Anonymous
04/08/2021 14:50
Subject: Re:Rest In Peace Meritocracy
Meh. Our DC is half Asian. Good stats, but waitlisted or rejected by all top 30 schools applied to. DC will attend a top 40 school with a substantial merit scholarship and honors college. DC will save the tuition $ for grad school. It’s all good. No one owes DC a spot anywhere. DC is grateful for the merit $ and opportunity at the school that chose DC. In the worst case a kid can transfer to a higher ranked school if it remains a big deal.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 14:45
Subject: Rest In Peace Meritocracy
Where is the outrage over the unqualified children of the rich who are admitted? Are the best grades and test scores the only things that indicate leadership and creativity and other qualities that communities value?
Anonymous
04/08/2021 14:41
Subject: Rest In Peace Meritocracy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what is the asian acceptance rate at what top LAC?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:maybe because he can’t spell Varsity?
Or maybe because he did not pay consultants to write and proof his papers. Varsity Blues baby. All the scum are in the top universities now. Asians should boycott Harvard.
I don't agree with the rest of your post, but if nearly no Asians applied to Harvard, because of the way racial balance in admissions works, the Asian acceptance rate would shoot sky high, the way it is at some top LACs.
There are top LACs where the % of asians is below the general population, rendering them URMs. Look at the common data sets of them and find out which ones. You will get a benefit especially if ED.
What are these rates please and where. You are the one posting this. What is the data?
So you want me to do your homework for you?
Washington & Lee is one example, where it is only 3.7%
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/washington-and-lee-university/student-life/diversity/chart-ethnic-diversity.html
Next time ask nicely instead of tacitly accusing it is untrue and I'll help you with more. For now, though, you are on your own.
Call me crazy - but if this kid is such a genius - why did he not game this system and apply to washington and lee. Would he not have good chance of getting an acceptance?
W&L and other SLAC/LACs are not strong in STEM which is likely what this kid was targeting. If what you propose was a real strategy, W&L would be flooded with TJ kids and it is not. There are no "hidden secrets" in college admissions. Any arbitrage that one identifies is gone within a single admissions cycle.
It was proposed that asian males have an advantage at top LACs that's all.
They do and I was just explaining why.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 14:39
Subject: Re:Rest In Peace Meritocracy
Anonymous wrote:Just found out a truly average kid from my kids mcps high school got into Columbia! No scores either!
Keep fanning those flames, PP!
Anonymous
04/08/2021 14:37
Subject: Re:Rest In Peace Meritocracy
Just found out a truly average kid from my kids mcps high school got into Columbia! No scores either!
Anonymous
04/08/2021 14:37
Subject: Rest In Peace Meritocracy
Anonymous wrote:I don't agree that there are a million other kids with 800 Math SAT and 800 Physics Subject test. College is about academics. Or it should be. And he should have gotten into one of these schools. There are not that many more qualified applicants. The college have chosen to make bullshit excuses for some other agenda to select less qualified kids. I don't even know what that agenda is. But come on people, college IS about the ability to score 800 on a Physics test!!!Yes, there are some discrepancies they have to sort out being different grades and should put a little weight on recommendations or ECs but only when comparing kids in the same bucket. I have no dog in this fight. My kids at 1250 and 1450 -- not Ivy. But people actually think this is fair -- I don't get it. Maybe he worked to get so smart or maybe he was born that way ---- doesn't even matter to me. This isn't a job interview. It is selection into an academic program - why should it be based on this. I am disgusted but wish him well.
College has never been about “academics”.
It’s about gaining knowledge (which is something very different than “academics”), growing, and building connections (for things like jobs, marriages, memberships, donations, ect).
College admissions don’t care about perfect stats. They never have and they never will. Parents and students will lead healthier lives once they stop moaning about this lie they have been told and have accepted for far too long.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 14:31
Subject: Rest In Peace Meritocracy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what is the asian acceptance rate at what top LAC?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:maybe because he can’t spell Varsity?
Or maybe because he did not pay consultants to write and proof his papers. Varsity Blues baby. All the scum are in the top universities now. Asians should boycott Harvard.
