Anonymous
06/08/2021 10:54
Subject: Re:I don't want to organize a team gift for my son's coach
Anonymous wrote:If you dont want to tip or give a gift. The very least you should do is a hand written thank you note. That shows class a touch of personalization. This was your kids coach and spent hours each week over months playing a part in their life.
They get paid a salary. Gift should only be a nominal option, certainly not an expectation.
Comparing a waiter's tip (which is more or less expected depending on service) is NOT the same.
I'm sure the job description for the coach did not say he/she makes X amount, + tips.
Anonymous
06/08/2021 07:46
Subject: I don't want to organize a team gift for my son's coach
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My husband has done the crappy job of team manager for years (wish someone else would!) and it never occurred to him to do a gift. I’ve never heard of it for paid coaches.
But if you’ve done it in past years and people are expecting it, I think it’s polite to send an email just saying you can’t coordinate anything this year but if anyone else wants to, they should feel free. I wouldn’t mention individual gifts because then people might think that’s expected.
Ding! Ding! Ding! When a man is the team manager, no team gift. Why do women create more work for themselves?
Because women by nature are nurtures, they want to take care of people. Constantly thinking of others is in their DNA. Kindness is a virtue and making someone feel important will never be wrong. It’s amazing how self absorbed people have become.
Women do it because they don’t want to look bad if they don’t. It’s not because they care, they are just more image conscious. Paid coaches don’t deserve a gift. That does not mean you can’t get them one anyhow, but it is neither deserved nor expected, unless the coach went above and beyond the normal job such as: helping carpool kids; working outside normal practice time to help kids that needed it / wanted it; finding opportunities for kids outside of normal team events. Etc. If they show up to practices and games on time and coach as expected, then no gift cards required.
Do you tip your waiter? Barber? give kids teacher gifts? taxi driver? bellman at hotel? valet? The coaches is providing an educational experience that your kid will take life long lessons from good and bad. If you played any competitive level sports growing up or thru HS or college you should understand the importance coaches played in your life. Not only do they try to teach your kid soccer but also teamwork learning to deal with and make decisions under pressure. deal with adversity how to learn from wins and losses. Its up to your child whether or not they take advantage of the lessons available just like in school its up to them. How well they are parented will decide how they approach learning opportunities. Be grateful of the life learning experience you kid is exposed to and give the gift idiot.
You’re equating a coach to a barber and a server and a bellman and a taxi driver. Ha! You’re a moron ... oh now wait ... you must be a coach. Here’s a hint, get a real job and maybe you won’t need to beg for an Amazon GC. Loser.
You were bullied in school weren’t you? SMH kindness is never a bad thing. Grow up.
How about the coach give the kids a gift card for trying hard and keeping his/her job?
Anonymous
06/08/2021 07:41
Subject: Re:I don't want to organize a team gift for my son's coach
If you dont want to tip or give a gift. The very least you should do is a hand written thank you note. That shows class a touch of personalization. This was your kids coach and spent hours each week over months playing a part in their life.
Anonymous
06/08/2021 07:00
Subject: I don't want to organize a team gift for my son's coach
Tipping is gross. For all the DCUM obsession with high and low class - this seems to be a massive blind spot.
Just pay people a fair wage for the job that do so they don’t have to pander to your sensibilities to feed themselves/their families.
Tip when clear the business practices are unethical and a living wage depends on it - but prioritize your spending at places where tipping is discouraged because labor costs are already built into the price. Why should workers wages ever be at your whim?
Gifts at end of year for coaches is a form of tipping. Tacky AF
Just pay people a fair wage for the job that do so they don’t have to pander to your sensibilities to feed themselves/their families.
Tip when clear the business practices are unethical and a living wage depends on it - but prioritize your spending at places where tipping is discouraged because labor costs are already built into the price. Why should workers wages ever be at your whim?
Gifts at end of year for coaches is a form of tipping. Tacky AF
Anonymous
06/08/2021 06:09
Subject: I don't want to organize a team gift for my son's coach
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My husband has done the crappy job of team manager for years (wish someone else would!) and it never occurred to him to do a gift. I’ve never heard of it for paid coaches.
But if you’ve done it in past years and people are expecting it, I think it’s polite to send an email just saying you can’t coordinate anything this year but if anyone else wants to, they should feel free. I wouldn’t mention individual gifts because then people might think that’s expected.
Ding! Ding! Ding! When a man is the team manager, no team gift. Why do women create more work for themselves?
Because women by nature are nurtures, they want to take care of people. Constantly thinking of others is in their DNA. Kindness is a virtue and making someone feel important will never be wrong. It’s amazing how self absorbed people have become.
Women do it because they don’t want to look bad if they don’t. It’s not because they care, they are just more image conscious. Paid coaches don’t deserve a gift. That does not mean you can’t get them one anyhow, but it is neither deserved nor expected, unless the coach went above and beyond the normal job such as: helping carpool kids; working outside normal practice time to help kids that needed it / wanted it; finding opportunities for kids outside of normal team events. Etc. If they show up to practices and games on time and coach as expected, then no gift cards required.
Do you tip your waiter? Barber? give kids teacher gifts? taxi driver? bellman at hotel? valet? The coaches is providing an educational experience that your kid will take life long lessons from good and bad. If you played any competitive level sports growing up or thru HS or college you should understand the importance coaches played in your life. Not only do they try to teach your kid soccer but also teamwork learning to deal with and make decisions under pressure. deal with adversity how to learn from wins and losses. Its up to your child whether or not they take advantage of the lessons available just like in school its up to them. How well they are parented will decide how they approach learning opportunities. Be grateful of the life learning experience you kid is exposed to and give the gift idiot.
