give up and let Trump run rampant until there is a sufficient change in Congress to permit impeachment? If this Constitutional issue just gets ignored with no remedy, ALL inconvenient Constitutional protections evaporate. Do yo want that?
Unless this is stamped down now, not the Trump agenda but the petulent disregard for federal law and the Constitution, it will only stop if someone important is tragically caught up in one of the assaults and dies or is incarcerated.
Run rampant? You mean like Biden refusing to enforce immigration law and throwing the borders wide open? Just who the F are you?
Show me where Biden imprisoned someone without due process and then I will take you seriously. Who the F are YOU? Someone who doesn’t understand the importance of our constitution apparently.
DP. Just one example is all you need? Ok, here’s one.
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/02/joe-biden-ice-immigration-detention/
If that’s not enough, the ACLU has a report showing the number of immigrants detained in prisons doubled between 2021 and 2023.
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/unchecked-growth-private-prison-corporations-and-immigration-detention-three-years-into-the-biden-administration
Where was your outrage then? Constitution was just written I guess.
Where does it say that this was done without due process? No one ever said you cannot put people in prison at all.