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Why would there be a clearer path to college scholarships for girls? Just a matter of fewer girls competing for the spots? Sincere question -- I assume that any college that has girls soccer also has boys soccer. But everywhere I've ever lived, there has always been girls travel soccer right along with boys travel soccer, so is the player pool really that much smaller?

This could be a whole separate topic, but if you google the odds for soccer scholarships for boys vs girls, you will see that after you account for the number of boys and girls playing soccer in high-school, it is significantly easier / more likely for a girl to obtain a scholarship to play soccer than it is for a boy.

SEC has women’s soccer and lacrosse but not men’s. Title IX/football balancing issue.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why would there be a clearer path to college scholarships for girls? Just a matter of fewer girls competing for the spots? Sincere question -- I assume that any college that has girls soccer also has boys soccer. But everywhere I've ever lived, there has always been girls travel soccer right along with boys travel soccer, so is the player pool really that much smaller?

This could be a whole separate topic, but if you google the odds for soccer scholarships for boys vs girls, you will see that after you account for the number of boys and girls playing soccer in high-school, it is significantly easier / more likely for a girl to obtain a scholarship to play soccer than it is for a boy.

College Soccer Odds 2020: Male Female
Number of US High School Soccer Players 2019-20 476,203 408,807
Number of College Soccer Players (see table below) 42,112 41,975
% of US HS Soccer Players competing at any College Level 7.4% 9.7%
% of US HS Soccer Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 0.8% 2.1%

https://scholarshipstats.com/soccer

The odds are miniscule for both ... 1% or 2% ... I think the "my daughter is gonna get a soccer scholarship!" sounds mostly like something fathers tell themselves to justify their madman screaming at girls soccer games lol

These numbers are misleading. The number of girls trying to get a spot on a HS team are much lower than the boys. You have to assume the HS numbers are basically fixed for both boys and girls. As such, the promotion to college playing will have similar outcomes. Athletic girls, have a better shot a college scholarships because there are fewer athletic girls competing in college scholarship sports than their are athletic boys competing for spots. It’s hard to find real data, but if athleticism is something in a girls wheelhouse, sports is a very viable pathway to college.

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Anonymous wrote:

Why would there be a clearer path to college scholarships for girls? Just a matter of fewer girls competing for the spots? Sincere question -- I assume that any college that has girls soccer also has boys soccer. But everywhere I've ever lived, there has always been girls travel soccer right along with boys travel soccer, so is the player pool really that much smaller?

This could be a whole separate topic, but if you google the odds for soccer scholarships for boys vs girls, you will see that after you account for the number of boys and girls playing soccer in high-school, it is significantly easier / more likely for a girl to obtain a scholarship to play soccer than it is for a boy.

College Soccer Odds 2020: Male Female
Number of US High School Soccer Players 2019-20 476,203 408,807
Number of College Soccer Players (see table below) 42,112 41,975
% of US HS Soccer Players competing at any College Level 7.4% 9.7%
% of US HS Soccer Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 0.8% 2.1%

https://scholarshipstats.com/soccer

The odds are miniscule for both ... 1% or 2% ... I think the "my daughter is gonna get a soccer scholarship!" sounds mostly like something fathers tell themselves to justify their madman screaming at girls soccer games lol

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Anonymous wrote:Do parents yell more at Boys’ or Girls’ games?

Oddly, in my experience the yelling at girls’ soccer games is much more than at boys’ games.

There is a clearer path for girls to college scholarships and national team and pro career. It's like an actual possibility

Boys there is such a slim chance at some point they have to smell the coffee and wake the f*ck up.

Also, soccer is the top sport for girls. Not so much for boys. Boys have too many competing sports...sports that generate multi-million contracts. Not the $150k year MLS salary.

When boys reach teens, they will turn and tell a parent to shut up (even when it's not their own parent).

YES! On my son's U15 team there was one dad who thought he was a soccer expert and dressed in a full kit every game. He coached incessantly from the sideline---and other people's kids.

The boys would turn to him and basically tell him to shut up ---some with a little profanity mixed in. He started to get shamed. Imagine if that was your dad??

