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Post 06/26/2024 14:34     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like SPED positions are the majority of what is open for the county. What happens when they go unfilled?

I am guessing they put in a long term sub while trying to fill it?


Very low chance of getting a long-term sub for these positions. More likely a rotating cast of daily subs.


That’s what happened at our school this past SY, but it was only for about 3 months.


This is bad.


There’s still the whole summer to hire someone. Please don’t start panicking now. Summer just started.


I’d imagine the only actual teachers available this summer are a few who might be moving from out of the area due to their spouse’s job. New grads were hired months ago and transfers have already been placed. That leaves nobody to fill the vacancies except subs (and good luck finding them!).


July is the tail end of the hiring season. Principals have been able to hire since March so majority have accepted jobs. It’s really only about a month and a half until school starts. New teachers have great beginnings (orientation) August 5 and teachers are back in school prepping on August 12th.


I guess you’ll just have to keep blaming the new principal then, won’t you? Because that’s clearly all you want to do. (Psst - no one is buying it.) Have a nice, relaxing summer, if you can with all the worry about vacancies.


I buy it.

Not as many left with the interim principal
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 13:47     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like SPED positions are the majority of what is open for the county. What happens when they go unfilled?

I am guessing they put in a long term sub while trying to fill it?


Very low chance of getting a long-term sub for these positions. More likely a rotating cast of daily subs.


That’s what happened at our school this past SY, but it was only for about 3 months.


This is bad.


There’s still the whole summer to hire someone. Please don’t start panicking now. Summer just started.


I’d imagine the only actual teachers available this summer are a few who might be moving from out of the area due to their spouse’s job. New grads were hired months ago and transfers have already been placed. That leaves nobody to fill the vacancies except subs (and good luck finding them!).


July is the tail end of the hiring season. Principals have been able to hire since March so majority have accepted jobs. It’s really only about a month and a half until school starts. New teachers have great beginnings (orientation) August 5 and teachers are back in school prepping on August 12th.


I guess you’ll just have to keep blaming the new principal then, won’t you? Because that’s clearly all you want to do. (Psst - no one is buying it.) Have a nice, relaxing summer, if you can with all the worry about vacancies.


I wasn’t talking about any particular school
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 13:38     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It seems like SPED positions are the majority of what is open for the county. What happens when they go unfilled?

I am guessing they put in a long term sub while trying to fill it?


Very low chance of getting a long-term sub for these positions. More likely a rotating cast of daily subs.


That’s what happened at our school this past SY, but it was only for about 3 months.


This is bad.


There’s still the whole summer to hire someone. Please don’t start panicking now. Summer just started.


I’d imagine the only actual teachers available this summer are a few who might be moving from out of the area due to their spouse’s job. New grads were hired months ago and transfers have already been placed. That leaves nobody to fill the vacancies except subs (and good luck finding them!).


July is the tail end of the hiring season. Principals have been able to hire since March so majority have accepted jobs. It’s really only about a month and a half until school starts. New teachers have great beginnings (orientation) August 5 and teachers are back in school prepping on August 12th.


I guess you’ll just have to keep blaming the new principal then, won’t you? Because that’s clearly all you want to do. (Psst - no one is buying it.) Have a nice, relaxing summer, if you can with all the worry about vacancies.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 13:35     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like SPED positions are the majority of what is open for the county. What happens when they go unfilled?

I am guessing they put in a long term sub while trying to fill it?


Very low chance of getting a long-term sub for these positions. More likely a rotating cast of daily subs.


That’s what happened at our school this past SY, but it was only for about 3 months.


This is bad.


There’s still the whole summer to hire someone. Please don’t start panicking now. Summer just started.


I’d imagine the only actual teachers available this summer are a few who might be moving from out of the area due to their spouse’s job. New grads were hired months ago and transfers have already been placed. That leaves nobody to fill the vacancies except subs (and good luck finding them!).


False. New grads would have graduated in early May. They may be hired to FCPS already but not necessarily at a specific school yet. I speak from experience.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 13:12     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like SPED positions are the majority of what is open for the county. What happens when they go unfilled?

I am guessing they put in a long term sub while trying to fill it?


Very low chance of getting a long-term sub for these positions. More likely a rotating cast of daily subs.


That’s what happened at our school this past SY, but it was only for about 3 months.


This is bad.


There’s still the whole summer to hire someone. Please don’t start panicking now. Summer just started.


I’d imagine the only actual teachers available this summer are a few who might be moving from out of the area due to their spouse’s job. New grads were hired months ago and transfers have already been placed. That leaves nobody to fill the vacancies except subs (and good luck finding them!).


