Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 19:24     Subject: MSI has the strictest rules

If msi is claiming that they are taking it too literally.

The two areas have to be delineated- and will allow 2 spectators per player, up to 50 max.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 19:20     Subject: MSI has the strictest rules

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Anonymous wrote:Then why does BCC baseball which has all its games in Macgomery County allow two spectators per child and MSI zero?


Don’t be dense. It’s a MoCo rule. Baseball is not a contact sport. Look up the MoCo website and stop blaming MSI. You can learn a lot by visiting the MoCo website.


You could learn a lot as well by actually reading the rules, which has raised the outdoor gathering limit to 50, and has more spectator exceptions beyond that in various circumstances. The contact of the sport has absolutely NOTHING to do with spectators. Geez ... for goodness sakes. You think whether parents are on the side watching baseball, soccer, football, baton twirling, or whatever else makes a difference on SPECTATOR policies.

I really am amazed by some comments here. "Don't be dense" -- the contact of the sport has nothing to do with spectating. Never has, even in this very COVID restrictive county, and never will be. Not a single time in all the executive orders was gathering limits or spectator policies tied to a sport classification. Never. It was about whether games or contact practices could be held at all.


I have a baseball player, and a rec soccer player. My baseball player has never played or practiced on a field that didn't have a place for parents to watch that was six feet with some kind of separation from the player. With my soccer player, there have been plenty of times when he played on a field where the parents watched literally from the sideline, because there was another game a few feet away.

I can't think of a field where my baseball player has practiced or played where it wouldn't be easy to meet both the spectator guidelines and the 50 person limit. On the other hand, most of the soccer places would struggle, because they have multiple games on the same larger field, so those numbers are added, and the places for spectators aren't as distanced.


I have been to hundreds of MSI games at countless schools, parks, etc. I seriously don't get what you are saying. There's plenty of room. Historically, practice was to have parents lined up at the sideline, but there's lots of space to adjust and spread. The little 4 v. 4 games where they have a million going on at once would be the most problematic, unless they could space them out more to cut down capacity.


You've played rec soccer, before the pandemic, on fields where there was a physical boundary around the field, 6 feet from the edge of where the players would be if they chased a ball out of bounds? That's what Montgomery County is requiring. Baseball that's easy, but given that the same soccer fields are used for little kids with one field size, and then a few hours later there are adults playing needing a totally different field size, I've never seen physical boundaries set up like that.

Baseball already has that, because you have a cage behind the batter, and usually bleachers that are back from the basepath and all ages use the same basic diamond.


That’s 100percent factually wrong.


Which parts are wrong? That baseball has a cage behind the batter? That MSI chops up larger fields to make smaller fields for kids? That Montgomery County has guidelines that there need to be visual barriers between the spectators and the players?


Moco does not require a physical barrier between spectators and the players.
There are many games planned this weekend at soccerplex and none of those fields have physical barriers except the stadium.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 19:16     Subject: MSI has the strictest rules

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Then why does BCC baseball which has all its games in Macgomery County allow two spectators per child and MSI zero?


Don’t be dense. It’s a MoCo rule. Baseball is not a contact sport. Look up the MoCo website and stop blaming MSI. You can learn a lot by visiting the MoCo website.


You could learn a lot as well by actually reading the rules, which has raised the outdoor gathering limit to 50, and has more spectator exceptions beyond that in various circumstances. The contact of the sport has absolutely NOTHING to do with spectators. Geez ... for goodness sakes. You think whether parents are on the side watching baseball, soccer, football, baton twirling, or whatever else makes a difference on SPECTATOR policies.

I really am amazed by some comments here. "Don't be dense" -- the contact of the sport has nothing to do with spectating. Never has, even in this very COVID restrictive county, and never will be. Not a single time in all the executive orders was gathering limits or spectator policies tied to a sport classification. Never. It was about whether games or contact practices could be held at all.


I have a baseball player, and a rec soccer player. My baseball player has never played or practiced on a field that didn't have a place for parents to watch that was six feet with some kind of separation from the player. With my soccer player, there have been plenty of times when he played on a field where the parents watched literally from the sideline, because there was another game a few feet away.

I can't think of a field where my baseball player has practiced or played where it wouldn't be easy to meet both the spectator guidelines and the 50 person limit. On the other hand, most of the soccer places would struggle, because they have multiple games on the same larger field, so those numbers are added, and the places for spectators aren't as distanced.


I have been to hundreds of MSI games at countless schools, parks, etc. I seriously don't get what you are saying. There's plenty of room. Historically, practice was to have parents lined up at the sideline, but there's lots of space to adjust and spread. The little 4 v. 4 games where they have a million going on at once would be the most problematic, unless they could space them out more to cut down capacity.


You've played rec soccer, before the pandemic, on fields where there was a physical boundary around the field, 6 feet from the edge of where the players would be if they chased a ball out of bounds? That's what Montgomery County is requiring. Baseball that's easy, but given that the same soccer fields are used for little kids with one field size, and then a few hours later there are adults playing needing a totally different field size, I've never seen physical boundaries set up like that.

