Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah. I’d skip it. Summers on the warm soft east coast sand beaches, with their people sitting under umbrellas enjoying a sea breeze and reading books got nothing on a rocky west cost beach with its waves crashing on large rocks. And the numerous food places, games, rides, and bars and restaurants are nothing like the pristine desolation of coastal Olympic peninsula.
Right, a crowded boardwalk with fried food and bars is MUCH better than the Olympic peninsula.
OP, I’m with you. I grew up in California and find the East Coast beach vacation to be excruciating. The beaches are ugly and crowded here, and beach towns are expensive and over developed. And I even grew up near a California beach town where it is warm enough to sit on a towel for a while (Avila Beach.)
Oh yeah, because the beaches are so empty and stunning in California. That's if you like heroin needles and the smell of urine from the local homeless encampment. No wonder people travel from all over the world to go to...... Avila Beach....
Well Avila is more crowded than when I grew up - but that’s mostly local travel. The fact that it’s not a big tourist destination is a feature, not a bug. I think that’s what the DC posters don’t quite get - the difference between being surrounded by thousands of opportunities for gorgeous and stunning outdoor recreation, and the incredibly limited roster here (OBX or Bethany or climb a hill that they call a mountain!)
Um, there's plenty of outdoor opportunities on the east coast. I cant even believe the bizarre fiction that there aren't. Like... it literally makes no sense. West coast beaches you can't even get in the water without a full wetsuit yet OUR beach activities are limited? LOL. Make it make sense! The delusion...
yeah, you don’t get it. it’s not only about opportunities (there are more many places in the west) but also culture. DC just is not the same as Denver in that regard.
Yeah, thank God for that. What- you're mad no one wants to kite board with you? Well I hated living on the west coast and having to interact with grown men in khaki short cutoffs and Oakley sunglasses who had never read the New York Times in their lives. Different cultures for different places. I'll take the intellectualism of the east coast over the "yeah, brah! We totally mountain biked off the cliff!" attitude I saw on the west coast. That's what's great about this country- if you miss home, move back! Go where you'll fit in.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^Do you even know what kudzu is? The fact that you cant appreciate a beautiful walk through the woods is SAD. Never call yourself an outdoor enthusiast again because you're NOT. Also, how many people live right next to Big Sur? most east coasters are a 20 minute drive from a wooded path, but you have to drive hours along the PCH to get to Big Sur.
I like the woods OK. But you’re deluding yourself if you think that’s the same as hiking out west. Where there are also woods btw, but they are majestic redwoods or ancient live oaks, not junk-tree glades by the highway.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah. I’d skip it. Summers on the warm soft east coast sand beaches, with their people sitting under umbrellas enjoying a sea breeze and reading books got nothing on a rocky west cost beach with its waves crashing on large rocks. And the numerous food places, games, rides, and bars and restaurants are nothing like the pristine desolation of coastal Olympic peninsula.
Right, a crowded boardwalk with fried food and bars is MUCH better than the Olympic peninsula.
OP, I’m with you. I grew up in California and find the East Coast beach vacation to be excruciating. The beaches are ugly and crowded here, and beach towns are expensive and over developed. And I even grew up near a California beach town where it is warm enough to sit on a towel for a while (Avila Beach.)
Oh yeah, because the beaches are so empty and stunning in California. That's if you like heroin needles and the smell of urine from the local homeless encampment. No wonder people travel from all over the world to go to...... Avila Beach....
Well Avila is more crowded than when I grew up - but that’s mostly local travel. The fact that it’s not a big tourist destination is a feature, not a bug. I think that’s what the DC posters don’t quite get - the difference between being surrounded by thousands of opportunities for gorgeous and stunning outdoor recreation, and the incredibly limited roster here (OBX or Bethany or climb a hill that they call a mountain!)
Um, there's plenty of outdoor opportunities on the east coast. I cant even believe the bizarre fiction that there aren't. Like... it literally makes no sense. West coast beaches you can't even get in the water without a full wetsuit yet OUR beach activities are limited? LOL. Make it make sense! The delusion...
yeah, you don’t get it. it’s not only about opportunities (there are more many places in the west) but also culture. DC just is not the same as Denver in that regard.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One word to describe west coast beaches: dumpy.
ocean city v olympic peninsula. one is dumpy; the other is ...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah. I’d skip it. Summers on the warm soft east coast sand beaches, with their people sitting under umbrellas enjoying a sea breeze and reading books got nothing on a rocky west cost beach with its waves crashing on large rocks. And the numerous food places, games, rides, and bars and restaurants are nothing like the pristine desolation of coastal Olympic peninsula.
