Anonymous
05/13/2021 21:02
Subject: Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LITTLE KIDS SHOULD NOT BE WEARING MASKS. This is ridiculous. Show me the data that points to young children being impacted in any way by covid-19, especially now.
40,000 American kids, including little kids, have lost a parent. I think that qualifies as "impacted".
Not anymore. Parent nowadays can get a vaccine. If they choose not to, it’s their choice. I am not subjecting my kid to masks for their benefit.
Kids can get covid. Kids can get long term health issues from COVID. Adults can still get and spread covid with the vaccine. You mask your kid for their own health.
The proportion of kids who get serious COVID or long term issues is tiny. We cannot make public policy or live our life obssessed with COVID. The likelihood of a 2 year old getting hospitalized from covid is same or smaller than the flu for their age group.
Vaccinated folks can get and spread covid - but again, the vaccines eliminate almost all cases of SEVERE disease. We can’t make 2 year olds wear masks so that a 40 year vaccinated person doesn’t feel uncomfortable for a week with mild covid. It is a serious over-reaction and our children deserve a better childhood.
"We" actually can and will. It's not up to you. It doesn't matter if you think it's an overreaction or "our children deserve a better childhood." LOL.
Do you have it out for toddlers or something? Otherwise WTF is funny? There’s nothing remotely funny about this, asshat.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 21:01
Subject: Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.
I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.
PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.
I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.
There’s no county mandate. The in-home daycare our DC attends does not require masks on the kids and has undergone a routine inspection only a couple months ago. If the masks are truly mandated why weren’t they cited?
I’d like to see a link to an actual mandate. Don’t just believe what Elrich says because he has a history of verbally stating restrictions that aren’t legally required.
How did OP’s daycare get in trouble if there’s no mandate or authority? OP’s post- “The daycare had another person complain to the County, they were inspected, and are now required to have all 2 year olds masked.”
I’m wondering if a mask mandate is only required if certain stipulations can’t be met, like room capacity or building ventilation. Maybe the school wasn’t quite meeting all of those guidelines, and thus couldn’t go mask free in accordance with the licensing board.
MoCo is a bit weird (if this is MoCo?) and the regional licensing specialists have been pulled in both directions between the county and the state during the pandemic. The county has tried to exert authority at times that it doesn’t really have, but the threat alone would probably be enough in a case like this. You can get a completely different answer depending who you talk to. Not familiar with how it works in VA.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 20:06
Subject: Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?
I'm all for mask wearing by adults who aren't vaccinated, but making young kids wear masks for sanitation theater is just a joke. We have to have science based policy.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 19:51
Subject: Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LITTLE KIDS SHOULD NOT BE WEARING MASKS. This is ridiculous. Show me the data that points to young children being impacted in any way by covid-19, especially now.
40,000 American kids, including little kids, have lost a parent. I think that qualifies as "impacted".
Not anymore. Parent nowadays can get a vaccine. If they choose not to, it’s their choice. I am not subjecting my kid to masks for their benefit.
Kids can get covid. Kids can get long term health issues from COVID. Adults can still get and spread covid with the vaccine. You mask your kid for their own health.
The proportion of kids who get serious COVID or long term issues is tiny. We cannot make public policy or live our life obssessed with COVID. The likelihood of a 2 year old getting hospitalized from covid is same or smaller than the flu for their age group.
Vaccinated folks can get and spread covid - but again, the vaccines eliminate almost all cases of SEVERE disease. We can’t make 2 year olds wear masks so that a 40 year vaccinated person doesn’t feel uncomfortable for a week with mild covid. It is a serious over-reaction and our children deserve a better childhood.
"We" actually can and will. It's not up to you. It doesn't matter if you think it's an overreaction or "our children deserve a better childhood." LOL.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 19:33
Subject: Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.
I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.
PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.
I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.
There’s no county mandate. The in-home daycare our DC attends does not require masks on the kids and has undergone a routine inspection only a couple months ago. If the masks are truly mandated why weren’t they cited?
