Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 13:40     Subject: The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We haven't had any abortion laws at all here in Canada for 30 years and the sky hasn't fallen. It it considered a medical procedure decided on between a woman and her doctor and nobody else's business.


This is why we can’t take you unequivocally pro abortion people seriously. It’s the man’s business too — if as the man want to keep the baby I should be able to. In addition, if I as a man don’t want to pay for the baby but the woman wants to keep it, I should have to. Men should have the same rights as women in the matter otherwise women have all the rights, men have none, and the baby that you murdered has none.


Okay, hun. As soon as the fetus can be transferred to your body to carry you go for it.

LOL we all know you would never in a million years agree to lend your body for 9 months to gestate a pregnancy.

Agreed.
No more ending the life of a fetus once it’s viable without its mother.


You can choose not to end the life of a fetus once it’s viable without its mother. I might choose otherwise.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 13:34     Subject: The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We haven't had any abortion laws at all here in Canada for 30 years and the sky hasn't fallen. It it considered a medical procedure decided on between a woman and her doctor and nobody else's business.


This is why we can’t take you unequivocally pro abortion people seriously. It’s the man’s business too — if as the man want to keep the baby I should be able to. In addition, if I as a man don’t want to pay for the baby but the woman wants to keep it, I should have to. Men should have the same rights as women in the matter otherwise women have all the rights, men have none, and the baby that you murdered has none.


Okay, hun. As soon as the fetus can be transferred to your body to carry you go for it.

LOL we all know you would never in a million years agree to lend your body for 9 months to gestate a pregnancy.

Agreed.
No more ending the life of a fetus once it’s viable without its mother.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 13:23     Subject: The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We haven't had any abortion laws at all here in Canada for 30 years and the sky hasn't fallen. It it considered a medical procedure decided on between a woman and her doctor and nobody else's business.


This is why we can’t take you unequivocally pro abortion people seriously. It’s the man’s business too — if as the man want to keep the baby I should be able to. In addition, if I as a man don’t want to pay for the baby but the woman wants to keep it, I should have to. Men should have the same rights as women in the matter otherwise women have all the rights, men have none, and the baby that you murdered has none.


You body = your choice. If you want to make sure you’re not fathering children, get a vasectomy.

If Republicans were serious about decreasing abortions they would have males get a vasectomy at X age and babies would only be created once it was reversed OR in a lab. They never seem to want to control a mans body or his sperm- only women, birth control, etc. Improve the science of vasectomies and reversals and voila!
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 13:00     Subject: The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We haven't had any abortion laws at all here in Canada for 30 years and the sky hasn't fallen. It it considered a medical procedure decided on between a woman and her doctor and nobody else's business.


This is why we can’t take you unequivocally pro abortion people seriously. It’s the man’s business too — if as the man want to keep the baby I should be able to. In addition, if I as a man don’t want to pay for the baby but the woman wants to keep it, I should have to. Men should have the same rights as women in the matter otherwise women have all the rights, men have none, and the baby that you murdered has none.


Okay, hun. As soon as the fetus can be transferred to your body to carry you go for it.

LOL we all know you would never in a million years agree to lend your body for 9 months to gestate a pregnancy.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 12:41     Subject: The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We haven't had any abortion laws at all here in Canada for 30 years and the sky hasn't fallen. It it considered a medical procedure decided on between a woman and her doctor and nobody else's business.


This is why we can’t take you unequivocally pro abortion people seriously. It’s the man’s business too — if as the man want to keep the baby I should be able to. In addition, if I as a man don’t want to pay for the baby but the woman wants to keep it, I should have to. Men should have the same rights as women in the matter otherwise women have all the rights, men have none, and the baby that you murdered has none.

If you want to keep a baby, put your sperm in a woman who wants to keep your baby. After that it’s not your decision.


+1

You lose all rights if you ejaculate irresponsibly.

Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 12:16     Subject: The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We haven't had any abortion laws at all here in Canada for 30 years and the sky hasn't fallen. It it considered a medical procedure decided on between a woman and her doctor and nobody else's business.


This is why we can’t take you unequivocally pro abortion people seriously. It’s the man’s business too — if as the man want to keep the baby I should be able to. In addition, if I as a man don’t want to pay for the baby but the woman wants to keep it, I should have to. Men should have the same rights as women in the matter otherwise women have all the rights, men have none, and the baby that you murdered has none.

If you want to keep a baby, put your sperm in a woman who wants to keep your baby. After that it’s not your decision.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 11:52     Subject: The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We haven't had any abortion laws at all here in Canada for 30 years and the sky hasn't fallen. It it considered a medical procedure decided on between a woman and her doctor and nobody else's business.


This is why we can’t take you unequivocally pro abortion people seriously. It’s the man’s business too — if as the man want to keep the baby I should be able to. In addition, if I as a man don’t want to pay for the baby but the woman wants to keep it, I should have to. Men should have the same rights as women in the matter otherwise women have all the rights, men have none, and the baby that you murdered has none.


You body = your choice. If you want to make sure you’re not fathering children, get a vasectomy.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 09:47     Subject: The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We haven't had any abortion laws at all here in Canada for 30 years and the sky hasn't fallen. It it considered a medical procedure decided on between a woman and her doctor and nobody else's business.


This is why we can’t take you unequivocally pro abortion people seriously. It’s the man’s business too — if as the man want to keep the baby I should be able to. In addition, if I as a man don’t want to pay for the baby but the woman wants to keep it, I should have to. Men should have the same rights as women in the matter otherwise women have all the rights, men have none, and the baby that you murdered has none.


