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Anonymous wrote:CCL blows. traveling 2-3 hrs for a non-competitive match sucks. Who the f wants to go to Roanoke. Pretty sure they aren't known for quality soccer.

You are a provincial moron and your kid is getting the game he deserves even if he did not get the parents he deserved. Don’t go if you don’t like it. Your priors will limit your ability to enjoy new environments. Don’t limit your kids in the same way.

Yes, you should sacrifice your child’s experiences and enjoyment so that other people should benefit. How selfish of you. Time to start putting the Roanoke kids needs ahead of your kid. That’s why you do youth sports.

So true.

I do NOT understand these dipsh*ts that just love to drive hours for games. I grew up in travel and my parents (and my dad was a travel soccer coach for 20 years) about having to drive to Mt St Mary's to blow someone out 11-0. The hours in a car for a kiddie match are useless. Completely useless. I say that as a family that had 3 D1 soccer full scholarships and one pro player.

Idiots wear the length they travel for a 60-90 min soccer match with pre-pubescent kids like a badge of honor. All the while driving right on by Clubs that would offer better competition in a 30 min drive.

You do not need to sign on to a team that plays in a league that travels farther than you wish to drive. There are lots of teams with lots of league options. If you freely sign onto CCL knowingly and you you know you have to drive to VA Beach that is on you and you alone.

NP with advice to parents in the thick of it from one who has been through this. The PP is correct. It's not worth giving up your family time and sitting of hours at a time in the car unless you really, really want your kid to play soccer in many different locations. There is plenty of competition locally that will take up far less of your time. The reality is that 1-2 hour each way drives for non-competitive matches and the meals out that these trips involve are more likely to undermine a healthy active life style than to create one.

Nobody is making you do any of it.

No one is saying that. I'm urging parents to think about whether the driving is really necessary. because having been through this with several kids, I don't think it is. What soccer purpose is served by this travel? Why not join a club that plays in EDP and has all levels of teams with promotion and relegation to keep things competitive?

I'll consider that when I'm driving my kid to their first of three EDP games north of Baltimore this season

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Anonymous wrote:CCL blows. traveling 2-3 hrs for a non-competitive match sucks. Who the f wants to go to Roanoke. Pretty sure they aren't known for quality soccer.

You are a provincial moron and your kid is getting the game he deserves even if he did not get the parents he deserved. Don’t go if you don’t like it. Your priors will limit your ability to enjoy new environments. Don’t limit your kids in the same way.

Yes, you should sacrifice your child’s experiences and enjoyment so that other people should benefit. How selfish of you. Time to start putting the Roanoke kids needs ahead of your kid. That’s why you do youth sports.

So true.

I do NOT understand these dipsh*ts that just love to drive hours for games. I grew up in travel and my parents (and my dad was a travel soccer coach for 20 years) about having to drive to Mt St Mary's to blow someone out 11-0. The hours in a car for a kiddie match are useless. Completely useless. I say that as a family that had 3 D1 soccer full scholarships and one pro player.

Idiots wear the length they travel for a 60-90 min soccer match with pre-pubescent kids like a badge of honor. All the while driving right on by Clubs that would offer better competition in a 30 min drive.

You do not need to sign on to a team that plays in a league that travels farther than you wish to drive. There are lots of teams with lots of league options. If you freely sign onto CCL knowingly and you you know you have to drive to VA Beach that is on you and you alone.

NP with advice to parents in the thick of it from one who has been through this. The PP is correct. It's not worth giving up your family time and sitting of hours at a time in the car unless you really, really want your kid to play soccer in many different locations. There is plenty of competition locally that will take up far less of your time. The reality is that 1-2 hour each way drives for non-competitive matches and the meals out that these trips involve are more likely to undermine a healthy active life style than to create one.

Nobody is making you do any of it.

No one is saying that. I'm urging parents to think about whether the driving is really necessary. because having been through this with several kids, I don't think it is. What soccer purpose is served by this travel? Why not join a club that plays in EDP and has all levels of teams with promotion and relegation to keep things competitive?

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Anonymous wrote:CCL blows. traveling 2-3 hrs for a non-competitive match sucks. Who the f wants to go to Roanoke. Pretty sure they aren't known for quality soccer.

