Anonymous
05/17/2021 13:30
Subject: Re:If kid isn't quirky will she fit in at a liberal arts college?
Anonymous wrote:I'm still bothered by the counselor's remark. I suspect the counselor is looking a somewhat conservative AA kid, who plays sports but isn't rah-rah enough to want to do it in college, who has friends in different groups, and just doesn't know what to make of her. She sounds great and should have lots of good choices once she narrows down geography, school size, etc.
Thank you! Yeah, I'm still bothered by it too and she may get a piece of my mind. I think she is totally confused by my DD. I know she wants the NE and small. She does not want all girls and would like to be somewhat close to a city. Can't wait until she can actually visit these schools. She did reach out to one of the schools and they could not have been any nicer with answering her questions and inviting her to sit in on classes in the fall.
Anonymous
05/17/2021 11:38
Subject: If kid isn't quirky will she fit in at a liberal arts college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would you go to a liberal arts school for economics, liberal arts is trash major
Students at a liberal arts college don't major in liberal arts. OP's daughter would major in econ, potentially.
Top liberal arts colleges have more students per capita eventually earning Ph.D.s of all kinds, including Ph.D.s in economics.
Here's the undergraduate institutions that have, in the past, produced the most eventual economics Ph.D.s per capita:
Swarthmore
Williams
Reed
Macalester
Carleton
Amherst
Grinnell
Wellesley
Pomona
Wesleyan
Cal Tech
Centre
Princeton
Whitman
Davidson
Knox
Haverford
Ohio Wesleyan
MIT
Kalamazoo
OP, some of these might be potential reaches/lottery schools for your DD, while others might be good safety schools to look at (e.g. Knox, Kalamazoo).
There are some really good colleges on this list. I agree with PP about getting a good sense from your daughter first of the type of setting (urban/rural), part of country, and how she feels about the potential of being the only AA person in small classes at some of the less diverse colleges. That should help drive college selection much more than the counselor.
Anonymous
05/17/2021 11:13
Subject: If kid isn't quirky will she fit in at a liberal arts college?
Anonymous wrote:You people really should not comment on areas that you know NOTHING about.
You must be new here!
/agree with you
Anonymous
05/17/2021 11:07
Subject: If kid isn't quirky will she fit in at a liberal arts college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would you go to a liberal arts school for economics, liberal arts is trash major
Students at a liberal arts college don't major in liberal arts. OP's daughter would major in econ, potentially.
Top liberal arts colleges have more students per capita eventually earning Ph.D.s of all kinds, including Ph.D.s in economics.
Here's the undergraduate institutions that have, in the past, produced the most eventual economics Ph.D.s per capita:
Swarthmore
Williams
Reed
Macalester
Carleton
Amherst
Grinnell
Wellesley
Pomona
Wesleyan
Cal Tech
Centre
Princeton
Whitman
Davidson
Knox
Haverford
Ohio Wesleyan
MIT
Kalamazoo
OP, some of these might be potential reaches/lottery schools for your DD, while others might be good safety schools to look at (e.g. Knox, Kalamazoo).
So you basically go to college to learn how to teach in college
This sounds like the same genius who thought kids who go to Liberal Arts colleges major in something called "Liberal Arts"
Most people get PhD's to do RESEARCH. Some choose to teach (again, often research methods). Even in Humanities, only about half work as University faculty. For STEM, the figure is lower.
You people really should not comment on areas that you know NOTHING about.
Anonymous
05/17/2021 10:59
Subject: If kid isn't quirky will she fit in at a liberal arts college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would you go to a liberal arts school for economics, liberal arts is trash major
Students at a liberal arts college don't major in liberal arts. OP's daughter would major in econ, potentially.
Top liberal arts colleges have more students per capita eventually earning Ph.D.s of all kinds, including Ph.D.s in economics.
Here's the undergraduate institutions that have, in the past, produced the most eventual economics Ph.D.s per capita:
Swarthmore
Williams
Reed
Macalester
Carleton
Amherst
Grinnell
Wellesley
Pomona
Wesleyan
Cal Tech
Centre
Princeton
Whitman
Davidson
Knox
Haverford
Ohio Wesleyan
MIT
Kalamazoo
OP, some of these might be potential reaches/lottery schools for your DD, while others might be good safety schools to look at (e.g. Knox, Kalamazoo).
So you basically go to college to learn how to teach in college
Economists can do a lot with a Ph.D., not just teaching in college. But should OP's daughter choose to become an economics professor, it's clear that there are a lot of people in need of education.