This can't be real.

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Why would there be a clearer path to college scholarships for girls? Just a matter of fewer girls competing for the spots? Sincere question -- I assume that any college that has girls soccer also has boys soccer. But everywhere I've ever lived, there has always been girls travel soccer right along with boys travel soccer, so is the player pool really that much smaller?

This could be a whole separate topic, but if you google the odds for soccer scholarships for boys vs girls, you will see that after you account for the number of boys and girls playing soccer in high-school, it is significantly easier / more likely for a girl to obtain a scholarship to play soccer than it is for a boy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do parents yell more at Boys’ or Girls’ games?

Oddly, in my experience the yelling at girls’ soccer games is much more than at boys’ games.

There is a clearer path for girls to college scholarships and national team and pro career. It's like an actual possibility

Boys there is such a slim chance at some point they have to smell the coffee and wake the f*ck up.

Also, soccer is the top sport for girls. Not so much for boys. Boys have too many competing sports...sports that generate multi-million contracts. Not the $150k year MLS salary.

When boys reach teens, they will turn and tell a parent to shut up (even when it's not their own parent).

I have all boys, btw.

Just curious, is it primarily moms or dads yelling at the girl games or both?? Boy dads have been around sports and played much more than moms so they know what the yelling is like. And, I say that as a mom that played D1 college. It's just not as common with women my age.

In my experience with both boys' and girls' games, it's the dads 95% of the time.

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Anonymous wrote:A "great kick!" is absolutely in order if it clears the goal area.

Yes, girls games have louder crowds which is fine when everyone is in on the excitement.

Ha, this reminds me of a funny situation. Little U9 girls rec game. GK makes a "great" save. She like fell over and the ball rolled into her face. She picked it up and all of her teammates were so excited that she blocked the shot. Like 4 of her teammates run to her to share in the excitement. The GK gets up and hands the ball to a teammate who takes it from her WITH HER HANDS right in front of the goal. : )

This is awesome. Exactly what I enjoy about watching little kid soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do parents yell more at Boys’ or Girls’ games?

Oddly, in my experience the yelling at girls’ soccer games is much more than at boys’ games.

There is a clearer path for girls to college scholarships and national team and pro career. It's like an actual possibility

Boys there is such a slim chance at some point they have to smell the coffee and wake the f*ck up.

Also, soccer is the top sport for girls. Not so much for boys. Boys have too many competing sports...sports that generate multi-million contracts. Not the $150k year MLS salary.

When boys reach teens, they will turn and tell a parent to shut up (even when it's not their own parent).

Why would there be a clearer path to college scholarships for girls? Just a matter of fewer girls competing for the spots? Sincere question -- I assume that any college that has girls soccer also has boys soccer. But everywhere I've ever lived, there has always been girls travel soccer right along with boys travel soccer, so is the player pool really that much smaller?

As for national team and pro career, I mean ... I guess the questions are the same. Aren't the chances of any individual girl actually making the national team and having a pro career just as remote as they are for any individual boy? (Your point about competing sports for boys only supports the notion that there are so many boys playing so many other sports, that it doesn't make sense that soccer would be more difficult for boys to "go pro" than it would be for girls.)

By the way, most of the extreme yelling I hear at girls' soccer games seems to come from the fathers. I sometimes wonder if those guys missed out on having sons, and are taking all of their sports-crazy male energy out on their daughters lol

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do parents yell more at Boys’ or Girls’ games?

Oddly, in my experience the yelling at girls’ soccer games is much more than at boys’ games.

There is a clearer path for girls to college scholarships and national team and pro career. It's like an actual possibility

Boys there is such a slim chance at some point they have to smell the coffee and wake the f*ck up.

Also, soccer is the top sport for girls. Not so much for boys. Boys have too many competing sports...sports that generate multi-million contracts. Not the $150k year MLS salary.

When boys reach teens, they will turn and tell a parent to shut up (even when it's not their own parent).