You are a provincial moron and your kid is getting the game he deserves even if he did not get the parents he deserved. Don’t go if you don’t like it. Your priors will limit your ability to enjoy new environments. Don’t limit your kids in the same way.

Yes, you should sacrifice your child’s experiences and enjoyment so that other people should benefit. How selfish of you. Time to start putting the Roanoke kids needs ahead of your kid. That’s why you do youth sports.

So true.

I do NOT understand these dipsh*ts that just love to drive hours for games. I grew up in travel and my parents (and my dad was a travel soccer coach for 20 years) about having to drive to Mt St Mary's to blow someone out 11-0. The hours in a car for a kiddie match are useless. Completely useless. I say that as a family that had 3 D1 soccer full scholarships and one pro player.

Idiots wear the length they travel for a 60-90 min soccer match with pre-pubescent kids like a badge of honor. All the while driving right on by Clubs that would offer better competition in a 30 min drive.

You do not need to sign on to a team that plays in a league that travels farther than you wish to drive. There are lots of teams with lots of league options. If you freely sign onto CCL knowingly and you you know you have to drive to VA Beach that is on you and you alone.

NP with advice to parents in the thick of it from one who has been through this. The PP is correct. It's not worth giving up your family time and sitting of hours at a time in the car unless you really, really want your kid to play soccer in many different locations. There is plenty of competition locally that will take up far less of your time. The reality is that 1-2 hour each way drives for non-competitive matches and the meals out that these trips involve are more likely to undermine a healthy active life style than to create one.

Nobody is making you do any of it.

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Anonymous wrote:CCL blows. traveling 2-3 hrs for a non-competitive match sucks. Who the f wants to go to Roanoke. Pretty sure they aren't known for quality soccer.

You are a provincial moron and your kid is getting the game he deserves even if he did not get the parents he deserved. Don’t go if you don’t like it. Your priors will limit your ability to enjoy new environments. Don’t limit your kids in the same way.

Yes, you should sacrifice your child’s experiences and enjoyment so that other people should benefit. How selfish of you. Time to start putting the Roanoke kids needs ahead of your kid. That’s why you do youth sports.

So true.

I do NOT understand these dipsh*ts that just love to drive hours for games. I grew up in travel and my parents (and my dad was a travel soccer coach for 20 years) about having to drive to Mt St Mary's to blow someone out 11-0. The hours in a car for a kiddie match are useless. Completely useless. I say that as a family that had 3 D1 soccer full scholarships and one pro player.

Idiots wear the length they travel for a 60-90 min soccer match with pre-pubescent kids like a badge of honor. All the while driving right on by Clubs that would offer better competition in a 30 min drive.

I don't think anybody loves to drive to games, nor have I ever met anyone who wears the duration of the journey like a badge of honor. Most parents groan as a long drive weekend approaches and plenty just ship their kid in someone else's car. They drive those distances because they don't have a choice if they want that level of competition and the better coaches. That's the way the leagues are structured - it's not the fault of the kids or the parents.

And the drive times for kiddie matches are not usually that bad. Sure you might have to drive to VA Beach one weekend a year - but just make a weekend of it and go to the beach. The more regular longer drives usually kick in around the time puberty starts. And unfortunately that's when the kids start to need better competition - and NCSL does NOT provide it.

I think we all wish that all the clubs would just enter their teams into a national league pyramid which allows for promotion and relegation so that every team would find its level and all the teams at any particular level in a geographic area would end up in the same league. Sadly that does not exist. So if my DC is good enough to play for one of the top teams the area then she plays in that league and drives where the league tells her.

Playing NCSL is, sadly, not an option because the level is hugely different.

So, are you recommending rec? Every other league has travel

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Anonymous wrote:CCL blows. traveling 2-3 hrs for a non-competitive match sucks. Who the f wants to go to Roanoke. Pretty sure they aren't known for quality soccer.

You are a provincial moron and your kid is getting the game he deserves even if he did not get the parents he deserved. Don’t go if you don’t like it. Your priors will limit your ability to enjoy new environments. Don’t limit your kids in the same way.

