Tennis is not her priority anymore.

I suspect a great part of her mental stress is a struggle with what comes next ionce you abandon what had been central to your entire life for 2 decades.

She will need to recreate herself. And that is ok.

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Anonymous wrote:She got rich and famous and got lost in the sauce. Many such cases.

Worth noting her career has done nothing but decline from her Jan. 2019 peak ever since she began dating a rapper in 2019. I suspect her discipline-style parents controlled all of her life prior to the rapper coming into the picture. After the rapper she's independent, she can do what she wants, her training and regimen takes a backseat.

Well, now she's an independent loser.

Huh? What's the rapper got to do with this? There has been nothing said in the press about his influence on her. He seems supportive of Naomi.

It's on her wikipedia page. It's clearly not a coincidence her career has taken a nosedive, her training is not cutting it, and she's turned into this racial social justice warrior disrupter right after she began dating him.

Is this where you get your news? Pathetic...

Wikipedia aside..... This is true....

Osaka has been dating Cordae, a rapper previously known as YBN Cordae, for about two years. According to Osaka, he's been an essential part of her journey. While the couple is quite private, Osaka wrote a heartfelt message to Cordae after his show of support during the 2020 U.S. Open.

I used to watch Osaka play. Loved her enthusiasm and love of the game. She was genuinely excited to play and her enthusiasm came through in her play and her interviews.
Then, last summer she seemed more concerned with playing the role of SJW. Every mask she wore sent some kind of message. Every interview had some twist to it. Her twitter feed went from tennis pics and updates to BLM stuff. She didn't seem excited about the tennis. It was a huge change.
I think she needs to hire a really good sports psychologist and think seriously about who she surrounds herself with. It was such a dramatic change in a short time......

He career peak was Jan. 2019? She began dating him in the spring or summer of 2019? Downhill ever since. What a coincidence!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She got rich and famous and got lost in the sauce. Many such cases.

Worth noting her career has done nothing but decline from her Jan. 2019 peak ever since she began dating a rapper in 2019. I suspect her discipline-style parents controlled all of her life prior to the rapper coming into the picture. After the rapper she's independent, she can do what she wants, her training and regimen takes a backseat.

Well, now she's an independent loser.

Huh? What's the rapper got to do with this? There has been nothing said in the press about his influence on her. He seems supportive of Naomi.

It's on her wikipedia page. It's clearly not a coincidence her career has taken a nosedive, her training is not cutting it, and she's turned into this racial social justice warrior disrupter right after she began dating him.

Is this where you get your news? Pathetic...

They look pretty content.

He's an uneducated bum loser. He ought to feel really macho that he corrupted her and torpedoed her career over the last 24 months.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She got rich and famous and got lost in the sauce. Many such cases.

Worth noting her career has done nothing but decline from her Jan. 2019 peak ever since she began dating a rapper in 2019. I suspect her discipline-style parents controlled all of her life prior to the rapper coming into the picture. After the rapper she's independent, she can do what she wants, her training and regimen takes a backseat.

Well, now she's an independent loser.

Huh? What's the rapper got to do with this? There has been nothing said in the press about his influence on her. He seems supportive of Naomi.

It's on her wikipedia page. It's clearly not a coincidence her career has taken a nosedive, her training is not cutting it, and she's turned into this racial social justice warrior disrupter right after she began dating him.

Is this where you get your news? Pathetic...

Wikipedia aside..... This is true....

Osaka has been dating Cordae, a rapper previously known as YBN Cordae, for about two years. According to Osaka, he's been an essential part of her journey. While the couple is quite private, Osaka wrote a heartfelt message to Cordae after his show of support during the 2020 U.S. Open.

I used to watch Osaka play. Loved her enthusiasm and love of the game. She was genuinely excited to play and her enthusiasm came through in her play and her interviews.
Then, last summer she seemed more concerned with playing the role of SJW. Every mask she wore sent some kind of message. Every interview had some twist to it. Her twitter feed went from tennis pics and updates to BLM stuff. She didn't seem excited about the tennis. It was a huge change.
I think she needs to hire a really good sports psychologist and think seriously about who she surrounds herself with. It was such a dramatic change in a short time......

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She got rich and famous and got lost in the sauce. Many such cases.

Worth noting her career has done nothing but decline from her Jan. 2019 peak ever since she began dating a rapper in 2019. I suspect her discipline-style parents controlled all of her life prior to the rapper coming into the picture. After the rapper she's independent, she can do what she wants, her training and regimen takes a backseat.