Hell no. The man isn’t have to pregnant, the man doesn’t give have to birth, the man doesn’t have to breastfeed, and I could go on.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 08:55     Subject: The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
Anonymous wrote:When you provide an environment where a pregnant women's medical bills are paid, she is guaranteed paid time off for all of the medical appointments, she is guaranteed time off after hte baby (PAID) and not some measly 6 weeks but a full 6 months (which is still lower than most industrialized nations) and she is guarenteed medical care for her and the baby for at least 1 full year after birth AND she gets adequate compensation from the father (and not based on his pay but based on the true cost to raise that kid in todays world) THEN we can talk about forced birth.

I have never understood why a man gets to only give what he can afford but the woman then needs to make up the rest. What if she can't afford it? Oh, too bad I guess. We will provide 0 safety nets for you adn see you adn your bastard child as a drain on society. But the man gets to give a small pittence and is deemed anythng but a deadbeat dad. Why the hell is that? Child support should be based on what the cost of that kid truly is. If that is $1000 a month for food, care, medicine then that man needs to pony up at least half, more if he is not having the kid live with him. Maybe then men will be deterred from forcing these situations but as it stands only the woman's life is altered by a birth.


I agree with you. That’s why woman must protect themselves and use birth control. They can’t depend on the man they have sex with. Teach your daughters that lesson.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 08:52     Subject: The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
Anonymous wrote:Yall know that back when the United States was formed abortion was fully legal and accessible and USED right. Like the framers so zero wrong with it because they didn't use religion to base laws. in fact that was somethign they activley tried to NOT have happen. They wanted religion OUT Of policy and laws.

Sounds about right to me. So this means that it becomes a state decision?
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 08:31     Subject: The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
Yall know that back when the United States was formed abortion was fully legal and accessible and USED right. Like the framers so zero wrong with it because they didn't use religion to base laws. in fact that was somethign they activley tried to NOT have happen. They wanted religion OUT Of policy and laws.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 08:29     Subject: The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
When you provide an environment where a pregnant women's medical bills are paid, she is guaranteed paid time off for all of the medical appointments, she is guaranteed time off after hte baby (PAID) and not some measly 6 weeks but a full 6 months (which is still lower than most industrialized nations) and she is guarenteed medical care for her and the baby for at least 1 full year after birth AND she gets adequate compensation from the father (and not based on his pay but based on the true cost to raise that kid in todays world) THEN we can talk about forced birth.

I have never understood why a man gets to only give what he can afford but the woman then needs to make up the rest. What if she can't afford it? Oh, too bad I guess. We will provide 0 safety nets for you adn see you adn your bastard child as a drain on society. But the man gets to give a small pittence and is deemed anythng but a deadbeat dad. Why the hell is that? Child support should be based on what the cost of that kid truly is. If that is $1000 a month for food, care, medicine then that man needs to pony up at least half, more if he is not having the kid live with him. Maybe then men will be deterred from forcing these situations but as it stands only the woman's life is altered by a birth.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 08:07     Subject: The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We haven't had any abortion laws at all here in Canada for 30 years and the sky hasn't fallen. It it considered a medical procedure decided on between a woman and her doctor and nobody else's business.


This is why we can’t take you unequivocally pro abortion people seriously. It’s the man’s business too — if as the man want to keep the baby I should be able to. In addition, if I as a man don’t want to pay for the baby but the woman wants to keep it, I should have to. Men should have the same rights as women in the matter otherwise women have all the rights, men have none, and the baby that you murdered has none.

When you can take on all the risks of pregnancy, then you get a say. If you want to experience parenthood, find a willing partner, stop trying to procreate with unwilling women.

Also, your sex partners who have aborted aren’t murdering babies, though I can see from the tone of your post why they chose not to be yoked to you permanently.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 08:03     Subject: The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We haven't had any abortion laws at all here in Canada for 30 years and the sky hasn't fallen. It it considered a medical procedure decided on between a woman and her doctor and nobody else's business.


This is why we can’t take you unequivocally pro abortion people seriously. It’s the man’s business too — if as the man want to keep the baby I should be able to. In addition, if I as a man don’t want to pay for the baby but the woman wants to keep it, I should have to. Men should have the same rights as women in the matter otherwise women have all the rights, men have none, and the baby that you murdered has none.


Shame,shame, shame. Don’t you know that “it takes two to make a thing go right, (but) it take one (the woman) to make it (the baby) outta sight”?

Abortion rights are about a woman’s right to be selfish regardless of the consequences and concerns of either the father or the child. It’s “my” body, and “my” choice. What that camp fails to recognize are the other two parties (father and child) involved. Hence, they are failing in their arguments to remain empowered with that choice. Just poor negotiating tactics. A blunt instrument against a delicate and sensitive subject.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2022 07:51     Subject: The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
Anonymous wrote:We haven't had any abortion laws at all here in Canada for 30 years and the sky hasn't fallen. It it considered a medical procedure decided on between a woman and her doctor and nobody else's business.


This is why we can’t take you unequivocally pro abortion people seriously. It’s the man’s business too — if as the man want to keep the baby I should be able to. In addition, if I as a man don’t want to pay for the baby but the woman wants to keep it, I should have to. Men should have the same rights as women in the matter otherwise women have all the rights, men have none, and the baby that you murdered has none.