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Anonymous wrote:This sounds like the same tired tune of the last five or so years. Just like all that other stuff, it'll turn out to be nothing and the hype will be forgotten.

Yep. Also amazing that The Guardian is the "source" here - the same Guardian that is routinely derided by DCUM liberals as a tabloid rag whenever it's cited as a source by a conservative.

Still waiting on those "pee pee tapes" to materialize. But I do love the continued effort to keep Russia as a talking point.

I think you’re confusing the Guardian with another outlet, perhaps the Daily Mail?

And no one is going to see the kompromat (which is seriously unlikely to be anything as mild as golden showers. Donald Trump is a rapist and he has mentioned, on television, his interest in certain women. That’s far more likely to be the sexual component of the kompromat). You all keep seizing on the kompromat like it’s the most important dimension of this, but I think you’re aware that the most important dimension of this is that Trump was selected and put into office with the assistance of Russia. I don’t know if you can remember back to the dark ages of the 1980s and before, but we had some pretty tense times with Russia and to most of us it’s deeply unthinkable that they would have selected one of our presidents, and all for spite.

Anonymous wrote:This sounds like the same tired tune of the last five or so years. Just like all that other stuff, it'll turn out to be nothing and the hype will be forgotten.

Yep. Also amazing that The Guardian is the "source" here - the same Guardian that is routinely derided by DCUM liberals as a tabloid rag whenever it's cited as a source by a conservative.

Still waiting on those "pee pee tapes" to materialize. But I do love the continued effort to keep Russia as a talking point.

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds like the same tired tune of the last five or so years. Just like all that other stuff, it'll turn out to be nothing and the hype will be forgotten.

It’s not easy to finding out you’ve been had. Kind of like a girl giving it up after a guy says he loves her, only to be dumped. My condolences.

I never voted for Trump.

I also never bought into these silly ‘bombshells’ about Trump being a Putin plant.

It turns out there’s more than one way to be wrong.

It’s been amply proven that the GOP was working with Putin. No one can help you if you have your head in the sand.

+1 Michael Flynn says.. hello.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/12/michael-flynns-russia-timeline/

And Manafort says hello, too.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-paul-manafort-russia-campaigns-konstantin-kilimnik-d2fdefdb37077e28eba135e21fce6ebf

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds like the same tired tune of the last five or so years. Just like all that other stuff, it'll turn out to be nothing and the hype will be forgotten.

It’s not easy to finding out you’ve been had. Kind of like a girl giving it up after a guy says he loves her, only to be dumped. My condolences.

I never voted for Trump.

I also never bought into these silly ‘bombshells’ about Trump being a Putin plant.

It turns out there’s more than one way to be wrong.

It’s been amply proven that the GOP was working with Putin. No one can help you if you have your head in the sand.

+1 Michael Flynn says.. hello.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/12/michael-flynns-russia-timeline/

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry I just don’t believe it.

I agree that Trump was the best way for Russia to destabilize the US. I also am convinced (by the evidence) that Russia interfered in our elections on behalf of team Trump. No question about any of that.

But this memo? It’s too pat. Too much what a liberal (like me) would assume to exist.

It’s a good fake. But it’s a fake.

Prove it then.

That’s not how this works. The memo has to be verified. I don’t have to prove that it’s fake.

I am a research scientist. Any time I see results that are exactly what I hoped for, I double and triple check my assumptions and experiment design so I didn’t create the answer I wanted. This feels fake to me and I will need it be validated thoroughly before I believe it.

What's so confusing? What's so invalid about it?
We already knew the Russians were conducting influence operations to help Trump in the 2016 election. Senate Intelligence Committee report. Mueller report (Internet Research Agency and FSB indictments). That's all been established. We knew Russia did this.

We just never, until now, had proof of a direct link of all of this back to Putin himself, nor deeper insights into the motives.

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds like the same tired tune of the last five or so years. Just like all that other stuff, it'll turn out to be nothing and the hype will be forgotten.

It’s not easy to finding out you’ve been had. Kind of like a girl giving it up after a guy says he loves her, only to be dumped. My condolences.

I never voted for Trump.

I also never bought into these silly ‘bombshells’ about Trump being a Putin plant.

It turns out there’s more than one way to be wrong.

It’s been amply proven that the GOP was working with Putin. No one can help you if you have your head in the sand.

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds like the same tired tune of the last five or so years. Just like all that other stuff, it'll turn out to be nothing and the hype will be forgotten.

It’s not easy to finding out you’ve been had. Kind of like a girl giving it up after a guy says he loves her, only to be dumped. My condolences.

I never voted for Trump.

I also never bought into these silly ‘bombshells’ about Trump being a Putin plant.

It turns out there’s more than one way to be wrong.

Anonymous wrote:Amazing how well they understood the US public and the potential to exploit the pent up frustration of right wingers. Also how accurately they profiled Trump and made use of his mental instability. Major coup for them. Trump was manna from Heaven for them, particularly considering how weak they are. I’m wondering why there is zero mention in the post and times so far. Maybe still digesting it.

Probably getting corroboration.

It’s something that legit news outlets do but places like Fox do not.

Anonymous wrote:This sounds like the same tired tune of the last five or so years. Just like all that other stuff, it'll turn out to be nothing and the hype will be forgotten.

It’s not easy to finding out you’ve been had. Kind of like a girl giving it up after a guy says he loves her, only to be dumped. My condolences.

Amazing how well they understood the US public and the potential to exploit the pent up frustration of right wingers. Also how accurately they profiled Trump and made use of his mental instability. Major coup for them. Trump was manna from Heaven for them, particularly considering how weak they are. I’m wondering why there is zero mention in the post and times so far. Maybe still digesting it.

This sounds like the same tired tune of the last five or so years. Just like all that other stuff, it'll turn out to be nothing and the hype will be forgotten.

Assume Trump can no longer pay, and Putin needs new partners. Probably sending the message he is not welcome to flee to Russia at this point.

Anonymous wrote:Sorry I just don’t believe it.

I agree that Trump was the best way for Russia to destabilize the US. I also am convinced (by the evidence) that Russia interfered in our elections on behalf of team Trump. No question about any of that.

But this memo? It’s too pat. Too much what a liberal (like me) would assume to exist.

It’s a good fake. But it’s a fake.

Fake what? What do you mean? Russia leaked fake docs to make Trump look bad? Or someone else leaked fake docs to make Putin and Trump look bad? Or...?

Perhaps the writing is in the wall that Trump Org has no money and is in legal deep sh*t, which means they can’t payback their Russian backers. Perhaps the oligarchs want their $2?

Putin is throwing Trump to the dogs. Trump is adrift in a shark-infested sea now. Putin must have other plans with other stooges now. That’s my guess.