Anonymous
05/17/2021 10:02
Subject: If kid isn't quirky will she fit in at a liberal arts college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would you go to a liberal arts school for economics, liberal arts is trash major
Students at a liberal arts college don't major in liberal arts. OP's daughter would major in econ, potentially.
Top liberal arts colleges have more students per capita eventually earning Ph.D.s of all kinds, including Ph.D.s in economics.
Here's the undergraduate institutions that have, in the past, produced the most eventual economics Ph.D.s per capita:
Swarthmore
Williams
Reed
Macalester
Carleton
Amherst
Grinnell
Wellesley
Pomona
Wesleyan
Cal Tech
Centre
Princeton
Whitman
Davidson
Knox
Haverford
Ohio Wesleyan
MIT
Kalamazoo
OP, some of these might be potential reaches/lottery schools for your DD, while others might be good safety schools to look at (e.g. Knox, Kalamazoo).
So you basically go to college to learn how to teach in college
Anonymous
05/16/2021 17:57
Subject: If kid isn't quirky will she fit in at a liberal arts college?
Most SLACs/LACs have tons of rich, conservative, preppy kids. Even Bard and Sarah Lawrence. What an absurd comment by the college counselor.
Anonymous
05/16/2021 17:51
Subject: If kid isn't quirky will she fit in at a liberal arts college?
Here's the Ph.D. info in tables. Original info comes from NSF:
https://www.collegetransitions.com/infographics/top-feeders-phd-programs
https://www.collegetransitions.com/infographics/top-feeders-phd-programs
Anonymous
05/16/2021 17:50
Subject: If kid isn't quirky will she fit in at a liberal arts college?
Anonymous wrote:Why would you go to a liberal arts school for economics, liberal arts is trash major
Students at a liberal arts college don't major in liberal arts. OP's daughter would major in econ, potentially.
Top liberal arts colleges have more students per capita eventually earning Ph.D.s of all kinds, including Ph.D.s in economics.
Here's the undergraduate institutions that have, in the past, produced the most eventual economics Ph.D.s per capita:
Swarthmore
Williams
Reed
Macalester
Carleton
Amherst
Grinnell
Wellesley
Pomona
Wesleyan
Cal Tech
Centre
Princeton
Whitman
Davidson
Knox
Haverford
Ohio Wesleyan
MIT
Kalamazoo
OP, some of these might be potential reaches/lottery schools for your DD, while others might be good safety schools to look at (e.g. Knox, Kalamazoo).
Anonymous
05/15/2021 15:16
Subject: If kid isn't quirky will she fit in at a liberal arts college?
Anonymous wrote:Why would you go to a liberal arts school for economics, liberal arts is trash major
You don't sound smart and can't complete a sentence. I'll pass on your advice.
Anonymous
05/15/2021 15:05
Subject: Re:If kid isn't quirky will she fit in at a liberal arts college?
I'm still bothered by the counselor's remark. I suspect the counselor is looking a somewhat conservative AA kid, who plays sports but isn't rah-rah enough to want to do it in college, who has friends in different groups, and just doesn't know what to make of her. She sounds great and should have lots of good choices once she narrows down geography, school size, etc.
Anonymous
05/15/2021 13:34
Subject: If kid isn't quirky will she fit in at a liberal arts college?
Consider the size of the school. Places like Haverford are so small, it may be harder to find her group. Lafayette is sporty and gives merit money, but she could find she’s less conservative than other students once she’s out of the DMV and begin to feel it’s claustrophobic. That doesn’t mean she will, but these are things to think about. Reach out to admissions and ask to be connected with current AA students. The risk of this is that one student’s view can give a false impression of the school bc it’s one personal experience, but it might help too. Just having the conversations with current students will help her understand the landscape and where she might be more comfortable.
Anonymous
05/15/2021 13:21
Subject: If kid isn't quirky will she fit in at a liberal arts college?
Why would you go to a liberal arts school for economics, liberal arts is trash major
Anonymous
05/15/2021 13:20
Subject: If kid isn't quirky will she fit in at a liberal arts college?
Quirky kids reflect a strength to me, because they are okay with going it alone.
They don't crumble if someone posts something mean about their prom dress.
They don't crumble if someone posts something mean about their prom dress.
Anonymous
05/15/2021 13:18
Subject: If kid isn't quirky will she fit in at a liberal arts college?
Quirky to me means a kid who marches to their own drummer. I really appreciate that in a young person. So many teens are petrified to step outside the prescribed patterns of their school's "in crowd"--be that how they dress, their opinions, whether they "party", hair styles, what they enjoy, etc.
To me, quirky is cool because it is based upon who the kid really is. Not what the "anointed" kids do.
To me, quirky is cool because it is based upon who the kid really is. Not what the "anointed" kids do.