Right, a crowded boardwalk with fried food and bars is MUCH better than the Olympic peninsula.
OP, I’m with you. I grew up in California and find the East Coast beach vacation to be excruciating. The beaches are ugly and crowded here, and beach towns are expensive and over developed. And I even grew up near a California beach town where it is warm enough to sit on a towel for a while (Avila Beach.)
Oh yeah, because the beaches are so empty and stunning in California. That's if you like heroin needles and the smell of urine from the local homeless encampment. No wonder people travel from all over the world to go to...... Avila Beach....
Well Avila is more crowded than when I grew up - but that’s mostly local travel. The fact that it’s not a big tourist destination is a feature, not a bug. I think that’s what the DC posters don’t quite get - the difference between being surrounded by thousands of opportunities for gorgeous and stunning outdoor recreation, and the incredibly limited roster here (OBX or Bethany or climb a hill that they call a mountain!)
Um, there's plenty of outdoor opportunities on the east coast. I cant even believe the bizarre fiction that there aren't. Like... it literally makes no sense. West coast beaches you can't even get in the water without a full wetsuit yet OUR beach activities are limited? LOL. Make it make sense! The delusion...
yeah, you don’t get it. it’s not only about opportunities (there are more many places in the west) but also culture. DC just is not the same as Denver in that regard.
Anonymous wrote:^^Do you even know what kudzu is? The fact that you cant appreciate a beautiful walk through the woods is SAD. Never call yourself an outdoor enthusiast again because you're NOT. Also, how many people live right next to Big Sur? most east coasters are a 20 minute drive from a wooded path, but you have to drive hours along the PCH to get to Big Sur.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah. I’d skip it. Summers on the warm soft east coast sand beaches, with their people sitting under umbrellas enjoying a sea breeze and reading books got nothing on a rocky west cost beach with its waves crashing on large rocks. And the numerous food places, games, rides, and bars and restaurants are nothing like the pristine desolation of coastal Olympic peninsula.
Right, a crowded boardwalk with fried food and bars is MUCH better than the Olympic peninsula.
OP, I’m with you. I grew up in California and find the East Coast beach vacation to be excruciating. The beaches are ugly and crowded here, and beach towns are expensive and over developed. And I even grew up near a California beach town where it is warm enough to sit on a towel for a while (Avila Beach.)
Oh yeah, because the beaches are so empty and stunning in California. That's if you like heroin needles and the smell of urine from the local homeless encampment. No wonder people travel from all over the world to go to...... Avila Beach....
Well Avila is more crowded than when I grew up - but that’s mostly local travel. The fact that it’s not a big tourist destination is a feature, not a bug. I think that’s what the DC posters don’t quite get - the difference between being surrounded by thousands of opportunities for gorgeous and stunning outdoor recreation, and the incredibly limited roster here (OBX or Bethany or climb a hill that they call a mountain!)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah. I’d skip it. Summers on the warm soft east coast sand beaches, with their people sitting under umbrellas enjoying a sea breeze and reading books got nothing on a rocky west cost beach with its waves crashing on large rocks. And the numerous food places, games, rides, and bars and restaurants are nothing like the pristine desolation of coastal Olympic peninsula.
Right, a crowded boardwalk with fried food and bars is MUCH better than the Olympic peninsula.
OP, I’m with you. I grew up in California and find the East Coast beach vacation to be excruciating. The beaches are ugly and crowded here, and beach towns are expensive and over developed. And I even grew up near a California beach town where it is warm enough to sit on a towel for a while (Avila Beach.)
Oh yeah, because the beaches are so empty and stunning in California. That's if you like heroin needles and the smell of urine from the local homeless encampment. No wonder people travel from all over the world to go to...... Avila Beach....
Well Avila is more crowded than when I grew up - but that’s mostly local travel. The fact that it’s not a big tourist destination is a feature, not a bug. I think that’s what the DC posters don’t quite get - the difference between being surrounded by thousands of opportunities for gorgeous and stunning outdoor recreation, and the incredibly limited roster here (OBX or Bethany or climb a hill that they call a mountain!)
Um, there's plenty of outdoor opportunities on the east coast. I cant even believe the bizarre fiction that there aren't. Like... it literally makes no sense. West coast beaches you can't even get in the water without a full wetsuit yet OUR beach activities are limited? LOL. Make it make sense! The delusion...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.oregonlive.com/travel/2020/05/crowds-return-to-cannon-beach-as-oregon-coast-town-begins-to-reopen.html%3foutputType=amp
“Crowds return to Cannon Beach.” Lol.
