Anonymous wrote:I think Cornell could improve it's sports programs. I'd think it would increase in prestige though academically from the international reputation and the NYC campus.

Hockey and lacrosse are nationally ranked. Hockey was ranked #1 in the country in 2020 when the pandemic put an end to the season. The hockey team plays in and sells out Madison Square Garden on Thanksgiving weekend each year. Lacrosse was ranked #2 when the pandemic stopped the 2020 season. Wrestling is also a national power and has had NCAA national champions, one of whom is a two-time world champion and just made the Olympic team. Men's basketball is the most recent Ivy program to make the Sweet 16, though that was 10 years ago now. Men and women rowers have made the US Olympic teams. Not sure what you are looking for...football?

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a bit overrated. I don't find it to be better than the current top 25 private ( CMU, Emory, Notre Dame etc). If it wasn't an ivy league school would it still be top 25? And why does it have so many transfer programs...

https://cornellsun.com/2010/05/05/c-u-enters-into-transfer-agreement-with-n-j-college/

OP why did you post? I don’t get it. You have a very narrow view of what top ranked universities should be like. Maybe let your kid figure out where to apply on their own and don’t jump in with your weird opinions. I did not go to Cornell but I know several people who did and they are all very impressive. I also work in a STEM field and Cornell can easily hold its own against all the top 10 schools in STEM. Their expansive campus means they have the space for top notch facilities. If you don’t like it, that’s fine but why put it down in such a meaningless way. It makes you sound dumb honestly.

Cornell has over 8000 STEM undergrads. The more than the TOTAL number of undergrads at 5 other Ivy League schools. Harvard has 7000 undergrads, Yale and Princeton around 6000.

So what? They are a bigger school than the other ivys. U of Toronto is the most elite school in Canada and it has a total of 70,000 students. I’m not sure why Americans feel elite schools have to be tiny and exclusive

But with U of Toronto there is some pressure to get into one of the "tiny and exclusive" colleges on the St. George campus, isn't there?

For example, Trinity College at U of T has only 2k students.

But I do take your point-- U of T has remained elite even though it actually has 3 campuses and is composed of many colleges.

Rankings do not actually distinguish between the quality of the education your child will get at any of these schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a bit overrated. I don't find it to be better than the current top 25 private ( CMU, Emory, Notre Dame etc). If it wasn't an ivy league school would it still be top 25? And why does it have so many transfer programs...

https://cornellsun.com/2010/05/05/c-u-enters-into-transfer-agreement-with-n-j-college/

OP why did you post? I don’t get it. You have a very narrow view of what top ranked universities should be like. Maybe let your kid figure out where to apply on their own and don’t jump in with your weird opinions. I did not go to Cornell but I know several people who did and they are all very impressive. I also work in a STEM field and Cornell can easily hold its own against all the top 10 schools in STEM. Their expansive campus means they have the space for top notch facilities. If you don’t like it, that’s fine but why put it down in such a meaningless way. It makes you sound dumb honestly.

Cornell has over 8000 STEM undergrads. The more than the TOTAL number of undergrads at 5 other Ivy League schools. Harvard has 7000 undergrads, Yale and Princeton around 6000.

So what? They are a bigger school than the other ivys. U of Toronto is the most elite school in Canada and it has a total of 70,000 students. I’m not sure why Americans feel elite schools have to be tiny and exclusive

But with U of Toronto there is some pressure to get into one of the "tiny and exclusive" colleges on the St. George campus, isn't there?

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a bit overrated. I don't find it to be better than the current top 25 private ( CMU, Emory, Notre Dame etc). If it wasn't an ivy league school would it still be top 25? And why does it have so many transfer programs...

https://cornellsun.com/2010/05/05/c-u-enters-into-transfer-agreement-with-n-j-college/

OP why did you post? I don’t get it. You have a very narrow view of what top ranked universities should be like. Maybe let your kid figure out where to apply on their own and don’t jump in with your weird opinions. I did not go to Cornell but I know several people who did and they are all very impressive. I also work in a STEM field and Cornell can easily hold its own against all the top 10 schools in STEM. Their expansive campus means they have the space for top notch facilities. If you don’t like it, that’s fine but why put it down in such a meaningless way. It makes you sound dumb honestly.

Cornell has over 8000 STEM undergrads. The more than the TOTAL number of undergrads at 5 other Ivy League schools. Harvard has 7000 undergrads, Yale and Princeton around 6000.

So what? They are a bigger school than the other ivys. U of Toronto is the most elite school in Canada and it has a total of 70,000 students. I’m not sure why Americans feel elite schools have to be tiny and exclusive

I’m not sure why Canadians think that a handful of internet people represent Americans. That stupidity aside, our best schools are not tiny so your post makes no sense on multiple levels.