Well, now she's an independent loser.

Huh? What's the rapper got to do with this? There has been nothing said in the press about his influence on her. He seems supportive of Naomi.

It's on her wikipedia page. It's clearly not a coincidence her career has taken a nosedive, her training is not cutting it, and she's turned into this racial social justice warrior disrupter right after she began dating him.

Is this where you get your news? Pathetic...

They look pretty content.

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Anonymous wrote:When you look at her overall wealth, very little of that comes from prize money from tennis. She has a very lucrative deal with Nike and many other endorsements and partnerships.

That's part of her problem. She let the endorsements and partnership distract her and convince her she's above accountability.

Above accountability? WTH? Ugh. You are jealous.

Nope. I simply expect her and anyone really to fulfill the terms of their employment. For her it includes press.

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Anonymous wrote:I think any time you get a youth who is obsessed or only doing one thing and not living a well rounded lifestyle over time they will crack.

DH works with a retired pro athlete and by her account, pro athletes are insane and extreme people. To do the same thing day in and day out over many many years starting as a child requires a certain type of personality that isn’t necessarily suited for reality. Add to that level of perfectionism and competitiveness racism plus misogyny and sofia media and an international stage, and I think you have a recipe for a mental health breakdown.

I hope Naomi Osaka takes some time off and figures out who she is besides tennis, and comes back healthier and stronger.

You must not understand women's tennis. Aside from one roided freak outlier, it's a late teens and early 20s game. If she really goes away for a while, it's essentially a de facto retirement.

Gee I wonder who you’re referring to? Serena should teach a class on mental toughness. She had to deal with racist and sexist bullshit her entire career ( long before it was acceptable to call it out) and still managed to win.

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Anonymous wrote:She's clearly a flash in the pan wash up.

Just like Andy Roddick was 16 to 18 years ago. Nobody made it some huge deal when Roddick's career quickly fizzled out but with this annoying spoiled brat we all have to coddle her, make it some huge production, change rules, and whip up a dramatic mental health awareness infomercial to scapegoat a loss of fire/talent. There is a flash in the pan male golfer on the PGA Tour literally every 12 to 24 months. I'm tired of hearing about this woman. She's a washed up attention-craving phony.

You saw the title, nobody forced you to open and read this thread.

I don't think you can call anyone who has won four major titles and then some in a short amount of time a flash in the pan.

I wonder how much of the pressure to come back quickly is related to how the rankings system works as well as endorsement contracts and feeling obligated to sponsors.

Mental illness is so tough. If this were a torn ligament or something, there would be lots of experts explaining how much time off she would need. It is probably difficult for her to know until she gets back in a tournament whether or not she is ready.

I think she is a tremendous talent on the court and off the court, has gone out of her way to be very candid about her struggles. I wish her well and hope she can find her way back.

That’s the definition of flash in the bad, briefly dominant followed by a fade into mediocrity. That seems to describe her career to a tee

Honestly, this is very relatable. I'm not a world-class athlete, nor am I as young as she is. But I have gone through a major depression and it looks so much like this. I feel like I can recognize the triggers, too: a bunch of different factors, some personal some general, all sort of coalescing at once. I feel like Covid and the disruption it caused to training, scheduled events, and just general anxiety about the pandemic must play a large role in some of the very public mental health issues we've seen from Osaka, Biles, and others. Here in DC, I remember hearing Sean Doolittle talk about the stress from the pandemic and how it played into his last year playing in DC. We've all been through a lot and of course people who were already in high pressure situations felt that too. I think being young and relying on your body functioning at a high level for your income might heighten this as well, especially for people who play individual sports.

Then youth, going through a slump, maybe some personal turmoil -- it's totally normal to just get overwhelmed and need time. Athletes are human. And Osaka and Biles and some of these others are very young. We forget because they come off as so mature due to their training and discipline. But they aren't -- they are essentially kids.

Anyway, I went through a similar kind of breakdown in my earl-mid 30s that led to a total overhaul of my career and my social systems and it was embarrassing and frustrating and disorganized and also very, very necessary. I wish her well and hope she figures out what she needs to be regulated and healthy, mentally and physically. Whether that's as a tennis star or not. It really doesn't matter. You live once, no point in doing anything purely out of obligation, including play a game with a racket and ball and net. None of it really matters unless you take joy from it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She got rich and famous and got lost in the sauce. Many such cases.

