I think fencing is hardest

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Anonymous wrote:Basketball and football are the only sports to give full rides for everyone on the roster.

Every other sports get a handful and spread the wealth amongst the team in the form of partial. So consider spending tons of money on your kid and unless DC is absolute beast, the odds of getting full ride are not that great outside of those 2 sports.

Basketball and football do not give full rides to everyone on the roster. For basketball, teams have 13 scholarships (not all of which are always awarded) and will dress 13 players on game day. But, some scholarship kids will redshirt and kids will be injured. The difference is made up of walk ons -- non scholarship players. There are many more athletes involved in fielding an NCAA team than the number of scholarship players. Teams will have a practice squad that will learn the plays of opponents and scrimmage against the rotation players in practice. Walk ons will sometimes move between those groups.

Football is a full ride unless you decide to be a walk-on for D1 - look at the rules! Basketball for men is a full ride unless you decide to be a walk-on. Look at the rules.

Not entirely true. These sports can give partial scholarships, but it still counts as a full “head” thus, not freeing up any space for more athletes to share the scholarship so to speak.

Plus there are D1 schools like ivies that don’t give any scholarships.

Ivies are not D1.

Lolz. I love reading nonsense on this forum

I know. Yale has won the D1 Men’s hockey and Lacrosse titles recently.

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Anonymous wrote:Basketball and football are the only sports to give full rides for everyone on the roster.

Every other sports get a handful and spread the wealth amongst the team in the form of partial. So consider spending tons of money on your kid and unless DC is absolute beast, the odds of getting full ride are not that great outside of those 2 sports.

Basketball and football do not give full rides to everyone on the roster. For basketball, teams have 13 scholarships (not all of which are always awarded) and will dress 13 players on game day. But, some scholarship kids will redshirt and kids will be injured. The difference is made up of walk ons -- non scholarship players. There are many more athletes involved in fielding an NCAA team than the number of scholarship players. Teams will have a practice squad that will learn the plays of opponents and scrimmage against the rotation players in practice. Walk ons will sometimes move between those groups.

Football is a full ride unless you decide to be a walk-on for D1 - look at the rules! Basketball for men is a full ride unless you decide to be a walk-on. Look at the rules.

Not entirely true. These sports can give partial scholarships, but it still counts as a full “head” thus, not freeing up any space for more athletes to share the scholarship so to speak.

Plus there are D1 schools like ivies that don’t give any scholarships.

Ivies are not D1.

Lolz. I love reading nonsense on this forum

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Anonymous wrote:Basketball and football are the only sports to give full rides for everyone on the roster.

Every other sports get a handful and spread the wealth amongst the team in the form of partial. So consider spending tons of money on your kid and unless DC is absolute beast, the odds of getting full ride are not that great outside of those 2 sports.

Basketball and football do not give full rides to everyone on the roster. For basketball, teams have 13 scholarships (not all of which are always awarded) and will dress 13 players on game day. But, some scholarship kids will redshirt and kids will be injured. The difference is made up of walk ons -- non scholarship players. There are many more athletes involved in fielding an NCAA team than the number of scholarship players. Teams will have a practice squad that will learn the plays of opponents and scrimmage against the rotation players in practice. Walk ons will sometimes move between those groups.

Football is a full ride unless you decide to be a walk-on for D1 - look at the rules! Basketball for men is a full ride unless you decide to be a walk-on. Look at the rules.

Not entirely true. These sports can give partial scholarships, but it still counts as a full “head” thus, not freeing up any space for more athletes to share the scholarship so to speak.

Plus there are D1 schools like ivies that don’t give any scholarships.

Ivies are not D1.

You should inform the NCAA and the ivy league, because both of those organizations are under the impression that ivies are D1

https://www.ncaa.org/our-division-i-members

https://ivyleague.com/sports/2017/8/13/HISTORY_0813173057.aspx

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Anonymous wrote:Basketball and football are the only sports to give full rides for everyone on the roster.

Every other sports get a handful and spread the wealth amongst the team in the form of partial. So consider spending tons of money on your kid and unless DC is absolute beast, the odds of getting full ride are not that great outside of those 2 sports.

Basketball and football do not give full rides to everyone on the roster. For basketball, teams have 13 scholarships (not all of which are always awarded) and will dress 13 players on game day. But, some scholarship kids will redshirt and kids will be injured. The difference is made up of walk ons -- non scholarship players. There are many more athletes involved in fielding an NCAA team than the number of scholarship players. Teams will have a practice squad that will learn the plays of opponents and scrimmage against the rotation players in practice. Walk ons will sometimes move between those groups.