Cornell alum and parent of current Cornell undergrad. Every time I see a “Cornell is a lesser” post I just chuckle at how the post reflects on the author and their insecurities. Attending Cornell was the best choice I ever made. I am confident that is enough of a confirmation of the school’s validity.

I graduated from Cornell with an animal science degree and went on to vet school at the University of Pennsylvania. It was a terrific education overall and the department was and still is among the best in the country. I made friends from all different colleges at Cornell and none of us cared one bit which schools our friends were in. I took almost half of my credits in the arts and sciences school. As a NYS resident, the cost of my education at the time was about half what it would have been if I had been in arts and sciences. Today, it would only be about $20,000 less. It's a top notch university with a strong worldwide reputation.

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Curious OP why you have an axe to grind?


+1. Between this and the other anti-Cornell thread, there's something odd with the recent Cornell bashing. OP, I hope your kid goes to a school that you deem worthy.

+100 It's completely inaccurate that the Cornell students at the statutory units are somehow of lesser quality. CALS had an 11 percent acceptance rate last year. My child was accepted with a 1580 and 4.0 unweighted GPA and she knows many others excellent students in the statutory colleges at Cornell. Also, there are students from many other states in the statutory colleges, not just NYS. Many of the programs are quite unique and top notch. The Cornell haters on this board seem to know very little about the school but they have a lot of negativity toward it.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, Cornell football SUCKED when I was there, but their hockey team was pretty fun to watch.

So, if OP was looking for a solid school for football, I don't recommend Cornell at all.

Back in 1991, Stanford hosted Cornell for a football game in honor of Stanford’s 100th anniversary of their founding (because Stanford was modeled after Cornell). It was a complete rout, but fun nonetheless. Some guys walked around with a banner that said “Let’s play hockey!” If it had been a hockey games, Cornell probably would have won . They pretty much had no chance in a football game!

Sports Illustrated even wrote a piece on it - https://vault.si.com/vault/1991/10/21/a-real-birthday-bash-even-sacrificial-lamb-cornell-enjoyed-stanfords-centennial-celebration

No great football, but at least Cornellians have a good sense of humor.

Even about the "Ivy League":

Anonymous wrote:Ok, Cornell football SUCKED when I was there, but their hockey team was pretty fun to watch.

So, if OP was looking for a solid school for football, I don't recommend Cornell at all.

Back in 1991, Stanford hosted Cornell for a football game in honor of Stanford’s 100th anniversary of their founding (because Stanford was modeled after Cornell). It was a complete rout, but fun nonetheless. Some guys walked around with a banner that said “Let’s play hockey!” If it had been a hockey games, Cornell probably would have won . They pretty much had no chance in a football game!

Sports Illustrated even wrote a piece on it - https://vault.si.com/vault/1991/10/21/a-real-birthday-bash-even-sacrificial-lamb-cornell-enjoyed-stanfords-centennial-celebration

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a bit overrated. I don't find it to be better than the current top 25 private ( CMU, Emory, Notre Dame etc). If it wasn't an ivy league school would it still be top 25? And why does it have so many transfer programs...

https://cornellsun.com/2010/05/05/c-u-enters-into-transfer-agreement-with-n-j-college/

OP why did you post? I don’t get it. You have a very narrow view of what top ranked universities should be like. Maybe let your kid figure out where to apply on their own and don’t jump in with your weird opinions. I did not go to Cornell but I know several people who did and they are all very impressive. I also work in a STEM field and Cornell can easily hold its own against all the top 10 schools in STEM. Their expansive campus means they have the space for top notch facilities. If you don’t like it, that’s fine but why put it down in such a meaningless way. It makes you sound dumb honestly.

Cornell has over 8000 STEM undergrads. The more than the TOTAL number of undergrads at 5 other Ivy League schools. Harvard has 7000 undergrads, Yale and Princeton around 6000.

So what? They are a bigger school than the other ivys. U of Toronto is the most elite school in Canada and it has a total of 70,000 students. I’m not sure why Americans feel elite schools have to be tiny and exclusive

SLACs also recruit very heavily for athletics. They take a disproportionate number of athletes for their total small number of students

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, Cornell football SUCKED when I was there, but their hockey team was pretty fun to watch.

So, if OP was looking for a solid school for football, I don't recommend Cornell at all.

How many colleges in the US have a hockey team?

Um, many? Probably most in the northeast and midwest, at a minimum. There's more to college sports than football.

Anonymous wrote:Ok, Cornell football SUCKED when I was there, but their hockey team was pretty fun to watch.

So, if OP was looking for a solid school for football, I don't recommend Cornell at all.

How many colleges in the US have a hockey team?

Ok, Cornell football SUCKED when I was there, but their hockey team was pretty fun to watch.

So, if OP was looking for a solid school for football, I don't recommend Cornell at all.