Worth noting her career has done nothing but decline from her Jan. 2019 peak ever since she began dating a rapper in 2019. I suspect her discipline-style parents controlled all of her life prior to the rapper coming into the picture. After the rapper she's independent, she can do what she wants, her training and regimen takes a backseat.

Well, now she's an independent loser.

Huh? What's the rapper got to do with this? There has been nothing said in the press about his influence on her. He seems supportive of Naomi.

It's on her wikipedia page. It's clearly not a coincidence her career has taken a nosedive, her training is not cutting it, and she's turned into this racial social justice warrior disrupter right after she began dating him.

Is this where you get your news? Pathetic...

Anonymous wrote:I think any time you get a youth who is obsessed or only doing one thing and not living a well rounded lifestyle over time they will crack.

DH works with a retired pro athlete and by her account, pro athletes are insane and extreme people. To do the same thing day in and day out over many many years starting as a child requires a certain type of personality that isn’t necessarily suited for reality. Add to that level of perfectionism and competitiveness racism plus misogyny and sofia media and an international stage, and I think you have a recipe for a mental health breakdown.

I hope Naomi Osaka takes some time off and figures out who she is besides tennis, and comes back healthier and stronger.

You must not understand women's tennis. Aside from one roided freak outlier, it's a late teens and early 20s game. If she really goes away for a while, it's essentially a de facto retirement.

I think any time you get a youth who is obsessed or only doing one thing and not living a well rounded lifestyle over time they will crack.

DH works with a retired pro athlete and by her account, pro athletes are insane and extreme people. To do the same thing day in and day out over many many years starting as a child requires a certain type of personality that isn’t necessarily suited for reality. Add to that level of perfectionism and competitiveness racism plus misogyny and sofia media and an international stage, and I think you have a recipe for a mental health breakdown.

I hope Naomi Osaka takes some time off and figures out who she is besides tennis, and comes back healthier and stronger.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She got rich and famous and got lost in the sauce. Many such cases.

Worth noting her career has done nothing but decline from her Jan. 2019 peak ever since she began dating a rapper in 2019. I suspect her discipline-style parents controlled all of her life prior to the rapper coming into the picture. After the rapper she's independent, she can do what she wants, her training and regimen takes a backseat.

Well, now she's an independent loser.

Huh? What's the rapper got to do with this? There has been nothing said in the press about his influence on her. He seems supportive of Naomi.

It's on her wikipedia page. It's clearly not a coincidence her career has taken a nosedive, her training is not cutting it, and she's turned into this racial social justice warrior disrupter right after she began dating him.

Is this where you get your news? Pathetic...

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She's clearly a flash in the pan wash up.

Just like Andy Roddick was 16 to 18 years ago. Nobody made it some huge deal when Roddick's career quickly fizzled out but with this annoying spoiled brat we all have to coddle her, make it some huge production, change rules, and whip up a dramatic mental health awareness infomercial to scapegoat a loss of fire/talent. There is a flash in the pan male golfer on the PGA Tour literally every 12 to 24 months. I'm tired of hearing about this woman. She's a washed up attention-craving phony.

You saw the title, nobody forced you to open and read this thread.

I don't think you can call anyone who has won four major titles and then some in a short amount of time a flash in the pan.

I wonder how much of the pressure to come back quickly is related to how the rankings system works as well as endorsement contracts and feeling obligated to sponsors.

Mental illness is so tough. If this were a torn ligament or something, there would be lots of experts explaining how much time off she would need. It is probably difficult for her to know until she gets back in a tournament whether or not she is ready.

I think she is a tremendous talent on the court and off the court, has gone out of her way to be very candid about her struggles. I wish her well and hope she can find her way back.

What do you call golfer David Duval, if you even know who that is? Same sort of flash in the pan career.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duval

Maria Sharapova's career also fizzled out after a couple of years. Then she got caught doping later in her career.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Sharapova

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Anonymous wrote:She got rich and famous and got lost in the sauce. Many such cases.

Worth noting her career has done nothing but decline from her Jan. 2019 peak ever since she began dating a rapper in 2019. I suspect her discipline-style parents controlled all of her life prior to the rapper coming into the picture. After the rapper she's independent, she can do what she wants, her training and regimen takes a backseat.

Well, now she's an independent loser.

Huh? What's the rapper got to do with this? There has been nothing said in the press about his influence on her. He seems supportive of Naomi.

It's on her wikipedia page. It's clearly not a coincidence her career has taken a nosedive, her training is not cutting it, and she's turned into this racial social justice warrior disrupter right after she began dating him.