Baseball already has that, because you have a cage behind the batter, and usually bleachers that are back from the basepath and all ages use the same basic diamond.


That’s 100percent factually wrong.


Which parts are wrong? That baseball has a cage behind the batter? That MSI chops up larger fields to make smaller fields for kids? That Montgomery County has guidelines that there need to be visual barriers between the spectators and the players?
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 19:10     Subject: MSI has the strictest rules

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Then why does BCC baseball which has all its games in Macgomery County allow two spectators per child and MSI zero?


Don’t be dense. It’s a MoCo rule. Baseball is not a contact sport. Look up the MoCo website and stop blaming MSI. You can learn a lot by visiting the MoCo website.


You could learn a lot as well by actually reading the rules, which has raised the outdoor gathering limit to 50, and has more spectator exceptions beyond that in various circumstances. The contact of the sport has absolutely NOTHING to do with spectators. Geez ... for goodness sakes. You think whether parents are on the side watching baseball, soccer, football, baton twirling, or whatever else makes a difference on SPECTATOR policies.

I really am amazed by some comments here. "Don't be dense" -- the contact of the sport has nothing to do with spectating. Never has, even in this very COVID restrictive county, and never will be. Not a single time in all the executive orders was gathering limits or spectator policies tied to a sport classification. Never. It was about whether games or contact practices could be held at all.


I have a baseball player, and a rec soccer player. My baseball player has never played or practiced on a field that didn't have a place for parents to watch that was six feet with some kind of separation from the player. With my soccer player, there have been plenty of times when he played on a field where the parents watched literally from the sideline, because there was another game a few feet away.

I can't think of a field where my baseball player has practiced or played where it wouldn't be easy to meet both the spectator guidelines and the 50 person limit. On the other hand, most of the soccer places would struggle, because they have multiple games on the same larger field, so those numbers are added, and the places for spectators aren't as distanced.


I have been to hundreds of MSI games at countless schools, parks, etc. I seriously don't get what you are saying. There's plenty of room. Historically, practice was to have parents lined up at the sideline, but there's lots of space to adjust and spread. The little 4 v. 4 games where they have a million going on at once would be the most problematic, unless they could space them out more to cut down capacity.


You've played rec soccer, before the pandemic, on fields where there was a physical boundary around the field, 6 feet from the edge of where the players would be if they chased a ball out of bounds? That's what Montgomery County is requiring. Baseball that's easy, but given that the same soccer fields are used for little kids with one field size, and then a few hours later there are adults playing needing a totally different field size, I've never seen physical boundaries set up like that.

Baseball already has that, because you have a cage behind the batter, and usually bleachers that are back from the basepath and all ages use the same basic diamond.


That’s 100percent factually wrong.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 16:16     Subject: Re:MSI has the strictest rules

Anonymous
Post 04/10/2021 07:11     Subject: MSI has the strictest rules

Anonymous wrote:This was the rule (no spectators) for winter soccer at the Soccerplex. The kids were just happy to play. Everyone is used to wearing the mask while playing now. Our travel team wears the mask no matter wear they play, even in the rain. Proud of the example they set for other teams, that may only have a player or two wearing the mask (probably because their parent made them).


Nice. You and the parents on your team are raising your kids very well.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2021 05:13     Subject: Re:MSI has the strictest rules

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MSI parent here,

Are people actually planning on staying in the car during the game? I think I read that that's the expectation, but I was thinking I'd drop my kid off and take my dog for a walk in the neighborhood. If I had a first grader, I'd do differently, but my kid is U11.

What are other people doing during the game?


I'm going to go out on a limb and say yes, you can definitely drop your 10 year old off at a game and go walking when they say no spectators. Leave your #.

It's like dropping your kid off at soccer practice.





Yeah, that's what I figured, but I swear I got some communication from MSI, or read something on the website that said "Parents must stay in their cars", and I wasn't sure if they meant parents must be there in case of an emergency or something.


No "Stay in your cars" simply means "don't come on our field and get us shut down"

Anonymous
Post 04/10/2021 04:29     Subject: MSI has the strictest rules

This was the rule (no spectators) for winter soccer at the Soccerplex. The kids were just happy to play. Everyone is used to wearing the mask while playing now. Our travel team wears the mask no matter wear they play, even in the rain. Proud of the example they set for other teams, that may only have a player or two wearing the mask (probably because their parent made them).
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2021 02:47     Subject: Re:MSI has the strictest rules

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MSI parent here,

Are people actually planning on staying in the car during the game? I think I read that that's the expectation, but I was thinking I'd drop my kid off and take my dog for a walk in the neighborhood. If I had a first grader, I'd do differently, but my kid is U11.

What are other people doing during the game?


I'm going to go out on a limb and say yes, you can definitely drop your 10 year old off at a game and go walking when they say no spectators. Leave your #.

