Your OBGYN will be telling you on Monday that they, smfm, acog and the cdc strongly recommend that you get the vaccine. There can be no long term effects if you die of COVID.

Their recs come from the medical bodies that govern their medical licensure. Now that their is strong rec…they will say those words.

You have access to a vaccine that billions of people in the world don’t. It is unbelievable that you are still ruminating.

I haven't read through so I don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but don't be this mom, who saw her new baby one time before she was carted away to the ICU and died. That baby is growing up without a mom now. *The article doesn't say if mom was vaccinated or not, but implies she was not.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/13/florida-mother-covid/

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how any pregnant woman can read the above and not walk to the closest Walgreens and get a shot immediately. Imagine leaving your child an orphan because you thought you knew better than literally every scientific expert out there.

OP here but do you get that every scientific expert I’ve asked aka the docs in my OB practice and I guess I’ll ask my MFM have just said we don’t know what long term effects are but look at these great short term effects. So, no, no one has offered me any assurances as in “you’re fine” like you all have said about the nipt and 20 week ultrasound that the organs are formed, the vaccine components won’t affect organ development further down or have any implication for any neurological or other issues for baby that will grow up. I know “artful” doging when I see it, if your OBs told you something better tell me!

To the PP, yes when shit hits the fan I guess you’re right I wouldn’t refuse that treatment because it’s inevitable, but getting covid is …avoidable? Or at least in my mind and my current situation.

How is COVID avoidable? Are you delivering at home? Does your OB make house calls? Because where I go in dc, they have me in every 4 weeks right now and with stats I’m seeing 1 in 4 women there are not vaccinated, meaning it is not avoidable for me.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how any pregnant woman can read the above and not walk to the closest Walgreens and get a shot immediately. Imagine leaving your child an orphan because you thought you knew better than literally every scientific expert out there.

OP here but do you get that every scientific expert I’ve asked aka the docs in my OB practice and I guess I’ll ask my MFM have just said we don’t know what long term effects are but look at these great short term effects. So, no, no one has offered me any assurances as in “you’re fine” like you all have said about the nipt and 20 week ultrasound that the organs are formed, the vaccine components won’t affect organ development further down or have any implication for any neurological or other issues for baby that will grow up. I know “artful” doging when I see it, if your OBs told you something better tell me!

To the PP, yes when shit hits the fan I guess you’re right I wouldn’t refuse that treatment because it’s inevitable, but getting covid is …avoidable? Or at least in my mind and my current situation.

What a tiresome troll.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how any pregnant woman can read the above and not walk to the closest Walgreens and get a shot immediately. Imagine leaving your child an orphan because you thought you knew better than literally every scientific expert out there.

OP here but do you get that every scientific expert I’ve asked aka the docs in my OB practice and I guess I’ll ask my MFM have just said we don’t know what long term effects are but look at these great short term effects. So, no, no one has offered me any assurances as in “you’re fine” like you all have said about the nipt and 20 week ultrasound that the organs are formed, the vaccine components won’t affect organ development further down or have any implication for any neurological or other issues for baby that will grow up. I know “artful” doging when I see it, if your OBs told you something better tell me!

To the PP, yes when shit hits the fan I guess you’re right I wouldn’t refuse that treatment because it’s inevitable, but getting covid is …avoidable? Or at least in my mind and my current situation.

Getting covid is avoidable until it isn't, and by then, it's too late..

The OBs and the MFMs are telling you to get vaccinated. What do you think you know that they don't know?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how any pregnant woman can read the above and not walk to the closest Walgreens and get a shot immediately. Imagine leaving your child an orphan because you thought you knew better than literally every scientific expert out there.

OP here but do you get that every scientific expert I’ve asked aka the docs in my OB practice and I guess I’ll ask my MFM have just said we don’t know what long term effects are but look at these great short term effects. So, no, no one has offered me any assurances as in “you’re fine” like you all have said about the nipt and 20 week ultrasound that the organs are formed, the vaccine components won’t affect organ development further down or have any implication for any neurological or other issues for baby that will grow up. I know “artful” doging when I see it, if your OBs told you something better tell me!