YES! On my son's U15 team there was one dad who thought he was a soccer expert and dressed in a full kit every game. He coached incessantly from the sideline---and other people's kids.

The boys would turn to him and basically tell him to shut up ---some with a little profanity mixed in. He started to get shamed. Imagine if that was your dad??

Yeah, by HS these boys are as tall and big as men on the sidelines. No qualms or intimidation for telling them to shut their god-damn trap.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do parents yell more at Boys’ or Girls’ games?

Oddly, in my experience the yelling at girls’ soccer games is much more than at boys’ games.

There is a clearer path for girls to college scholarships and national team and pro career. It's like an actual possibility

Boys there is such a slim chance at some point they have to smell the coffee and wake the f*ck up.

Also, soccer is the top sport for girls. Not so much for boys. Boys have too many competing sports...sports that generate multi-million contracts. Not the $150k year MLS salary.

When boys reach teens, they will turn and tell a parent to shut up (even when it's not their own parent).

YES! On my son's U15 team there was one dad who thought he was a soccer expert and dressed in a full kit every game. He coached incessantly from the sideline---and other people's kids.

The boys would turn to him and basically tell him to shut up ---some with a little profanity mixed in. He started to get shamed. Imagine if that was your dad??

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do parents yell more at Boys’ or Girls’ games?

Oddly, in my experience the yelling at girls’ soccer games is much more than at boys’ games.

There is a clearer path for girls to college scholarships and national team and pro career. It's like an actual possibility

Boys there is such a slim chance at some point they have to smell the coffee and wake the f*ck up.

Also, soccer is the top sport for girls. Not so much for boys. Boys have too many competing sports...sports that generate multi-million contracts. Not the $150k year MLS salary.

When boys reach teens, they will turn and tell a parent to shut up (even when it's not their own parent).

I have all boys, btw.

Just curious, is it primarily moms or dads yelling at the girl games or both?? Boy dads have been around sports and played much more than moms so they know what the yelling is like. And, I say that as a mom that played D1 college. It's just not as common with women my age.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do parents yell more at Boys’ or Girls’ games?

Oddly, in my experience the yelling at girls’ soccer games is much more than at boys’ games.

There is a clearer path for girls to college scholarships and national team and pro career. It's like an actual possibility

Boys there is such a slim chance at some point they have to smell the coffee and wake the f*ck up.

Also, soccer is the top sport for girls. Not so much for boys. Boys have too many competing sports...sports that generate multi-million contracts. Not the $150k year MLS salary.

When boys reach teens, they will turn and tell a parent to shut up (even when it's not their own parent).

Anonymous wrote:Any tips to curb dh's yelling? He is absolutely not the worst and our club is already very low key with that kind of unwanted participation (not how I grew up with parents yelling and roaring as a fun past time). He acknowledges that others yell too much and get into a coaching role when they shouldn't but sees himself as "rallying" the team and positively hyping them with a dash of directions...NO I just wish he would shut his mouth. I already keep the game time to myself until the last moment in hopes something else busies him but he asks repeatedly and clears his usually busy schedule to go. He is driving me so crazy!! Its unnecessary for him to do anything but his already ample clapping. Any tips on how to reach someone who sees the flaws in the other dads but not himself?

Buy him a nice video camera(new or used). It has to be a camera(not a phone) that he has to look through to film and he should be tying to captured the whole game...not just your kid. It actually take some concentration to do and he will not be able to focus on your kid. It works.

Anonymous wrote:A "great kick!" is absolutely in order if it clears the goal area.

Yes, girls games have louder crowds which is fine when everyone is in on the excitement.

Ha, this reminds me of a funny situation. Little U9 girls rec game. GK makes a "great" save. She like fell over and the ball rolled into her face. She picked it up and all of her teammates were so excited that she blocked the shot. Like 4 of her teammates run to her to share in the excitement. The GK gets up and hands the ball to a teammate who takes it from her WITH HER HANDS right in front of the goal. : )

A "great kick!" is absolutely in order if it clears the goal area.

Yes, girls games have louder crowds which is fine when everyone is in on the excitement.