It's like dropping your kid off at soccer practice.





Yeah, that's what I figured, but I swear I got some communication from MSI, or read something on the website that said "Parents must stay in their cars", and I wasn't sure if they meant parents must be there in case of an emergency or something.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2021 23:47     Subject: MSI has the strictest rules

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I am not sure why they are being so strict. Last season 1 parent could watch the games. My other son plays for BCC baseball and masks are required when off the field and 2 parents can watch games.


Montgomery County is the most strict for soccer in this area. They allow 50 people on one field. The county exec and Travis Gayles are the ones to fight this with. They keep us very restricted. Most of the travel teams are playing outside the county.


MoCo Erlich and Gayles have been $hitting on schools - public & private, and extra curriculars for 13 months now.

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Anonymous
Post 04/09/2021 20:36     Subject: Re:MSI has the strictest rules

Anonymous wrote:MSI parent here,

Are people actually planning on staying in the car during the game? I think I read that that's the expectation, but I was thinking I'd drop my kid off and take my dog for a walk in the neighborhood. If I had a first grader, I'd do differently, but my kid is U11.

What are other people doing during the game?


I'm going to go out on a limb and say yes, you can definitely drop your 10 year old off at a game and go walking when they say no spectators. Leave your #.

It's like dropping your kid off at soccer practice.



Anonymous
Post 04/09/2021 20:23     Subject: Re:MSI has the strictest rules

MSI parent here,

Are people actually planning on staying in the car during the game? I think I read that that's the expectation, but I was thinking I'd drop my kid off and take my dog for a walk in the neighborhood. If I had a first grader, I'd do differently, but my kid is U11.

What are other people doing during the game?
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2021 19:35     Subject: MSI has the strictest rules

I can't figure out how to post an image, but on the front page of the MSI website it says they are working with the county on a plan that will allow the return of spectators on some level.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2021 18:38     Subject: MSI has the strictest rules

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The moco rule says if there is a barrier between the field and the spectators you can have the spectators. What field has a barrier? My kid has been playing at Julius West, and there is definitely no barrier


The "barrier" at the plex is a white painted line 10 ft from the field

These "rules" are simply ridiculous and as long as this county rolls over for them the quality of soccer in Moco will continue to decline as parents take their kids elsewhere that they don't have to wear a mask and can actually watch the freaking games.


Do they play rec soccer at the plex? My experience was that usually the higher level teams are the ones using those.

The high school fields, where there's a track around, meet this requirement which is why MSI allows spectators there.


Yes, they have a large rec league called SAM. Like MSI but at Soccerplex. Then they have Select that is like Classic.


MSI rec also plays at soccerplex
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2021 18:27     Subject: MSI has the strictest rules

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Then why does BCC baseball which has all its games in Macgomery County allow two spectators per child and MSI zero?


Don’t be dense. It’s a MoCo rule. Baseball is not a contact sport. Look up the MoCo website and stop blaming MSI. You can learn a lot by visiting the MoCo website.


You could learn a lot as well by actually reading the rules, which has raised the outdoor gathering limit to 50, and has more spectator exceptions beyond that in various circumstances. The contact of the sport has absolutely NOTHING to do with spectators. Geez ... for goodness sakes. You think whether parents are on the side watching baseball, soccer, football, baton twirling, or whatever else makes a difference on SPECTATOR policies.

I really am amazed by some comments here. "Don't be dense" -- the contact of the sport has nothing to do with spectating. Never has, even in this very COVID restrictive county, and never will be. Not a single time in all the executive orders was gathering limits or spectator policies tied to a sport classification. Never. It was about whether games or contact practices could be held at all.


I have a baseball player, and a rec soccer player. My baseball player has never played or practiced on a field that didn't have a place for parents to watch that was six feet with some kind of separation from the player. With my soccer player, there have been plenty of times when he played on a field where the parents watched literally from the sideline, because there was another game a few feet away.

I can't think of a field where my baseball player has practiced or played where it wouldn't be easy to meet both the spectator guidelines and the 50 person limit. On the other hand, most of the soccer places would struggle, because they have multiple games on the same larger field, so those numbers are added, and the places for spectators aren't as distanced.


I have been to hundreds of MSI games at countless schools, parks, etc. I seriously don't get what you are saying. There's plenty of room. Historically, practice was to have parents lined up at the sideline, but there's lots of space to adjust and spread. The little 4 v. 4 games where they have a million going on at once would be the most problematic, unless they could space them out more to cut down capacity.


You've played rec soccer, before the pandemic, on fields where there was a physical boundary around the field, 6 feet from the edge of where the players would be if they chased a ball out of bounds? That's what Montgomery County is requiring. Baseball that's easy, but given that the same soccer fields are used for little kids with one field size, and then a few hours later there are adults playing needing a totally different field size, I've never seen physical boundaries set up like that.

Baseball already has that, because you have a cage behind the batter, and usually bleachers that are back from the basepath and all ages use the same basic diamond.