I don't agree with the rest of your post, but if nearly no Asians applied to Harvard, because of the way racial balance in admissions works, the Asian acceptance rate would shoot sky high, the way it is at some top LACs.
There are top LACs where the % of asians is below the general population, rendering them URMs. Look at the common data sets of them and find out which ones. You will get a benefit especially if ED.
What are these rates please and where. You are the one posting this. What is the data?
So you want me to do your homework for you?
Washington & Lee is one example, where it is only 3.7%
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/washington-and-lee-university/student-life/diversity/chart-ethnic-diversity.html
Next time ask nicely instead of tacitly accusing it is untrue and I'll help you with more. For now, though, you are on your own.
Call me crazy - but if this kid is such a genius - why did he not game this system and apply to washington and lee. Would he not have good chance of getting an acceptance?
W&L and other SLAC/LACs are not strong in STEM which is likely what this kid was targeting. If what you propose was a real strategy, W&L would be flooded with TJ kids and it is not. There are no "hidden secrets" in college admissions. Any arbitrage that one identifies is gone within a single admissions cycle.
It was proposed that asian males have an advantage at top LACs that's all.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 14:27
Subject: Rest In Peace Meritocracy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what is the asian acceptance rate at what top LAC?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:maybe because he can’t spell Varsity?
Or maybe because he did not pay consultants to write and proof his papers. Varsity Blues baby. All the scum are in the top universities now. Asians should boycott Harvard.
I don't agree with the rest of your post, but if nearly no Asians applied to Harvard, because of the way racial balance in admissions works, the Asian acceptance rate would shoot sky high, the way it is at some top LACs.
There are top LACs where the % of asians is below the general population, rendering them URMs. Look at the common data sets of them and find out which ones. You will get a benefit especially if ED.
What are these rates please and where. You are the one posting this. What is the data?
So you want me to do your homework for you?
Washington & Lee is one example, where it is only 3.7%
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/washington-and-lee-university/student-life/diversity/chart-ethnic-diversity.html
Next time ask nicely instead of tacitly accusing it is untrue and I'll help you with more. For now, though, you are on your own.
Call me crazy - but if this kid is such a genius - why did he not game this system and apply to washington and lee. Would he not have good chance of getting an acceptance?
W&L and other SLAC/LACs are not strong in STEM which is likely what this kid was targeting. If what you propose was a real strategy, W&L would be flooded with TJ kids and it is not. There are no "hidden secrets" in college admissions. Any arbitrage that one identifies is gone within a single admissions cycle.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 14:23
Subject: Rest In Peace Meritocracy
Anonymous wrote:I don't agree that there are a million other kids with 800 Math SAT and 800 Physics Subject test. College is about academics. Or it should be. And he should have gotten into one of these schools. There are not that many more qualified applicants. The college have chosen to make bullshit excuses for some other agenda to select less qualified kids. I don't even know what that agenda is. But come on people, college IS about the ability to score 800 on a Physics test!!!Yes, there are some discrepancies they have to sort out being different grades and should put a little weight on recommendations or ECs but only when comparing kids in the same bucket. I have no dog in this fight. My kids at 1250 and 1450 -- not Ivy. But people actually think this is fair -- I don't get it. Maybe he worked to get so smart or maybe he was born that way ---- doesn't even matter to me. This isn't a job interview. It is selection into an academic program - why should it be based on this. I am disgusted but wish him well.
It doesn't have to be "fair" - Ivy seats are a limited private resource that the schools can distribute as they see fit. There's no minimum benchmark to clear and after that everyone gets a cookie. Even in my TJ graduating class 20 years ago, there were no "unhooked" Ivy acceptances, be they legacies, recruited athletes, first gen college, or URM. That was one of the first years that elite schools started posting sub-10% admissions rates (I believe Princeton, from which I was rejected with a 1560, 4.1, varsity sport captain, etc. etc. posted 8% my year).