I’d like to see a link to an actual mandate. Don’t just believe what Elrich says because he has a history of verbally stating restrictions that aren’t legally required.
How did OP’s daycare get in trouble if there’s no mandate or authority? OP’s post- “The daycare had another person complain to the County, they were inspected, and are now required to have all 2 year olds masked.”
I’m wondering if a mask mandate is only required if certain stipulations can’t be met, like room capacity or building ventilation. Maybe the school wasn’t quite meeting all of those guidelines, and thus couldn’t go mask free in accordance with the licensing board.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 13:39
Subject: Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LITTLE KIDS SHOULD NOT BE WEARING MASKS. This is ridiculous. Show me the data that points to young children being impacted in any way by covid-19, especially now.
40,000 American kids, including little kids, have lost a parent. I think that qualifies as "impacted".
Not anymore. Parent nowadays can get a vaccine. If they choose not to, it’s their choice. I am not subjecting my kid to masks for their benefit.
Kids can get covid. Kids can get long term health issues from COVID. Adults can still get and spread covid with the vaccine. You mask your kid for their own health.
The proportion of kids who get serious COVID or long term issues is tiny. We cannot make public policy or live our life obssessed with COVID. The likelihood of a 2 year old getting hospitalized from covid is same or smaller than the flu for their age group.
Vaccinated folks can get and spread covid - but again, the vaccines eliminate almost all cases of SEVERE disease. We can’t make 2 year olds wear masks so that a 40 year vaccinated person doesn’t feel uncomfortable for a week with mild covid. It is a serious over-reaction and our children deserve a better childhood.
THANK YOU!!!!!!! Well said. Enough of this shit. COVID IS OVER!
Anonymous
05/13/2021 13:23
Subject: Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.
I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.
PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.
I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.
There’s no county mandate. The in-home daycare our DC attends does not require masks on the kids and has undergone a routine inspection only a couple months ago. If the masks are truly mandated why weren’t they cited?
I’d like to see a link to an actual mandate. Don’t just believe what Elrich says because he has a history of verbally stating restrictions that aren’t legally required.
How did OP’s daycare get in trouble if there’s no mandate or authority? OP’s post- “The daycare had another person complain to the County, they were inspected, and are now required to have all 2 year olds masked.”
Did OP actually confirm where the daycare was? Some of this just doesn't add up.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 13:05
Subject: Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.
I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.
PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.
I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.
There’s no county mandate. The in-home daycare our DC attends does not require masks on the kids and has undergone a routine inspection only a couple months ago. If the masks are truly mandated why weren’t they cited?
I’d like to see a link to an actual mandate. Don’t just believe what Elrich says because he has a history of verbally stating restrictions that aren’t legally required.
How did OP’s daycare get in trouble if there’s no mandate or authority? OP’s post- “The daycare had another person complain to the County, they were inspected, and are now required to have all 2 year olds masked.”
Anonymous
05/13/2021 12:39
Subject: Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?
1. This daycare was OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
You can be angry all you want, OP, but you should have done your due diligence and known someone would alert the authorities and that the daycare would be forced to “require”masks.
2. “Require”: odds are, the daycare will be extremely lax in their enforcement.
3. Given 1 and 2, you’re being stupid.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 12:31
Subject: Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.
I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.
PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.
I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.
There’s no county mandate. The in-home daycare our DC attends does not require masks on the kids and has undergone a routine inspection only a couple months ago. If the masks are truly mandated why weren’t they cited?
I’d like to see a link to an actual mandate. Don’t just believe what Elrich says because he has a history of verbally stating restrictions that aren’t legally required.
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/reopening/requirements/childcare.html
What they don't tell you is that daycares are licensed by the state, not county. The county does not really, truly, have authority. What I don't understand is why parents want to keep up the charade and safety theater?
Well, there are at least some, myself included, who do not. Our daycare center recently sent a survey to parents which included asking for feedback on Covid procedures and I said as much.