To the PP, yes when shit hits the fan I guess you’re right I wouldn’t refuse that treatment because it’s inevitable, but getting covid is …avoidable? Or at least in my mind and my current situation.

They can't promise you anything. They can't promise you'll live through delivery. You want them to assure you about the "long-term effects" of a vaccine that is 15 months old, which is categorically impossible. Then you are reacting like the fact they cannot deliver on your demand is a sign they're hiding something malicious. They're not magicians, and they're not liars.

But we do know that Covid can kill you, can kill your baby, that pregnant women are at a higher risk, the currently-circulating variant is extremely transmissible and sweeping the country like wildfire, and vaccination is incredibly effective. Those are the facts that are available. You are choosing to catastrophize about something that there is absolutely no reason to believe will happen other than "nobody can guarantee me something it's impossible to guarantee" while ignoring the very real emergency in front of your face. RISK. MISPERCEPTION.

Anonymous wrote:I don't know how any pregnant woman can read the above and not walk to the closest Walgreens and get a shot immediately. Imagine leaving your child an orphan because you thought you knew better than literally every scientific expert out there.

OP here but do you get that every scientific expert I’ve asked aka the docs in my OB practice and I guess I’ll ask my MFM have just said we don’t know what long term effects are but look at these great short term effects. So, no, no one has offered me any assurances as in “you’re fine” like you all have said about the nipt and 20 week ultrasound that the organs are formed, the vaccine components won’t affect organ development further down or have any implication for any neurological or other issues for baby that will grow up. I know “artful” doging when I see it, if your OBs told you something better tell me!

To the PP, yes when shit hits the fan I guess you’re right I wouldn’t refuse that treatment because it’s inevitable, but getting covid is …avoidable? Or at least in my mind and my current situation.

I don't know how any pregnant woman can read the above and not walk to the closest Walgreens and get a shot immediately. Imagine leaving your child an orphan because you thought you knew better than literally every scientific expert out there.

Anonymous wrote:Don't be this woman OP.


https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-new-mom-kristen-Mcmullen-during-covid-fight

She died last week

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/13/florida-mother-covid/

"Some doctors are also warning of an uptick of severe cases among pregnant women — a group with a low vaccination rate that has also been found to be subject to a high risk for complications related to the virus...

Elation morphed into fear only three weeks before her due date. McMullen began displaying covid-19 symptoms, which turned into a coronavirus-related pneumonia that hospitalized her July 21, Syverson said. Even with antibiotic treatment, her health did not seem to improve.

Five days later, her aunt said, doctors decided to have an emergency Caesarean section to deliver the baby.

Despite worsening respiratory problems, McMullen had a brief and tender moment with Summer — posing for some pictures before she was wheeled into the ICU. The next time McMullen was able to see her daughter, it was through a cellphone screen...

Medical workers across the country are increasingly admitting pregnant women with covid-19 into the hospital, according to researchers. A thousand miles away in Dallas, Emily Adhikari — a maternal-fetal medicine specialist at UT Southwestern Medical Center — said she has witnessed an uptick in expectant mothers seeking urgent care for covid-related respiratory distress.

“What we want to focus on is delivering babies safely and helping parents start a new family,” she said. “And instead, we are caring for very, very sick pregnant women.”

The much more contagious and rapidly spreading delta variant, combined with the significant risk of complications covid-19 poses for pregnant women, is one of the main factors driving the surge in obstetric cases, Adhikari said.

“As the rest of society has higher and higher rates of vaccination, the pregnant population has lagged,” she said. “So they are exposed to more virus and they are not immune at all. And so that’s the consequence of what we’re seeing right now.”

Misinformation regarding the vaccine’s effects on pregnancy and fertility has spurred hesitancy since the shots first became available. Yet the CDC updated its recommendation Wednesday, encouraging that pregnant women be inoculated after it found no increased risk of miscarriage.

The agency found that women with a baby on the way had a higher risk of ICU admission, mechanical ventilation and death compared with nonpregnant women. It is exactly these patients developing the virus’s most severe symptoms who seemingly had a higher possibility of experiencing adverse pregnancy risks — including premature births, emergency C-sections and stillbirths — Adhikari’s research suggested.