You’re equating a coach to a barber and a server and a bellman and a taxi driver. Ha! You’re a moron ... oh now wait ... you must be a coach. Here’s a hint, get a real job and maybe you won’t need to beg for an Amazon GC. Loser.
You were bullied in school weren’t you? SMH kindness is never a bad thing. Grow up.
Anonymous
06/08/2021 00:02
Subject: I don't want to organize a team gift for my son's coach
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My husband has done the crappy job of team manager for years (wish someone else would!) and it never occurred to him to do a gift. I’ve never heard of it for paid coaches.
But if you’ve done it in past years and people are expecting it, I think it’s polite to send an email just saying you can’t coordinate anything this year but if anyone else wants to, they should feel free. I wouldn’t mention individual gifts because then people might think that’s expected.
Ding! Ding! Ding! When a man is the team manager, no team gift. Why do women create more work for themselves?
Because women by nature are nurtures, they want to take care of people. Constantly thinking of others is in their DNA. Kindness is a virtue and making someone feel important will never be wrong. It’s amazing how self absorbed people have become.
Women do it because they don’t want to look bad if they don’t. It’s not because they care, they are just more image conscious. Paid coaches don’t deserve a gift. That does not mean you can’t get them one anyhow, but it is neither deserved nor expected, unless the coach went above and beyond the normal job such as: helping carpool kids; working outside normal practice time to help kids that needed it / wanted it; finding opportunities for kids outside of normal team events. Etc. If they show up to practices and games on time and coach as expected, then no gift cards required.
Do you tip your waiter? Barber? give kids teacher gifts? taxi driver? bellman at hotel? valet? The coaches is providing an educational experience that your kid will take life long lessons from good and bad. If you played any competitive level sports growing up or thru HS or college you should understand the importance coaches played in your life. Not only do they try to teach your kid soccer but also teamwork learning to deal with and make decisions under pressure. deal with adversity how to learn from wins and losses. Its up to your child whether or not they take advantage of the lessons available just like in school its up to them. How well they are parented will decide how they approach learning opportunities. Be grateful of the life learning experience you kid is exposed to and give the gift idiot.
You’re equating a coach to a barber and a server and a bellman and a taxi driver. Ha! You’re a moron ... oh now wait ... you must be a coach. Here’s a hint, get a real job and maybe you won’t need to beg for an Amazon GC. Loser.
Anonymous
06/07/2021 14:10
Subject: I don't want to organize a team gift for my son's coach
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My husband has done the crappy job of team manager for years (wish someone else would!) and it never occurred to him to do a gift. I’ve never heard of it for paid coaches.
But if you’ve done it in past years and people are expecting it, I think it’s polite to send an email just saying you can’t coordinate anything this year but if anyone else wants to, they should feel free. I wouldn’t mention individual gifts because then people might think that’s expected.
Ding! Ding! Ding! When a man is the team manager, no team gift. Why do women create more work for themselves?
Our team manager is man and he organized the team gift - this isn't a gender thing. And our coach is paid but parents gladly chipped in for a gift because he was excellent. OP I think a gift is optional for a job well done. The incident you described sounds bad, but was it a one-off or out of character? I'd be pissed about but I wouldn't necessarily decide not to organize a a gift if overall I thought the coach had been good throughout the season.
Anonymous
06/07/2021 13:28
Subject: I don't want to organize a team gift for my son's coach
Hmm, I am a coach and did something similar on my team. No yelling, but perhaps the kid felt that way. Not about pain, but other aspects of his play that were deficient.
You yelled criticism at a 10 year old in a parking lot after a game today?
Not in the parking lot, just at the sideline in the 4th quarter. I was telling him he needed to be more attentive to coaches and show more leadership to get more playing time in the future when he was on better teams and no longer the star scorer.
Anonymous
06/07/2021 12:29
Subject: I don't want to organize a team gift for my son's coach
No I would not.
Anonymous
06/07/2021 12:21
Subject: I don't want to organize a team gift for my son's coach
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't bother with the group email. I would just not do it. Why does that fall to you?
Because it’s the team manager’s job.
I am not sure if I think OP should or shouldn’t, I’d need more details, but in general if you want the advantages of being team manager you do the job of team manager.
NO. A Gift is merely an option, but not the rule. As a matter of fact, this sort of stuff should be banned. ALL BS. Coaches get paid for what they do, no need to add a $200 gift card every gosh darn season. enough already!
Funny how the elite older teams don't even entertain this madness concept. This gift idea appears to be implanted at a very young age, with rec type teams that simmers to the u9-u11 ish teams... any serious team thereafter is an exception. Although girl teams tend to phase this behavior out at u13ish.
Anonymous
06/07/2021 12:21
Subject: I don't want to organize a team gift for my son's coach
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't bother with the group email. I would just not do it. Why does that fall to you?
Because it’s the team manager’s job.
I am not sure if I think OP should or shouldn’t, I’d need more details, but in general if you want the advantages of being team manager you do the job of team manager.
NO. A Gift is merely an option, but not the rule. As a matter of fact, this sort of stuff should be banned. ALL BS. Coaches get paid for what they do, no need to add a $200 gift card every gosh darn season. enough already!
Yeah so are waiters , barbers, for that matter your church. but people gift them money. Why do some of you find it so hard to gift to someone who is a part of your Childs development as an athlete and a person.
Anonymous
06/07/2021 12:16
Subject: I don't want to organize a team gift for my son's coach
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't bother with the group email. I would just not do it. Why does that fall to you?
Because it’s the team manager’s job.
I am not sure if I think OP should or shouldn’t, I’d need more details, but in general if you want the advantages of being team manager you do the job of team manager.
NO. A Gift is merely an option, but not the rule. As a matter of fact, this sort of stuff should be banned. ALL BS. Coaches get paid for what they do, no need to add a $200 gift card every gosh darn season. enough already!