Anonymous
04/08/2021 14:21
Subject: Rest In Peace Meritocracy
Two reasonable admits and a bunch of longshots. It was a dumb list. Doesn’t mean the country’s sky is falling. Pearl-clutching thread.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 14:20
Subject: Re:Rest In Peace Meritocracy
I don't agree that there are a million other kids with 800 Math SAT and 800 Physics Subject test. College is about academics. Or it should be. And he should have gotten into one of these schools. There are not that many more qualified applicants. The college have chosen to make bullshit excuses for some other agenda to select less qualified kids. I don't even know what that agenda is. But come on people, college IS about the ability to score 800 on a Physics test!!!Yes, there are some discrepancies they have to sort out being different grades and should put a little weight on recommendations or ECs but only when comparing kids in the same bucket. I have no dog in this fight. My kids at 1250 and 1450 -- not Ivy. But people actually think this is fair -- I don't get it. Maybe he worked to get so smart or maybe he was born that way ---- doesn't even matter to me. This isn't a job interview. It is selection into an academic program - why should it be based on this. I am disgusted but wish him well.
+100
Anonymous
04/08/2021 14:13
Subject: Rest In Peace Meritocracy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He applied to schools with single-digit acceptance rates. Those schools have thousands of flawless applications.
No one is owed an acceptance in a competitive admissions process.
Seriously, there are a million reasons he didn't get into those 10 schools, ranging from just bad luck to writing terrible essays to geographic preference to letting the entitled attitude show through to anything in between.
And this video sure ain't going to help his cause.
+1. For as much time as people spend on these college forums, when will they understand that admission is about more than stats. The tips schools could fill their classes with perfect stats kids several times over? Thanks It’s a lottery among high stats and people with unique accomplishments once the sports and legacy spots are filled.
+2 HYPS admissions are a crapshoot for everyone, and at a certain point it's functionally a lottery. But also, the balancing goes in numerous directions. If Charlie had been exactly the same kid, but coming from North Dakota instead of Maryland, he probably would have been admitted. What if he'd still been from Maryland but something else was subtly different? It might have tipped the scales, which just goes to show that NO ONE should build a list based solely on schools that admit fewer than 5% of the applicants.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 14:08
Subject: Rest In Peace Meritocracy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what is the asian acceptance rate at what top LAC?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:maybe because he can’t spell Varsity?
Or maybe because he did not pay consultants to write and proof his papers. Varsity Blues baby. All the scum are in the top universities now. Asians should boycott Harvard.
I don't agree with the rest of your post, but if nearly no Asians applied to Harvard, because of the way racial balance in admissions works, the Asian acceptance rate would shoot sky high, the way it is at some top LACs.
There are top LACs where the % of asians is below the general population, rendering them URMs. Look at the common data sets of them and find out which ones. You will get a benefit especially if ED.
What are these rates please and where. You are the one posting this. What is the data?
So you want me to do your homework for you?
Washington & Lee is one example, where it is only 3.7%
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/washington-and-lee-university/student-life/diversity/chart-ethnic-diversity.html
Next time ask nicely instead of tacitly accusing it is untrue and I'll help you with more. For now, though, you are on your own.
Call me crazy - but if this kid is such a genius - why did he not game this system and apply to washington and lee. Would he not have good chance of getting an acceptance?
Anonymous
04/08/2021 14:03
Subject: Rest In Peace Meritocracy
15 percent score 800 on the Physic SAT subject test. If 57,000 kids take it - that is 8500 getting that score.
Anonymous
04/08/2021 13:57
Subject: Rest In Peace Meritocracy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what is the asian acceptance rate at what top LAC?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:maybe because he can’t spell Varsity?
Or maybe because he did not pay consultants to write and proof his papers. Varsity Blues baby. All the scum are in the top universities now. Asians should boycott Harvard.
I don't agree with the rest of your post, but if nearly no Asians applied to Harvard, because of the way racial balance in admissions works, the Asian acceptance rate would shoot sky high, the way it is at some top LACs.
There are top LACs where the % of asians is below the general population, rendering them URMs. Look at the common data sets of them and find out which ones. You will get a benefit especially if ED.
What are these rates please and where. You are the one posting this. What is the data?
So you want me to do your homework for you?
Washington & Lee is one example, where it is only 3.7%
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/washington-and-lee-university/student-life/diversity/chart-ethnic-diversity.html
Next time ask nicely instead of tacitly accusing it is untrue and I'll help you with more. For now, though, you are on your own.