While scientists are still learning about the immune response to covid-19, pregnant women’s lower respiratory reserve — a natural product of carrying a baby — makes them more susceptible to developing respiratory complications or failure during their third trimester, Adhikari said."

Food for thought?
Will you take the vaccine postpartum?
-yes, because it will protect me and the baby will get antibodies. If yes, do it now because the baby will get more in-utero.

If you contract COVID and require monoclonal
Antibodies to keep you alive, will you?
Using your current logic, the answer is no. However, we all know that is not what would actually happen. If you get sick from COVID, the baby is not the priority. You are the priority. You will take essentially anything the doctors recommend from steroids to MAB therapy to ecmo.

Don’t be a statistic…just do it
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Anonymous wrote:My doctor put me on weekly prophylactic Hydroxychloroquine and I take 5000 iu vitamin D daily. We also are mostly at home and not in high risk environments. N95 masks (the good ones) are available on Amazon for when I am at the doctor’s office, although they aren’t super easy to breathe in.

Good luck with your decision either way. It isn’t easy!

If you get sick, please seek early treatment. Many hospitals are providing palliative care only (!)

I don’t believe this, but if true please get a second opinion from an MD.

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Anonymous wrote:Also you may want to find a good therapist. It’s common for moms whose babies end up in the NICU to blame themselves even when there is no way they could have prevented it. In your case, we’ll, it would be your fault so you’ll need even more help dealing with feelings of guilt and remorse.

OP here my first born had to have antibiotics and was in NICU a few days because of an infection we both had. I blame myself and I’m still dealing with those feeling of remorse and what I could have done differently at the end of the pregnancy. As you’ll see many studies have since come out that neonatal antibiotics use have all kind of issues including diminished growth and severe allergies which my son is dealing with still.

I’d deal with more feeling of remorse if I got the vaccine and my second was born with irreversible heart defect or kidney defect or possibly something else. Hence me trying to figure out an alternative path that protects him.

Are you a troll?

OP here I wish I was then I would be dealing with anxiety and constantly thinking “what if” I emailed my OB in DC as well from my first pregnancy to ask her about the long term implications. I’m sharing some of the updates with my husband too.

And to the other poster, no way am I taking a high dose of vitamin D or the hydro drug, I really am serious about controlling what I can during pregnancy. I am surprised that the posters that got vaccinated were more stressed about this decision. How is it to have a clear head and make a decision and move on? You never wondered something could go horribly wrong?

Being anxious is understandable. But the particular things you are worried about - heart and kidney defects - are not only not happening, they're implausible at your stage of pregnancy based on fetal development. Meanwhile the things that can happen to you because of Covid (miscarriage, death, premature delivery, your baby getting Covid and/or dying) do not appear to be scaring you as much as they should be. This is known as the misperception of risk.

I would listen to your doctor and the college of OBGYNs, not uneducated fear.

But if you’re looking for stories, a runner I peripherally know was unvaccinated, had full term twins, the contracted COVID in the first 48 hours at the hospital from either her or someone who came into the room and now both twins are in ICU and she is very sick as well.

Anonymous wrote:My doctor put me on weekly prophylactic Hydroxychloroquine and I take 5000 iu vitamin D daily. We also are mostly at home and not in high risk environments. N95 masks (the good ones) are available on Amazon for when I am at the doctor’s office, although they aren’t super easy to breathe in.

Good luck with your decision either way. It isn’t easy!

If you get sick, please seek early treatment. Many hospitals are providing palliative care only (!)

Anonymous wrote:My doctor put me on weekly prophylactic Hydroxychloroquine and I take 5000 iu vitamin D daily. We also are mostly at home and not in high risk environments. N95 masks (the good ones) are available on Amazon for when I am at the doctor’s office, although they aren’t super easy to breathe in.

Good luck with your decision either way. It isn’t easy!

If you get sick, please seek early treatment. Many hospitals are providing palliative care only (!)

Are you pregnant? I have a hard time believing an OB would put a pregnant patient on hydroxychloroquine as a preemptive move against COVID. IIRC, there are studies suggesting HCQ can be harmful to the fetus.