But I also appreciate the bind that childcare facilities are in, because they have the CDC, AAP, and county telling them masks are necessary for 2 and up. Even the state of MD, while not mandating them, recommends masks for ages 2-5 if they can be tolerated (so more wiggle room, but it's not like they said kids under 5 shouldn't be wearing them). And then you probably have half the parents who are supportive of masks as well (spitballing here, this is based on parents I've talked to). There have been no Covid cases at all at our center and some parents see this as proof that masks work.
So, while I'm not happy about it, I realize I'm in the minority here. Pulling my kid to get a nanny isn't a great option. For now, relaxing the mask usage outside would be a small victory and a step in the right direction.
I agree with this person. I’m hopeful masks will not be required in moco for 2-5 for much longer and starting with mask breaks outside would be a good start. My 4 year old used to be able to have recess unmasked until moco clamped down. Now she is in a mask for 9 hours except lunch and snack and the mask comes home bitten up and so wet you could ring it out. It’s gross. This is a classic example of the disconnect between theory or lab conditions and real life. In real life masks on young kids are not working for a lot of kids.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 12:19
Subject: Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.
I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.
PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.
I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.
There’s no county mandate. The in-home daycare our DC attends does not require masks on the kids and has undergone a routine inspection only a couple months ago. If the masks are truly mandated why weren’t they cited?
I’d like to see a link to an actual mandate. Don’t just believe what Elrich says because he has a history of verbally stating restrictions that aren’t legally required.
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/reopening/requirements/childcare.html
What they don't tell you is that daycares are licensed by the state, not county. The county does not really, truly, have authority. What I don't understand is why parents want to keep up the charade and safety theater?
Well, there are at least some, myself included, who do not. Our daycare center recently sent a survey to parents which included asking for feedback on Covid procedures and I said as much.
But I also appreciate the bind that childcare facilities are in, because they have the CDC, AAP, and county telling them masks are necessary for 2 and up. Even the state of MD, while not mandating them, recommends masks for ages 2-5 if they can be tolerated (so more wiggle room, but it's not like they said kids under 5 shouldn't be wearing them). And then you probably have half the parents who are supportive of masks as well (spitballing here, this is based on parents I've talked to). There have been no Covid cases at all at our center and some parents see this as proof that masks work.
So, while I'm not happy about it, I realize I'm in the minority here. Pulling my kid to get a nanny isn't a great option. For now, relaxing the mask usage outside would be a small victory and a step in the right direction.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 12:02
Subject: Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.
I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.
PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.
I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.
There’s no county mandate. The in-home daycare our DC attends does not require masks on the kids and has undergone a routine inspection only a couple months ago. If the masks are truly mandated why weren’t they cited?
I’d like to see a link to an actual mandate. Don’t just believe what Elrich says because he has a history of verbally stating restrictions that aren’t legally required.
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/reopening/requirements/childcare.html
What they don't tell you is that daycares are licensed by the state, not county. The county does not really, truly, have authority. What I don't understand is why parents want to keep up the charade and safety theater?
Anonymous
05/13/2021 11:54
Subject: Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.
I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.
PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.
I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.
There’s no county mandate. The in-home daycare our DC attends does not require masks on the kids and has undergone a routine inspection only a couple months ago. If the masks are truly mandated why weren’t they cited?
I’d like to see a link to an actual mandate. Don’t just believe what Elrich says because he has a history of verbally stating restrictions that aren’t legally required.
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/reopening/requirements/childcare.html
Anonymous
05/13/2021 11:49
Subject: Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.
I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.
PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.
I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.
There’s no county mandate. The in-home daycare our DC attends does not require masks on the kids and has undergone a routine inspection only a couple months ago. If the masks are truly mandated why weren’t they cited?
I’d like to see a link to an actual mandate. Don’t just believe what Elrich says because he has a history of verbally stating restrictions that aren’t legally required.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 11:44
Subject: Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?
Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.
I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.
PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.
I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.