Anonymous wrote:M&H should start their own newspaper or magazine.

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Anonymous wrote:Have any of the other members of the royal family commented on the book?

Hopefully, they will have the class to just ignore this soap opera and continue on with their lives.

They don't have class. After reading this book, I see them as any other dumb family trying to hold onto what used to work.

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Anonymous wrote:I read the book. Harry’s ideas were not workable for the royal family. That doesn’t mean they were unwilling to use his ideas. It means they considered his ideas and rejected them because it is not how the royal family works. They encouraged Haz to forge his own path and pay his own way, and he is having his revenge. It’s beyond sad and spiteful.

No. I think you’re lying. You did not read the book. Had you actually read the book you would know that it was workable, as others had done it before. Did you also consider Charles’ book sad and spiteful when he lambasted his mom and others?

I haven't posted since the beginning of this thread and just finished the audible book today. Harry presented 5 options, from nothing to changing to complete cut-off. Apparently he wanted a middle ground, the palace chose the middle ground. I really don't understand why he presented options that were unacceptable to him.

Where did the book say he proposed the five options? I went over that passage again and it says only that he, the Queen, Charles and William were presented with the five options at the Sandringham Summit. I took that to mean the palace had prepared the list of five possible options.

Didn’t he suggest that those options were the ones he sent to his father? The bit that they could have only come from one source?

Maybe an email to the private secretaries? He definitely uses language to suggest he came up the options and they were leaked

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Anonymous wrote:I read the book. Harry’s ideas were not workable for the royal family. That doesn’t mean they were unwilling to use his ideas. It means they considered his ideas and rejected them because it is not how the royal family works. They encouraged Haz to forge his own path and pay his own way, and he is having his revenge. It’s beyond sad and spiteful.

No. I think you’re lying. You did not read the book. Had you actually read the book you would know that it was workable, as others had done it before. Did you also consider Charles’ book sad and spiteful when he lambasted his mom and others?

I haven't posted since the beginning of this thread and just finished the audible book today. Harry presented 5 options, from nothing to changing to complete cut-off. Apparently he wanted a middle ground, the palace chose the middle ground. I really don't understand why he presented options that were unacceptable to him.

Where did the book say he proposed the five options? I went over that passage again and it says only that he, the Queen, Charles and William were presented with the five options at the Sandringham Summit. I took that to mean the palace had prepared the list of five possible options.

Didn’t he suggest that those options were the ones he sent to his father? The bit that they could have only come from one source?

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Anonymous wrote:I read the book. Harry’s ideas were not workable for the royal family. That doesn’t mean they were unwilling to use his ideas. It means they considered his ideas and rejected them because it is not how the royal family works. They encouraged Haz to forge his own path and pay his own way, and he is having his revenge. It’s beyond sad and spiteful.

No. I think you’re lying. You did not read the book. Had you actually read the book you would know that it was workable, as others had done it before. Did you also consider Charles’ book sad and spiteful when he lambasted his mom and others?

I haven't posted since the beginning of this thread and just finished the audible book today. Harry presented 5 options, from nothing to changing to complete cut-off. Apparently he wanted a middle ground, the palace chose the middle ground. I really don't understand why he presented options that were unacceptable to him.

Where did the book say he proposed the five options? I went over that passage again and it says only that he, the Queen, Charles and William were presented with the five options at the Sandringham Summit. I took that to mean the palace had prepared the list of five possible options.

Didn’t he suggest that those options were the ones he sent to his father? The bit that they could have only come from one source?

Maybe an email to the private secretaries? He definitely uses language to suggest he came up the options and they were leaked

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Anonymous wrote:I read the book. Harry’s ideas were not workable for the royal family. That doesn’t mean they were unwilling to use his ideas. It means they considered his ideas and rejected them because it is not how the royal family works. They encouraged Haz to forge his own path and pay his own way, and he is having his revenge. It’s beyond sad and spiteful.

No. I think you’re lying. You did not read the book. Had you actually read the book you would know that it was workable, as others had done it before. Did you also consider Charles’ book sad and spiteful when he lambasted his mom and others?

I haven't posted since the beginning of this thread and just finished the audible book today. Harry presented 5 options, from nothing to changing to complete cut-off. Apparently he wanted a middle ground, the palace chose the middle ground. I really don't understand why he presented options that were unacceptable to him.

Where did the book say he proposed the five options? I went over that passage again and it says only that he, the Queen, Charles and William were presented with the five options at the Sandringham Summit. I took that to mean the palace had prepared the list of five possible options.

Didn’t he suggest that those options were the ones he sent to his father? The bit that they could have only come from one source?

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Anonymous wrote:I read the book. Harry’s ideas were not workable for the royal family. That doesn’t mean they were unwilling to use his ideas. It means they considered his ideas and rejected them because it is not how the royal family works. They encouraged Haz to forge his own path and pay his own way, and he is having his revenge. It’s beyond sad and spiteful.