That’s not a crowd.
um, are you under the impression that crowded beaches are an amenity?
Generally, most beautiful places have lots of people who want to go. You're gonna find a hell of a lot more people lined up to go to the Louvre than to the Indiana string Bean Hall of Fame or whatever
lol I’ve seen the popular E Coast beaches. They aren’t beautiful - they’re just the only thing you know.
anyway I understand what OP is getting at in terms of activities. Out west (and I’m including places like Colorado and New Mexico) outdoor activities are just much more a part of life and culture than they are in the DC area. Before anyone whined about how they “love hiking,” let me tell you it’s just very different out there.
But when you focus on that adrenaline spike you miss out on appreciating the natural beauty. I've hiked both places, and much prefer the east coast, because I find it much more beautiful and peaceful. I dont need to be climbing uphill for two hours to finally get to some peak and look out over a mostly brown landscape to get excited. I'd much rather stroll down a treelined, flat trail where my adrenaline isnt going a million miles an hour but it's gorgeous and soul-fulfilling.
West coast adrenaline obsessives seem to miss so much with their mentality. And look stupid when they need the very basics of the human experience explained to them as a result
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah. I’d skip it. Summers on the warm soft east coast sand beaches, with their people sitting under umbrellas enjoying a sea breeze and reading books got nothing on a rocky west cost beach with its waves crashing on large rocks. And the numerous food places, games, rides, and bars and restaurants are nothing like the pristine desolation of coastal Olympic peninsula.
Right, a crowded boardwalk with fried food and bars is MUCH better than the Olympic peninsula.
OP, I’m with you. I grew up in California and find the East Coast beach vacation to be excruciating. The beaches are ugly and crowded here, and beach towns are expensive and over developed. And I even grew up near a California beach town where it is warm enough to sit on a towel for a while (Avila Beach.)
Oh yeah, because the beaches are so empty and stunning in California. That's if you like heroin needles and the smell of urine from the local homeless encampment. No wonder people travel from all over the world to go to...... Avila Beach....
Well Avila is more crowded than when I grew up - but that’s mostly local travel. The fact that it’s not a big tourist destination is a feature, not a bug. I think that’s what the DC posters don’t quite get - the difference between being surrounded by thousands of opportunities for gorgeous and stunning outdoor recreation, and the incredibly limited roster here (OBX or Bethany or climb a hill that they call a mountain!)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.oregonlive.com/travel/2020/05/crowds-return-to-cannon-beach-as-oregon-coast-town-begins-to-reopen.html%3foutputType=amp
“Crowds return to Cannon Beach.” Lol.
That’s not a crowd.
um, are you under the impression that crowded beaches are an amenity?
Not at all. Thought it was hilarious. And it clearly makes the op’s point that people don’t hang out on the beaches in OR.
You can find less crowded beaches on the east coast. They’re quite lovely. Warm and sunny, too.
Unless you’re going up to Maine, there’s nothing that even comes close to W coast beaches.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah. I’d skip it. Summers on the warm soft east coast sand beaches, with their people sitting under umbrellas enjoying a sea breeze and reading books got nothing on a rocky west cost beach with its waves crashing on large rocks. And the numerous food places, games, rides, and bars and restaurants are nothing like the pristine desolation of coastal Olympic peninsula.
Right, a crowded boardwalk with fried food and bars is MUCH better than the Olympic peninsula.
OP, I’m with you. I grew up in California and find the East Coast beach vacation to be excruciating. The beaches are ugly and crowded here, and beach towns are expensive and over developed. And I even grew up near a California beach town where it is warm enough to sit on a towel for a while (Avila Beach.)
Oh yeah, because the beaches are so empty and stunning in California. That's if you like heroin needles and the smell of urine from the local homeless encampment. No wonder people travel from all over the world to go to...... Avila Beach....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.oregonlive.com/travel/2020/05/crowds-return-to-cannon-beach-as-oregon-coast-town-begins-to-reopen.html%3foutputType=amp
“Crowds return to Cannon Beach.” Lol.
That’s not a crowd.
um, are you under the impression that crowded beaches are an amenity?
Not at all. Thought it was hilarious. And it clearly makes the op’s point that people don’t hang out on the beaches in OR.
You can find less crowded beaches on the east coast. They’re quite lovely. Warm and sunny, too.
Unless you’re going up to Maine, there’s nothing that even comes close to W coast beaches.