Anonymous wrote:I would go to my salon for the shampoo people alone. Is there a massage place that focuses on scalps? I hate massages, but rub my head and play with my hair for more than 5-10 minutes? Yes, I will pay for that.

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't want to pay 20% tip then don't get the high end service. And FFS please tip the shampooer, how cheap could you be?

What high end service? I pay $300 for cut, color, and walking out with a wet head. I’m in a room full of chairs and surrounded by loud hair dryers and women complaining about their in laws. I get a cup of tea. Isn’t $300 enough for the time and talent of a simple cut and color?

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't want to pay 20% tip then don't get the high end service. And FFS please tip the shampooer, how cheap could you be?

What high end service? I pay $300 for cut, color, and walking out with a wet head. I’m in a room full of chairs and surrounded by loud hair dryers and women complaining about their in laws. I get a cup of tea. Isn’t $300 enough for the time and talent of a simple cut and color?

Anonymous wrote:If you don't want to pay 20% tip then don't get the high end service. And FFS please tip the shampooer, how cheap could you be?

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Anonymous wrote:To those making calculations about where the fee for service goes in a salon - some to the stylist some to the salon owner - I haven’t seen any of you factoring the cost of materials, which aren’t cheap. All the product they use on your hair from shampoo/conditioner to color, keratin treatment, styling product, etc. - that all costs plenty and the high end salon is using the high end expensive products. Yes they likely get a wholesale price, but still it’s cutting into the service price so don’t think it’s all going into the pocket of stylist or salon owner. Plenty of other overhead costs, too.

That’s factored into their cost of doing business which sets their prices. Do you tip your doctor because they use paper, bandaids, saline, pay someone to answer the phone, has a website, and needs a Zoom subscription now?

The fact is that the compensation for a stylist has historically been in part based on tips plus part of the cost of the service. You can start a crusade to change the industry (and while you're at it the restaurant tipping compensation scheme) but shorting the person who performs your service because you believe the entire industry is wrong is not a great way to go about it.

I don’t short them, I just don’t go often. I do tip servers 20% because they make about $2 an hour and they are not professionals. I used to work as a waitress and in a spa. I just don’t buy into this whiny, I deserve $200 an hour nonsense. Or a shampoo apprenticeship needing a $5 tip for 5 minutes work on top of their hourly wage.

If you begrudge a shampoo attendant $5 a visit (which. if you even go monthly. is $60 a year), you are cheap and you are kind of a bad person. You are the one who is whining.

Oh, please. It’s 5 minutes of work they’re already being paid for.

Agree. Stop trying to guilt people into giving away money. You are already paying for a shampoo as it is part of the service.

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Anonymous wrote:To those making calculations about where the fee for service goes in a salon - some to the stylist some to the salon owner - I haven’t seen any of you factoring the cost of materials, which aren’t cheap. All the product they use on your hair from shampoo/conditioner to color, keratin treatment, styling product, etc. - that all costs plenty and the high end salon is using the high end expensive products. Yes they likely get a wholesale price, but still it’s cutting into the service price so don’t think it’s all going into the pocket of stylist or salon owner. Plenty of other overhead costs, too.

That’s factored into their cost of doing business which sets their prices. Do you tip your doctor because they use paper, bandaids, saline, pay someone to answer the phone, has a website, and needs a Zoom subscription now?

The fact is that the compensation for a stylist has historically been in part based on tips plus part of the cost of the service. You can start a crusade to change the industry (and while you're at it the restaurant tipping compensation scheme) but shorting the person who performs your service because you believe the entire industry is wrong is not a great way to go about it.

I don’t short them, I just don’t go often. I do tip servers 20% because they make about $2 an hour and they are not professionals. I used to work as a waitress and in a spa. I just don’t buy into this whiny, I deserve $200 an hour nonsense. Or a shampoo apprenticeship needing a $5 tip for 5 minutes work on top of their hourly wage.