No. I think you’re lying. You did not read the book. Had you actually read the book you would know that it was workable, as others had done it before. Did you also consider Charles’ book sad and spiteful when he lambasted his mom and others?

I haven't posted since the beginning of this thread and just finished the audible book today. Harry presented 5 options, from nothing to changing to complete cut-off. Apparently he wanted a middle ground, the palace chose the middle ground. I really don't understand why he presented options that were unacceptable to him.

Where did the book say he proposed the five options? I went over that passage again and it says only that he, the Queen, Charles and William were presented with the five options at the Sandringham Summit. I took that to mean the palace had prepared the list of five possible options.

Anonymous wrote:William and to some degree Meghan seem to be a bit insecure. Maybe that's why they don't get along.
Kate seems to be a snob, who comes from a noble family, her mother was a flight attendant, a waitress.
Harry is smart, juggling lots of balls, but too naive to see how he could drop them all.
That said, I am starting to see why Diana said that Harry would make a better king.

Anonymous wrote:Charles really does not know how to help anyone. He couldn't help Diana, and he couldn't help Harry.
Also, why do you call your son darling and treat him like that?

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Anonymous wrote:I read the book. Harry’s ideas were not workable for the royal family. That doesn’t mean they were unwilling to use his ideas. It means they considered his ideas and rejected them because it is not how the royal family works. They encouraged Haz to forge his own path and pay his own way, and he is having his revenge. It’s beyond sad and spiteful.

No. I think you’re lying. You did not read the book. Had you actually read the book you would know that it was workable, as others had done it before. Did you also consider Charles’ book sad and spiteful when he lambasted his mom and others?

I haven't posted since the beginning of this thread and just finished the audible book today. Harry presented 5 options, from nothing to changing to complete cut-off. Apparently he wanted a middle ground, the palace chose the middle ground. I really don't understand why he presented options that were unacceptable to him.

Anonymous wrote:Idk why someone knowing a spare can't be a king, would put these ideas in his head. Why not tell him to rule the hearts not colonies, instead of pitting him against his brother.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll admit I didn’t read the book….can someone explain the charlotte dress thing to me? It just seems like the dress was too big, a tailors was brought in to hem it….I can’t possibly imagine what the big deal was. Every reasonable bride I know would tell the mom “oh, if it’s that big a deal, just get her a different one, or she can change out of it right away, or she can bail or whatever works”. And every reasonable mom I know would try to make it work and go buy some other white dress if need be. How on earth did this become some big thing?

The reasonable bride brought in a tailor. The mom, instead of taking the kid to get the dress altered, repeatedly texted the bride, noted that her own designer felt the fit was off, and suggested — with less than a week to go — that ALL of the bridesmaids should have their dresses remade.
I think any reasonable mom would have gone to the prearranged fitting before hectoring an already stressed bride.

The “big thing” is the context of how Meghan was treated by the family and the press, and how family representatives fed stories to the press to denigrate Meghan, at times that seemed designed to deflect attention from other members of the family who were receiving less than positive press. In a reasonable family, this would have been a private incident, easily resolved.

+1. Meghan or somebody had a tailor lined up IN Kensington Palace. If Kate herself was unable to take Charlotte to get the dress altered, she has plenty of staff and one of them could have gone to the tailor. And where does "all the dresses need to be remade" come from?

Kate had just given birth 6 weeks prior. I don't understand why Givenchy did not send a seamstress over from Paris to make the final adjustments to the bridesmaids dresses. It was a 40 million dollar wedding. Kate was living a 2 hour drive from London with her young children. It was a 4 hour round trip drive with Charlotte (by someone).

Meghan was sending the mothers to a mens tailoring shop in London so that the dresses could be adjusted.

Perhaps you’re talking about a fitting for the pageboys? As a PP has noted, there was a tailor available at Kensington Palace to handle alterations on the dresses. I have no idea where Kate was staying, but she and William have a mansion sized apartment in Kensington Palace.
If they were staying somewhere else at the time, while it might have been a drive, it would have addressed the problem. There were, of course, other ways to address it — but making new dresses, as Kate apparently suggested, would still have involved visits for measurements and fittings, so someone would have needed to travel either way.

DP. This is all coming across as rather Bridezilla. That's understandable, a lot of women do it, and she was anxious to make a good impression, but it's not the right way to do that. Yes, the paps are mean and the tabloids are nuts in the UK - she unfortunately gave them a lot to work with.

Adding, all of this would be overcome over time. All they had to, if they wanted to beat the tabloids, was to stick around. There was nothing that Meghan could do or say, or mess up or not say, that would unseat them. The only possible way that H&M would be unroyaled or un-UKed would be if they left on their own.

Anonymous wrote:William and to some degree Meghan seem to be a bit insecure. Maybe that's why they don't get along.
Kate seems to be a snob, who comes from a noble family, her mother was a flight attendant, a waitress.
Harry is smart, juggling lots of balls, but too naive to see how he could drop them all.
That said, I am starting to see why Diana said that Harry would make a better king.