Yes, you should sacrifice your child’s experiences and enjoyment so that other people should benefit. How selfish of you. Time to start putting the Roanoke kids needs ahead of your kid. That’s why you do youth sports.

So true.

I do NOT understand these dipsh*ts that just love to drive hours for games. I grew up in travel and my parents (and my dad was a travel soccer coach for 20 years) about having to drive to Mt St Mary's to blow someone out 11-0. The hours in a car for a kiddie match are useless. Completely useless. I say that as a family that had 3 D1 soccer full scholarships and one pro player.

Idiots wear the length they travel for a 60-90 min soccer match with pre-pubescent kids like a badge of honor. All the while driving right on by Clubs that would offer better competition in a 30 min drive.

You do not need to sign on to a team that plays in a league that travels farther than you wish to drive. There are lots of teams with lots of league options. If you freely sign onto CCL knowingly and you you know you have to drive to VA Beach that is on you and you alone.

NP with advice to parents in the thick of it from one who has been through this. The PP is correct. It's not worth giving up your family time and sitting of hours at a time in the car unless you really, really want your kid to play soccer in many different locations. There is plenty of competition locally that will take up far less of your time. The reality is that 1-2 hour each way drives for non-competitive matches and the meals out that these trips involve are more likely to undermine a healthy active life style than to create one.

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Anonymous wrote:I would be so thrilled if CCL North folded and NCSL (and EDP) were left standing below ECNL and MLS Next.

You should be. CCL is a money making scam.

NCSL and EDP are the best leagues after ECNL/GA/MLS

NCSL is not a good league.

Overall no but there are a few NCSL D-1 boys u14 and u15 teams that can consistently beat the local ECNL teams.

No there aren't. There are zero NCSL teams which can consistently beat any ECNL teams. There are one or two teams per age group which are on a par with the worst ECNL teams and which would win some games against them, and lose others. They don't even belong on the same field as the better ECNL teams.

!00% both BAC and PAC from NCSL could beat the BRYC u14 b ecnl easily, Also the u14 Team America would beat them too. No doubts.

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Anonymous wrote:CCL blows. traveling 2-3 hrs for a non-competitive match sucks. Who the f wants to go to Roanoke. Pretty sure they aren't known for quality soccer.

You are a provincial moron and your kid is getting the game he deserves even if he did not get the parents he deserved. Don’t go if you don’t like it. Your priors will limit your ability to enjoy new environments. Don’t limit your kids in the same way.

Yes, you should sacrifice your child’s experiences and enjoyment so that other people should benefit. How selfish of you. Time to start putting the Roanoke kids needs ahead of your kid. That’s why you do youth sports.

So true.

I do NOT understand these dipsh*ts that just love to drive hours for games. I grew up in travel and my parents (and my dad was a travel soccer coach for 20 years) about having to drive to Mt St Mary's to blow someone out 11-0. The hours in a car for a kiddie match are useless. Completely useless. I say that as a family that had 3 D1 soccer full scholarships and one pro player.

Idiots wear the length they travel for a 60-90 min soccer match with pre-pubescent kids like a badge of honor. All the while driving right on by Clubs that would offer better competition in a 30 min drive.

You do not need to sign on to a team that plays in a league that travels farther than you wish to drive. There are lots of teams with lots of league options. If you freely sign onto CCL knowingly and you you know you have to drive to VA Beach that is on you and you alone.

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Anonymous wrote:I would be so thrilled if CCL North folded and NCSL (and EDP) were left standing below ECNL and MLS Next.

You should be. CCL is a money making scam.

NCSL and EDP are the best leagues after ECNL/GA/MLS

NCSL is not a good league.

Overall no but there are a few NCSL D-1 boys u14 and u15 teams that can consistently beat the local ECNL teams.

No there aren't. There are zero NCSL teams which can consistently beat any ECNL teams. There are one or two teams per age group which are on a par with the worst ECNL teams and which would win some games against them, and lose others. They don't even belong on the same field as the better ECNL teams.

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Anonymous wrote:CCL blows. traveling 2-3 hrs for a non-competitive match sucks. Who the f wants to go to Roanoke. Pretty sure they aren't known for quality soccer.

