Anonymous wrote:I thought I agreed that I didn't like the dancing. But then I watched men's floor this morning and it so awkward. They look like kids asking their parents to watch a trick.

I don't know what the solution is!

I agree. The men's floor routines seem awkward. I miss the music.

I thought I agreed that I didn't like the dancing. But then I watched men's floor this morning and it so awkward. They look like kids asking their parents to watch a trick.

I don't know what the solution is!

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Anonymous wrote:I also think this is throwback and is related to outdated thinking that women must be graceful, not powerful.

Do away with thee dance moves. Let women be strong powerful gymnasts.

+1
I remember seeing a routine with a fake little tantrum on the mat. It was so stupid.
Like a pP said, let them do a little yoga or some calming stretches. We get that they need the breather; the breather is going to be all muscle memory stuff, and watching them do a stretch will still be pretty darn fascinating to the audience who will probably pull a hamstring trying to get up off the couch.

What’s the point of having a routine at all if this is what people want to see? Just have them all do the exact same skills and see who does it better.

I won’t watch it because I prefer the old school style of gymnastics, but apparently the type of stuff that appeals to girlie girls like me is stupid.

You can always watch cheer or dance competitions if that’s what you’re looking for. But I imagine you find those sexist and demeaning ironically.

I genuinely enjoy cheer competitions. It’s an awesome display of feminine athleticism.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also think this is throwback and is related to outdated thinking that women must be graceful, not powerful.

Do away with thee dance moves. Let women be strong powerful gymnasts.

+1
I remember seeing a routine with a fake little tantrum on the mat. It was so stupid.
Like a pP said, let them do a little yoga or some calming stretches. We get that they need the breather; the breather is going to be all muscle memory stuff, and watching them do a stretch will still be pretty darn fascinating to the audience who will probably pull a hamstring trying to get up off the couch.

What’s the point of having a routine at all if this is what people want to see? Just have them all do the exact same skills and see who does it better.

I won’t watch it because I prefer the old school style of gymnastics, but apparently the type of stuff that appeals to girlie girls like me is stupid.

I completely agree with you. Have a set of skills (with set transitions) and have each gymnast do it. Seems like it would be easier to score. Routines have become robotic with little variation from gymnast to gymnast. It is no fun to watch anymore.

Figure skating and synchro swimming used to have figures ie set moves. In synchro we wore white caps and black suits because they wanted us to look as identical as possible so judges could focus on the execution of the skill and not be swayed by music, costumes, sequins etc. The figures were pretty boring to watch and could be difficult to do but counted for half the score.

I think both sports did away with figures.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also think this is throwback and is related to outdated thinking that women must be graceful, not powerful.

Do away with thee dance moves. Let women be strong powerful gymnasts.

+1
I remember seeing a routine with a fake little tantrum on the mat. It was so stupid.
Like a pP said, let them do a little yoga or some calming stretches. We get that they need the breather; the breather is going to be all muscle memory stuff, and watching them do a stretch will still be pretty darn fascinating to the audience who will probably pull a hamstring trying to get up off the couch.

What’s the point of having a routine at all if this is what people want to see? Just have them all do the exact same skills and see who does it better.

I won’t watch it because I prefer the old school style of gymnastics, but apparently the type of stuff that appeals to girlie girls like me is stupid.

I completely agree with you. Have a set of skills (with set transitions) and have each gymnast do it. Seems like it would be easier to score. Routines have become robotic with little variation from gymnast to gymnast. It is no fun to watch anymore.

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Today’s gymnasts do in fact incorporate grace and polish, it just looks different on a healthy, muscular 22 year old compared to a waif-like 80lb 15 year old.

I'm going to disagree with you. Look at Manila Esposito. She's hardly a waif, yet she manages to have straight legs, balletic lines, and what is most important to me, beautiful feet.

I think Simone's skills are impressive but I just can't be a huge fan of hers with her consistently flexed feet and everted ankles.

+1. There are still (a few) women who are more muscular that can also dance. I think gymnastics (floor and beam) have basically become unwatchable.

Throwback misogyny. Could you imagine the men doing this!

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Today’s gymnasts do in fact incorporate grace and polish, it just looks different on a healthy, muscular 22 year old compared to a waif-like 80lb 15 year old.

I'm going to disagree with you. Look at Manila Esposito. She's hardly a waif, yet she manages to have straight legs, balletic lines, and what is most important to me, beautiful feet.

I think Simone's skills are impressive but I just can't be a huge fan of hers with her consistently flexed feet and everted ankles.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also think this is throwback and is related to outdated thinking that women must be graceful, not powerful.

Do away with thee dance moves. Let women be strong powerful gymnasts.

+1
I remember seeing a routine with a fake little tantrum on the mat. It was so stupid.
Like a pP said, let them do a little yoga or some calming stretches. We get that they need the breather; the breather is going to be all muscle memory stuff, and watching them do a stretch will still be pretty darn fascinating to the audience who will probably pull a hamstring trying to get up off the couch.

What’s the point of having a routine at all if this is what people want to see? Just have them all do the exact same skills and see who does it better.

I won’t watch it because I prefer the old school style of gymnastics, but apparently the type of stuff that appeals to girlie girls like me is stupid.

I agree with you.

The worse thing is that spinning skill (wolf turn) they do on the floor where they fall over at the end and pretend to make the fall look like part of the routine. The beam is just a series of wibble wobbles because you earn more points for a hard skill with a wobble that a well done simpler skill.

Anonymous wrote:This is hilarious 😆

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PCWWhusOeU

Hilarious! He would have won in 1950!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also think this is throwback and is related to outdated thinking that women must be graceful, not powerful.

Do away with thee dance moves. Let women be strong powerful gymnasts.

+1
I remember seeing a routine with a fake little tantrum on the mat. It was so stupid.
Like a pP said, let them do a little yoga or some calming stretches. We get that they need the breather; the breather is going to be all muscle memory stuff, and watching them do a stretch will still be pretty darn fascinating to the audience who will probably pull a hamstring trying to get up off the couch.

What’s the point of having a routine at all if this is what people want to see? Just have them all do the exact same skills and see who does it better.

I won’t watch it because I prefer the old school style of gymnastics, but apparently the type of stuff that appeals to girlie girls like me is stupid.

You can always watch cheer or dance competitions if that’s what you’re looking for. But I imagine you find those sexist and demeaning ironically.

This is hilarious 😆

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PCWWhusOeU