If you begrudge a shampoo attendant $5 a visit (which. if you even go monthly. is $60 a year), you are cheap and you are kind of a bad person. You are the one who is whining.

Oh, please. It’s 5 minutes of work they’re already being paid for.

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Anonymous wrote:To those making calculations about where the fee for service goes in a salon - some to the stylist some to the salon owner - I haven’t seen any of you factoring the cost of materials, which aren’t cheap. All the product they use on your hair from shampoo/conditioner to color, keratin treatment, styling product, etc. - that all costs plenty and the high end salon is using the high end expensive products. Yes they likely get a wholesale price, but still it’s cutting into the service price so don’t think it’s all going into the pocket of stylist or salon owner. Plenty of other overhead costs, too.

That’s factored into their cost of doing business which sets their prices. Do you tip your doctor because they use paper, bandaids, saline, pay someone to answer the phone, has a website, and needs a Zoom subscription now?

The fact is that the compensation for a stylist has historically been in part based on tips plus part of the cost of the service. You can start a crusade to change the industry (and while you're at it the restaurant tipping compensation scheme) but shorting the person who performs your service because you believe the entire industry is wrong is not a great way to go about it.

I don’t short them, I just don’t go often. I do tip servers 20% because they make about $2 an hour and they are not professionals. I used to work as a waitress and in a spa. I just don’t buy into this whiny, I deserve $200 an hour nonsense. Or a shampoo apprenticeship needing a $5 tip for 5 minutes work on top of their hourly wage.

If you begrudge a shampoo attendant $5 a visit (which. if you even go monthly. is $60 a year), you are cheap and you are kind of a bad person. You are the one who is whining.

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Anonymous wrote:To those making calculations about where the fee for service goes in a salon - some to the stylist some to the salon owner - I haven’t seen any of you factoring the cost of materials, which aren’t cheap. All the product they use on your hair from shampoo/conditioner to color, keratin treatment, styling product, etc. - that all costs plenty and the high end salon is using the high end expensive products. Yes they likely get a wholesale price, but still it’s cutting into the service price so don’t think it’s all going into the pocket of stylist or salon owner. Plenty of other overhead costs, too.

That’s factored into their cost of doing business which sets their prices. Do you tip your doctor because they use paper, bandaids, saline, pay someone to answer the phone, has a website, and needs a Zoom subscription now?

The fact is that the compensation for a stylist has historically been in part based on tips plus part of the cost of the service. You can start a crusade to change the industry (and while you're at it the restaurant tipping compensation scheme) but shorting the person who performs your service because you believe the entire industry is wrong is not a great way to go about it.

I don’t short them, I just don’t go often. I do tip servers 20% because they make about $2 an hour and they are not professionals. I used to work as a waitress and in a spa. I just don’t buy into this whiny, I deserve $200 an hour nonsense. Or a shampoo apprenticeship needing a $5 tip for 5 minutes work on top of their hourly wage.

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Anonymous wrote:To those making calculations about where the fee for service goes in a salon - some to the stylist some to the salon owner - I haven’t seen any of you factoring the cost of materials, which aren’t cheap. All the product they use on your hair from shampoo/conditioner to color, keratin treatment, styling product, etc. - that all costs plenty and the high end salon is using the high end expensive products. Yes they likely get a wholesale price, but still it’s cutting into the service price so don’t think it’s all going into the pocket of stylist or salon owner. Plenty of other overhead costs, too.

That’s factored into their cost of doing business which sets their prices. Do you tip your doctor because they use paper, bandaids, saline, pay someone to answer the phone, has a website, and needs a Zoom subscription now?

The fact is that the compensation for a stylist has historically been in part based on tips plus part of the cost of the service. You can start a crusade to change the industry (and while you're at it the restaurant tipping compensation scheme) but shorting the person who performs your service because you believe the entire industry is wrong is not a great way to go about it.