Football is a full ride unless you decide to be a walk-on for D1 - look at the rules! Basketball for men is a full ride unless you decide to be a walk-on. Look at the rules.

Not entirely true. These sports can give partial scholarships, but it still counts as a full “head” thus, not freeing up any space for more athletes to share the scholarship so to speak.

Plus there are D1 schools like ivies that don’t give any scholarships.

Ivies are not D1.

Anonymous wrote:Fencing is one of the easier ones to leverage into scholarship money or to admission into a great educational institution.

Cornhole is one of the most difficult from which to obtain any scholarship money. That and the bass fishing teams.

This is the truth

Fencing is one of the easier ones to leverage into scholarship money or to admission into a great educational institution.

Cornhole is one of the most difficult from which to obtain any scholarship money. That and the bass fishing teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Basketball and football are the only sports to give full rides for everyone on the roster.

Every other sports get a handful and spread the wealth amongst the team in the form of partial. So consider spending tons of money on your kid and unless DC is absolute beast, the odds of getting full ride are not that great outside of those 2 sports.

Basketball and football do not give full rides to everyone on the roster. For basketball, teams have 13 scholarships (not all of which are always awarded) and will dress 13 players on game day. But, some scholarship kids will redshirt and kids will be injured. The difference is made up of walk ons -- non scholarship players. There are many more athletes involved in fielding an NCAA team than the number of scholarship players. Teams will have a practice squad that will learn the plays of opponents and scrimmage against the rotation players in practice. Walk ons will sometimes move between those groups.

Football is a full ride unless you decide to be a walk-on for D1 - look at the rules! Basketball for men is a full ride unless you decide to be a walk-on. Look at the rules.

Not entirely true. These sports can give partial scholarships, but it still counts as a full “head” thus, not freeing up any space for more athletes to share the scholarship so to speak.

Plus there are D1 schools like ivies that don’t give any scholarships.

Mens tennis and volleyball are lowest odds for a high school player to compete at the D1 level. 174:1 odds and 172:1 odds respectively

It will greatly depend on the school as different schools will have different scholarship budgets for different teams. The NCAA has max numbers per sport and in certain sports the scholarships must by full rides while in others the scholarships can be divided up. The numbers are different for D2 schools.

Full ride requirements are in football (85) though most big programs will carry about 100, men’s basketball (13). Women’s basketball (15), women’s volleyball (12), women’s gymnastics (8), and women’s tennis (12). These are head count sports. A school does not have to offer these numbers, but the offers they make in these sports are full scholarships.

In terms of numbers - likely Track and Field, which is combined with x-country, is the toughest. A full funded program (and basically no programs are fully funded) could have 12.6 for men and 18 for women. There are certainly cross-overs between x-country and long distance track runners, but it would not be surprising to see a track program dividing up 5 or 6 scholarships over 40-50 athletes.

There certainly are sports that might divide up 1 scholarship among 25 athletes.

The real cost to an athletic department is in program hard costs. Swimming is in the cross-hairs now. Maintaining pools is expensive. Track and field is expensive because of the travel costs for big teams.

Anonymous wrote:Diving is hard since many top teams have two divers and they compete four years so some have one scholarship every other year

Right but you also have to compare how many athletes are competing for each scholarship. There are many more soccer players than divers.

Diving is hard since many top teams have two divers and they compete four years so some have one scholarship every other year

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Anonymous wrote:Women’s gymnastics

Nearly impossible to get a scholarship

Yes and women’s gymnastics is especially strange because it’s the one sport where you peak before so the scholarships are going to girls who have world championship and Olympic experience.

Anonymous wrote:Men's tennis - fewer programs, and generally the scholarships available are split amongst the team. Most teams recruit European and South American players that are good enough to play in lower level pro tournaments but not quite ready to make the step to the biggest tournaments where you really make money. They still have college eligibility because the money they made from the smaller tournaments was offset by traveling and coaching expenses.

What does this get the colleges that recruit these athletes?

Seems like these people are way more likely to leave early to pursue a professional career. I must be wrong about tis, but it seems like the value of having strong tennis/golf/squash programs (and scholarships for the athletes) is really to build a network of high-income high value alum. No one is choosing to go to School X because of their competitive tennis program (unlike football or basketball, which give the school a lot of publicity)

Anonymous wrote:Tennis. For men.

I would think men's swimming would be tough too. My DS is a college swimmer and I believe they get the equivalent of one scholarship.