July is the tail end of the hiring season. Principals have been able to hire since March so majority have accepted jobs. It’s really only about a month and a half until school starts. New teachers have great beginnings (orientation) August 5 and teachers are back in school prepping on August 12th.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 12:45     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like SPED positions are the majority of what is open for the county. What happens when they go unfilled?

I am guessing they put in a long term sub while trying to fill it?


Very low chance of getting a long-term sub for these positions. More likely a rotating cast of daily subs.


That’s what happened at our school this past SY, but it was only for about 3 months.


This is bad.


There’s still the whole summer to hire someone. Please don’t start panicking now. Summer just started.


I’d imagine the only actual teachers available this summer are a few who might be moving from out of the area due to their spouse’s job. New grads were hired months ago and transfers have already been placed. That leaves nobody to fill the vacancies except subs (and good luck finding them!).
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 12:10     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like SPED positions are the majority of what is open for the county. What happens when they go unfilled?

I am guessing they put in a long term sub while trying to fill it?


Very low chance of getting a long-term sub for these positions. More likely a rotating cast of daily subs.


That’s what happened at our school this past SY, but it was only for about 3 months.


This is bad.


There’s still the whole summer to hire someone. Please don’t start panicking now. Summer just started.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 12:03     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like SPED positions are the majority of what is open for the county. What happens when they go unfilled?

I am guessing they put in a long term sub while trying to fill it?


Very low chance of getting a long-term sub for these positions. More likely a rotating cast of daily subs.


That’s what happened at our school this past SY, but it was only for about 3 months.


This is bad.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 09:29     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like SPED positions are the majority of what is open for the county. What happens when they go unfilled?

I am guessing they put in a long term sub while trying to fill it?


Very low chance of getting a long-term sub for these positions. More likely a rotating cast of daily subs.


That’s what happened at our school this past SY, but it was only for about 3 months.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 08:59     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like SPED positions are the majority of what is open for the county. What happens when they go unfilled?

I am guessing they put in a long term sub while trying to fill it?


Very low chance of getting a long-term sub for these positions. More likely a rotating cast of daily subs.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 08:17     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

Anonymous wrote:It seems like SPED positions are the majority of what is open for the county. What happens when they go unfilled?

I am guessing they put in a long term sub while trying to fill it?
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 22:47     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

It seems like SPED positions are the majority of what is open for the county. What happens when they go unfilled?
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 22:34     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

From the looks of it, vacancy-wise, it appears to be 3 classroom teacher positions that are currently open.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 21:29     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

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Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.


I think people will find this happens at many schools.


I think they are all do nothing admins. Seriously....when do they do anything for students or staff-it's all FCPS jargon and talking all around the issues-but never really taking care of them. It's like they are programmed by FCPS. Really think about it-think how admins speak to parents and in many cases try to avoid parents/student concerns/issues. It's like this with staff as well...they are all the same. Robots. I'm not Navy but I guarantee the new principal is just falling in line with what FCPS demands. Do nothing, say nothing, hear nothing...and most importantly put nothing in writing. FCPS is failing students and staff but they work hard and pay good money to never admit the issues.


I think you are spot on.


100% agree.


I'm one of the PPs from above and a teacher at a different school and I also agree. This is a national issue. The few remaining old school administrators who aren't afraid of Central Office and could retire without financial hardship are at schools where there are very few vacancies year after year.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 21:28     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

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Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.


I think people will find this happens at many schools.


I think they are all do nothing admins. Seriously....when do they do anything for students or staff-it's all FCPS jargon and talking all around the issues-but never really taking care of them. It's like they are programmed by FCPS. Really think about it-think how admins speak to parents and in many cases try to avoid parents/student concerns/issues. It's like this with staff as well...they are all the same. Robots. I'm not Navy but I guarantee the new principal is just falling in line with what FCPS demands. Do nothing, say nothing, hear nothing...and most importantly put nothing in writing. FCPS is failing students and staff but they work hard and pay good money to never admit the issues.


I think you are spot on.


100% agree.


I also wanted to add I think this would have happened under the old administration as well. It’s just easy to scapegoat the new guy. The behavioral issues were bad this year and last year if I recall. We also had some very vocal parents this year (including a sub) - the ones who had the bad classes -and they actually spearheaded the campaign to try to take over one of the community meetings with Dr. Reid to complain about the new principal. From what I heard, it was a complete bust and went absolutely nowhere - only 2-3 Navy parents actually showed up.