You are a provincial moron and your kid is getting the game he deserves even if he did not get the parents he deserved. Don’t go if you don’t like it. Your priors will limit your ability to enjoy new environments. Don’t limit your kids in the same way.

Yes, you should sacrifice your child’s experiences and enjoyment so that other people should benefit. How selfish of you. Time to start putting the Roanoke kids needs ahead of your kid. That’s why you do youth sports.

So true.

I do NOT understand these dipsh*ts that just love to drive hours for games. I grew up in travel and my parents (and my dad was a travel soccer coach for 20 years) about having to drive to Mt St Mary's to blow someone out 11-0. The hours in a car for a kiddie match are useless. Completely useless. I say that as a family that had 3 D1 soccer full scholarships and one pro player.

Idiots wear the length they travel for a 60-90 min soccer match with pre-pubescent kids like a badge of honor. All the while driving right on by Clubs that would offer better competition in a 30 min drive.

without the word full, this would be a lot more believable

Anonymous wrote:I've been a manager for over a decade and honestly, NCSL is by far the best league in terms of scheduling, etc.

CCL is the worst.

EDP is more of a pain because of the scheduling, but it's in the middle.

Wouldn't be sad to see CCL go by the wayside.

Five years as a manager for me and I agree 100%

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Anonymous wrote:I would be so thrilled if CCL North folded and NCSL (and EDP) were left standing below ECNL and MLS Next.

You should be. CCL is a money making scam.

NCSL and EDP are the best leagues after ECNL/GA/MLS

NCSL is not a good league.

Overall no but there are a few NCSL D-1 boys u14 and u15 teams that can consistently beat the local ECNL teams.

Let’s not forget 90%+ of current ECNL rosters in the are probably comprise kids who first were playing NCSL. NCSL is not a good league is a dumb statement.

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Anonymous wrote:CCL blows. traveling 2-3 hrs for a non-competitive match sucks. Who the f wants to go to Roanoke. Pretty sure they aren't known for quality soccer.

You are a provincial moron and your kid is getting the game he deserves even if he did not get the parents he deserved. Don’t go if you don’t like it. Your priors will limit your ability to enjoy new environments. Don’t limit your kids in the same way.

Herein lies the reason that travel/Club soccer has gone so far off the rails. Sitting in traffic down I-95 for hours to get out and play 60 min (maybe only 30 depending on roster size) is so great for 'new' environments.

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Anonymous wrote:CCL blows. traveling 2-3 hrs for a non-competitive match sucks. Who the f wants to go to Roanoke. Pretty sure they aren't known for quality soccer.

You are a provincial moron and your kid is getting the game he deserves even if he did not get the parents he deserved. Don’t go if you don’t like it. Your priors will limit your ability to enjoy new environments. Don’t limit your kids in the same way.

Yes, you should sacrifice your child’s experiences and enjoyment so that other people should benefit. How selfish of you. Time to start putting the Roanoke kids needs ahead of your kid. That’s why you do youth sports.

So true.

I do NOT understand these dipsh*ts that just love to drive hours for games. I grew up in travel and my parents (and my dad was a travel soccer coach for 20 years) about having to drive to Mt St Mary's to blow someone out 11-0. The hours in a car for a kiddie match are useless. Completely useless. I say that as a family that had 3 D1 soccer full scholarships and one pro player.

Idiots wear the length they travel for a 60-90 min soccer match with pre-pubescent kids like a badge of honor. All the while driving right on by Clubs that would offer better competition in a 30 min drive.

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Anonymous wrote:CCL blows. traveling 2-3 hrs for a non-competitive match sucks. Who the f wants to go to Roanoke. Pretty sure they aren't known for quality soccer.

You are a provincial moron and your kid is getting the game he deserves even if he did not get the parents he deserved. Don’t go if you don’t like it. Your priors will limit your ability to enjoy new environments. Don’t limit your kids in the same way.

Yes, you should sacrifice your child’s experiences and enjoyment so that other people should benefit. How selfish of you. Time to start putting the Roanoke kids needs ahead of your kid. That’s why you do youth sports.